17:00 <pleia2> #startmeeting 17:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 3 17:00:03 2016 UTC. The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:00 <meetingology> 17:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:00 <flocculant> I'm apparently available for this :) 17:00 <pleia2> we have an angeda 17:00 <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings#Agenda 17:00 <pleia2> who all is here for our community team meeting? :) 17:01 <flocculant> I'm apparently available for this :) 17:01 <knome> slickymasterWork is on and off 17:01 <flocculant> :) 17:01 <knome> as always 17:01 <knome> and i'm here as well 17:01 * bluesabre is watching 17:01 <slickymasterWork> I'll doubt I'll be able to continue logged on 17:01 <Nairwolf> I'm here 17:01 <flocculant> hey bluesabre 17:01 <pleia2> great 17:01 <pleia2> #topic Open action items 17:01 <pleia2> looks like we have just the one: knome and branau to collaborate with setting up a wordpress instance for the wallpaper submissions by sunday, feb 21 17:02 <pleia2> knome: status update? 17:02 <knome> done 17:02 <pleia2> \o/ 17:02 <knome> we're running testing at the moment 17:02 <knome> after that's done, we can announce the contest 17:02 <knome> so next week 17:02 <pleia2> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2016-March/011059.html 17:02 <pleia2> ^^ if you want to be a guinea pig 17:02 <pleia2> I mean help 17:03 <dkessel> russian is first, surprisingly... never noticed any russian here.... 17:03 <pleia2> alright, moving on 17:03 <pleia2> #topic Updates and Announcements 17:04 <flocculant> sorry 17:04 <flocculant> just quickly 17:04 <flocculant> knome: if you do need testing - I can 17:04 <knome> flocculant, ack, i'll send you the testing info after the meeting 17:06 <pleia2> so, any updates/announcements? 17:07 <pleia2> #info Beta 1 happened http://xubuntu.org/news/xubuntu-16-04-lts-beta-1/ 17:07 <knome> #info knome has been working on the article series for the website: http://wiki.xubuntu.org/website/series 17:08 <knome> re: those, the plan is to publish the frist "my media manager" article on week 12 17:08 <knome> schedule for the other series is still open, it depends a lot on the amount of articles we have 17:08 <knome> if people have ideas, feel free to add them to the wiki 17:09 <pleia2> thanks knome 17:09 <knome> if people want to help with the articles, just poke me or edit the wiki page noting you are working on something 17:09 <Nairwolf> do you want to translate these articles ? 17:10 <knome> the website doesn't support translations currently, so to begin with, no 17:10 <knome> but if somebody works with local teams, they can totally cooperate with us to publish translated articles on their websites 17:11 <Nairwolf> I will do that, in France xubuntu is really popular 17:11 <flocculant> \o/ 17:11 <pleia2> alright, drifting off topic from announcements 17:12 <pleia2> any other updates? 17:13 <pleia2> #topic Discussion items 17:13 <pleia2> #subtopic The installer slideshow 17:14 <pleia2> Full info: The installer slideshow has been kept the same for some time now, other than a few small graphical changes and some rewording of the slides. Should we keep this type of approach or should we choose a completely different approach? 17:14 <knome> there is a WIP branch at https://code.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 17:14 <pleia2> I looked at it yesterday, pretty sparse so far but shaping up nicely 17:14 <knome> and commentary/discussion has been ongoing on this channel as well as at http://pad.ubuntu.com/xubuntu-1604-slideshow 17:14 <knome> so the "WIP" part means we still lack some artwork 17:14 <knome> and some of the content isn't final 17:14 <Nairwolf> I can't access to this pad, is it because I'm not in xubuntu team ? 17:15 <knome> and we might add one more slide that discusses the customizability 17:15 <flocculant> Nairwolf: go to offtopic 17:15 <flocculant> might? 17:15 <flocculant> I think that we should 17:16 <flocculant> given it'll be live for 3 years 17:16 <knome> the other option is to include the content in the desktop slide 17:16 <flocculant> oh 17:16 <flocculant> sorry :) 17:16 <knome> ...but so far, since we don't know what kind of content it is, it's impossible to make a judgement on whether it should have its own slide or not 17:16 <knome> so as always, ideas are welcome 17:17 <pleia2> knome: oh, explain how to download and run the slideshow? 17:17 <knome> yes 17:17 <flocculant> I'd like to see some more on *customise* to be honest 17:18 <knome> 1) bzr branch lp:~xubuntu-doc/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/xubuntu-1604 17:18 <knome> 2) cd to the branch root 17:18 <knome> 3) ./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu 17:19 <flocculant> should be in http://docs.xubuntu.org/contributors/documentation.html perhaps 17:19 <flocculant> or somewhere ... 