== Meeting information ==
 * #xubuntu-devel: Xubuntu Community Meeting, 23 Feb at 23:01 — 23:49 UTC
 * Full logs at [[http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2018/xubuntu-devel.2018-02-23-23.01.log.html]]



== Meeting summary ==

=== Open action items ===
The discussion about "Open action items" started at 23:05.

  * ''DONE:'' bluesabre and ochosi to get on with it and include xfpm 1.6
  * postponed for bionic+1: bluesabre to reach out to pidgin devs regarding system themes
  * ''DONE:'' flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post

=== Updates and Announcements ===
The discussion about "Updates and Announcements" started at 23:07.

  * Xubuntu Wallpaper Contest Open
  * ''LINK:'' https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/ 
  * Xubuntu 18.04 Default Wallpaper Uploaded
  * ''LINK:'' https://contest.xubuntu.org/wallpaper_contest/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/?action=view 
  * lots of package updates since the beginning of bionic, a few recent ones: greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.6, xubuntu-icon-theme 18.04.1, catfish 1.4.4, lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.4, menulibre 2.1.5, xfce4-notifyd 0.4.1, xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1
  * March 1: Feature Freeze, Debian Import Freeze
  * March 8: Beta 1

=== Discussion ===
The discussion about "Discussion" started at 23:17.

 * '''Blueprints''' (23:19)
  * ''LINK:'' https://dev.xubuntu.org/ 
 * '''16.04.4 / Beta 1 18.04''' (23:24)
 * '''numlockx''' (23:26)
  * ''LINK:'' http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/ 
 * '''Testing''' (23:33)
  * ''ACTION:'' flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost

=== Schedule next meeting ===
The discussion about "Schedule next meeting" started at 23:48.

  * knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it



== Vote results ==




== Action items, by person ==

 * bluesabre
  * flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost
 * flocculant
  * flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost



== Done items ==

 * bluesabre and ochosi to get on with it and include xfpm 1.6
 * flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post



== People present (lines said) ==

 * bluesabre (88)
 * flocculant (53)
 * pleia2 (9)
 * meetingology (7)
 * slickymaster (6)
 * Unit193 (5)
 * ubottu (4)
 * genii (2)



== Full Log ==


 23:01 <bluesabre> #startmeeting Xubuntu Community Meeting

 23:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Feb 23 23:01:39 2018 UTC.  The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.

 23:01 <meetingology> 

 23:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick

 23:01 <bluesabre> !team | Meeeeeeting time :)

 23:01 <ubottu> Meeeeeeting time :): team is akxwi-dave, bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster and Unit193

 23:02 <bluesabre> Who's around?

 23:02 <pleia2> o/

 23:02 <flocculant> yup

 23:02 <bluesabre> yay

 23:02 <slickymaster> o/

 23:02 <bluesabre> :D

 23:03 <bluesabre> We'll let the others roll in for a few

 23:03 <flocculant> hopeful then :p

 23:03 <bluesabre> I try to be

 23:03 <flocculant> I used to be like that

 23:04 <slickymaster> lol

 23:04 <bluesabre> That and I was wrapping up dinner

 23:05 <flocculant> ha ha

 23:05 <bluesabre> Now we'll start

 23:05 <bluesabre> #topic Open action items

 23:05 <slickymaster> that almost sounded as if you made a burrito out of your dinner bluesabre

 23:05 <bluesabre> slickymaster: not a bad idea

 23:05 <bluesabre> #done bluesabre and ochosi to get on with it and include xfpm 1.6

 23:05 <bluesabre> (thanks Unit193)

 23:06 <flocculant> :)

 23:06 <bluesabre> #info postponed for bionic+1: bluesabre to reach out to pidgin devs regarding system themes

 23:07 <bluesabre> Fairly certain that

 23:07 <bluesabre> #done flocculant to mail list(s) re 17.04 EOL and draft blog post

 23:07 <bluesabre> happened

 23:07 <flocculant> ye

 23:07 <bluesabre> #topic Updates and Announcements

 23:07 <bluesabre> #info Xubuntu Wallpaper Contest Open

 23:08 <pleia2> #link https://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/

 23:08 <bluesabre> nice

 23:08 <bluesabre> #info Xubuntu 18.04 Default Wallpaper Uploaded

 23:08 <bluesabre> (looks fancy)

 23:08 <pleia2> need some submissions that aren't flowers :)

 23:08 <bluesabre> Or more flowers

 23:08 <bluesabre> and rocks

 23:08 <bluesabre> (ochosi)

 23:09 <genii> Are most of them photos so far?

 23:09 <pleia2> yeah

 23:09 <pleia2> (submissions are public)

 23:09 <bluesabre> https://contest.xubuntu.org/wallpaper_contest/xubuntu-18-04-community-wallpaper-contest/?action=view

 23:09 <flocculant> thought the rock one was the same as one from that site he liked last time

 23:09 <bluesabre> not sure

 23:10 <pleia2> there was a request on social media for more original art ones, not just photos

 23:10 <genii> I tried to do a watercolour thing in Gimp but it looks more like a blurry ball of rainbows

 23:11 <Unit193> Tell them we'd gladly accept such contribution?

 23:12 <pleia2> Unit193: "patches welcome" is not as friendly as you think it is ;)

 23:12 <bluesabre> #info lots of package updates since the beginning of bionic, a few recent ones: greybird-gtk-theme 3.22.6, xubuntu-icon-theme 18.04.1, catfish 1.4.4, lightdm-gtk-greeter 2.0.4, menulibre 2.1.5, xfce4-notifyd 0.4.1, xfce4-power-manager 1.6.1

 23:12 <bluesabre> pleia2: yes, every time I say that I don't get patches

 23:12 <bluesabre> :)

 23:12 <Unit193> That's because it's a polite brush off. :P

 23:12 <bluesabre> Woops

 23:13 <bluesabre> Any other updates/announcements?

 23:14 <bluesabre> Yes there are actually...

 23:14 <bluesabre> #info March 1: Feature Freeze, Debian Import Freeze

 23:15 <bluesabre> #info March 8: Beta 1

 23:15 <bluesabre> Pretty sure we are participating in that

 23:15 <flocculant> that's on my list of things to rabbit about

 23:15 <flocculant> as is 16.04.4

 23:15 <flocculant> next week ...

 23:16 <flocculant> which is why I'd not added them to the announcement bit :p

 23:16 <bluesabre> Good point

 23:16 <flocculant> :)

 23:17 <bluesabre> Let's hop on over to that then

 23:17 <bluesabre> #topic Discussion

 23:17 <bluesabre> (get it, hop?)

 23:17 <bluesabre> Sorry

 23:17 <flocculant> :)

 23:18 <bluesabre> Do we want to talk blueprints or general first?

 23:18 <flocculant> don't mind - depending on time - up at stupid o'clock tomorrow :(

 23:18 <bluesabre> :(

 23:19 <bluesabre> Blueprints first then, shouldn't take long

 23:19 <bluesabre> #subtopic Blueprints

 23:19 <bluesabre> https://dev.xubuntu.org/

 23:19 <bluesabre> We're looking a little rough this cycle

 23:19 * flocculant wanders off for a bit as no qa bp \o/

 23:20 <flocculant> bluesabre: looks much the same as it did for the last cycle ;)

 23:20 <bluesabre> But there's probably more done than it appears

 23:20 <bluesabre> In fact, there definitely are

 23:20 <bluesabre> I need to update a few things

 23:21 <bluesabre> So if everybody just wants to poke around and refresh your BPs so we can target release day a bit better... ;)

 23:22 <bluesabre> I realize now that's not really a good discussion item

 23:23 <flocculant> :D

 23:23 <bluesabre> flocculant: your turn to #subtopic and rabbit

 23:23 <bluesabre> #chair flocculant

 23:23 <meetingology> Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant

 23:23 <bluesabre> #chair pleia2

 23:23 <meetingology> Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant pleia2

 23:23 <bluesabre> #chair slickymaster

 23:23 <meetingology> Current chairs: bluesabre flocculant pleia2 slickymaster

 23:23 <flocculant> bluesabre: did you not want to libinput?

 23:23 <bluesabre> flocculant: decided it's not something to worry about for this cycle

 23:24 <flocculant> ok

 23:24 <bluesabre> we'll probably have to go for it on bionic+1 so I think they are removing -synaptics

 23:24 <flocculant> #subtopic 16.04.4 / Beta 1 18.04

 23:24 <flocculant> this is just forewarning everyone - with job I have now I can't guarantee marking for release

 23:25 <flocculant> also not got much time to be testing each and every version and the tests

 23:26 <flocculant> I suspect 16.04 is more or less just install smoketests

 23:26 <flocculant> #subtopic numlockx

 23:26 <flocculant> bug 1746556

 23:26 <ubottu> bug 1746556 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu needs a better num lock handler at login and during user session" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1746556

 23:27 <flocculant> someone else apparently gets annoyed at having to do this each time they install, so that's at least 2 of us ...

 23:27 <flocculant> thoughts on adding that and setting up the lightdm doodah to have it at login?

 23:28 <bluesabre> That seems reasonable to me

 23:28 <slickymaster> +1

 23:28 <bluesabre> !info numlockx bionic

 23:28 <ubottu> numlockx (source: numlockx): enable NumLock in X11 sessions. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.2-7 (bionic), package size 8 kB, installed size 68 kB

 23:28 <bluesabre> That also seems agreeable

 23:28 <flocculant> though I tend to make my one a lot further on than 50-numlock.conf just in case :p

 23:29 <flocculant> yea not very big at all :p

 23:29 <bluesabre> flocculant: so you currently use this in your config?

 23:29 <flocculant> yup

 23:29 <bluesabre> neat

 23:29 <bluesabre> Sounds incredibly painless

 23:29 <flocculant> have done for years as it never works without

 23:29 <flocculant> yea - just a pita the first time :D

 23:31 <bluesabre> Will probably go ahead with that then, it seems like a value add and nothing more

 23:31 <bluesabre> thanks for bringing it up

 23:31 <flocculant> bluesabre: only time it went wrong was when lightdm changed and you needed the [Seat} bit

 23:31 <flocculant> no problem

 23:31 * flocculant is done then

 23:31 <bluesabre> Anybody else got discussion items?

 23:32 <flocculant> I'm - as always - concerned about the testing levels we 'apparently' get

 23:32 <bluesabre> Yeah

 23:33 <flocculant> but bored by the discussion now tbf - as is everyone else I expect

 23:33 <bluesabre> #link http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/

 23:33 <flocculant> #subtopic Testing

 23:33 <flocculant> then

 23:33 <bluesabre> to get some fresh views on that at least

 23:33 <bluesabre> :D

 23:33 <bluesabre> yay

 23:33 <Unit193> It's really just the install media though, I activly run Bionic.

 23:33 <flocculant> not sure what we can do about it though

 23:33 <flocculant> Unit193: I know :)

 23:34 <bluesabre> hi Unit193

 23:34 <flocculant> trouble is - unless someone actively tells us we have no idea at all

 23:34 <flocculant> and frankly someone could just go to the tracker on release day and mark it for release

 23:36 <flocculant> bluesabre: not sure we'll ever get fresh views from the few of us in a meeting

 23:36 <flocculant> because I'd have to assume we all want it done

 23:37 <Unit193> There's still that one guy that emails me about Core ISOs, but that's unofficial stuff still.

 23:37 <flocculant> yup

 23:37 <bluesabre> flocculant: let's plan for a call for testing and social media'ing everywhere

 23:37 <flocculant> I'm sure there are people out there - I see pings from the u+1 channel

 23:38 <flocculant> bluesabre: mmm

 23:38 <flocculant> bored doing those pointlessly as well

 23:40 <bluesabre> maybe a nice detailed blog post instead

 23:40 <bluesabre> happy to coordinate on that

 23:40 <flocculant> ok

 23:41 <bluesabre> pleia2, knome_: sound good to you?

 23:41 <pleia2> yep

 23:41 <flocculant> bluesabre: let me know when's good for you - but I need to afk now

 23:41 <bluesabre> #action flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost

 23:41 * meetingology flocculant and bluesabre to publish testing blogpost

 23:42 <bluesabre> flocculant: we can follow up when you're next available :)

 23:42 <bluesabre> thanks for hanging around for the meeting

 23:42 <flocculant> over weekend - later tomorrow, most of Sunday - evenings after 1900 utc

 23:43 <flocculant> no problem - night all :)

 23:43 <slickymaster> nighty night flocculant

 23:43 <bluesabre> anybody else got anything to discuss?

 23:43 <slickymaster> nothing here

 23:47 <bluesabre> pleia2 Unit193?

 23:47 <pleia2> nope, I'm good

 23:48 <Unit193> I hope not, but if there is I'll just give you repeated pokes.

 23:48 <bluesabre> Sounds... painful

 23:48 <bluesabre> #topic Schedule next meeting

 23:49 <bluesabre> !info knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it

 23:49 <ubottu> 'is' is not a valid distribution: artful, artful-backports, artful-proposed, bionic, bionic-backports, bionic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, stable, testing, trusty, trusty-backports, trusty-proposed, unstable, utopic, utopic-backports, utopic-proposed, vivid, vivid-backports, vivid-proposed, wily, wily-backports, wily-proposed, xenial, xenial-backports, xen

 23:49 <bluesabre> er

 23:49 <bluesabre> #info knome is next on the list, but if anybody wants to schedule one, go for it

 23:49 <bluesabre> #endmeeting



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