17:19 <knome> flocculant, yeah, we currently have none really, quite a bit of that can fit in the desktop slide if we lose the two columns at the bottom 17:19 <flocculant> perhaps 17:20 <flocculant> except you were saying it had too much anyway 17:20 <knome> flocculant, this branch is temporary, but yeah, we could mention the usual slideshow branch 17:20 <flocculant> I wonder if perhaps we could 17:20 <flocculant> slide > introduces stuff 17:20 <flocculant> slide > expands a bit 17:20 <flocculant> but ofc - time constraint(s) 17:21 <flocculant> I see about 2 slides when I install on ssd 17:21 <knome> :) 17:21 <knome> we likely don't want to add more than 1 more slide if even that 17:21 <flocculant> :) 17:22 <flocculant> I'll retract then given I want a contribute one :D 17:22 <knome> flocculant, there is a contribute slide... 17:22 <knome> basically, the idea behind these changes has been that we should move the content to the website (and other places) and mostly only point to them 17:22 <flocculant> so we have 1 to play with :) 17:22 <pleia2> and to remove my cat :'( 17:22 <knome> because the information is valuable even for those who aren't installing 17:22 <flocculant> ofc 17:22 <knome> pleia2, as i said, we can add one more bubble in the local support slide saying "Meow" 17:23 <flocculant> in blue 17:23 <pleia2> indeed :) 17:23 <pleia2> but we don't translate into cat, so maybe that's confusing 17:23 <pleia2> and my cats are too lazy to do translations 17:23 <knome> but isn't the vocabulary very small too, just dump in random "meow"s and "mow"s 17:24 <knome> :P 17:24 <flocculant> knome: if you've some time later perhaps we could thrash a few bits out - working on from the conversation earlier 17:25 <knome> yep 17:25 <pleia2> so, want to continue this outside a meeting? 17:25 <knome> no, but ok :( 17:25 <knome> (just kidding) 17:25 <pleia2> har 17:25 <flocculant> hah - we can carry on if people want 17:25 <pleia2> I don't have much to add just yet 17:26 <pleia2> #subtopic Gnome-software update 17:26 <flocculant> oh my 17:26 <pleia2> Full info: Gnome-software update - aiming for decision by 7th March 17:26 <pleia2> so, who wants to start on this one? :) 17:27 <flocculant> so then - a few words I can start with then a link 17:27 <flocculant> we've now got gs in the seed 17:27 <flocculant> I've spent most of the week playing about with it 17:27 <flocculant> you can install stuff from repos now 17:27 <flocculant> now 17:28 <flocculant> I've picked up on a bunch of bugs ... 17:28 <flocculant> some are being worked on. some low priority, some high 17:28 <flocculant> I've spent some time with some in -desktop with Robert Ancell 17:29 <Nairwolf> If Ubuntu wants to integrate gnome-software in a LTS, I suppose we can trust them and hope the package will be enough stable for a LTS, no ? 17:29 <Nairwolf> I will test it tonight with the daily 17:29 <flocculant> I *could* give the meeting a whole list of bug #'s - probably best though to just give us 17:29 <flocculant> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software 17:30 <flocculant> team perhaps can look 17:30 <flocculant> the couple of issues I've found very very recently are 17:31 <flocculant> install some app - dependencies need apt-get autoremove > if this isn't changed - then we should at least let our people know 17:32 <flocculant> currently you can run gs and synaptic at the same time > not been brave enough to kill this install - only found it just before meeting so no time to kill a vm 17:32 <flocculant> bluesabre has picked up on a couple of points 17:32 <pleia2> that's a fair number of bugs 17:33 <flocculant> if people try and find bugs with gs with me as reporter - they'll be from our base 17:33 <flocculant> I HAVE tried to confirm all in a vm 17:33 <flocculant> end 17:33 <flocculant> pleia2: ack - BUT 17:34 <flocculant> robert and in fact all I've dealt with in -desktop have seemed to appreciate the bugs 17:34 <flocculant> many are triaged/fix commited 17:34 <pleia2> that's wonderful to hear :) 17:34 <flocculant> so while there *are* bugs - I think one of *us* being there helps 17:35 <flocculant> easy for a dev to not think about the bits elsewhere 17:35 <flocculant> so then 17:35 <flocculant> summing up 17:35 <flocculant> I think that we should just go with it - the nasty stuff will get dealt with I'm sure - they need it a lot more than we do 17:36 <flocculant> I hope that helps everyone :) 17:36 <pleia2> wfm 17:36 <pleia2> flocculant: is there a way xubuntu testers/contributors can pitch in with testing? 17:36 <flocculant> pleia2: well 17:36 <pleia2> people love playing with new things 17:37 <flocculant> basically they should have it now - if they install from the image - they definitely will have after 10:00UTC today 17:38 <flocculant> oh yea 17:39 <flocculant> one thing I've noticed locally *today* and I think this is probably to do with x-defaults or something, not pinged bluesabre yet - I no longer see software (as gs) in my menu 17:39 <flocculant> but it works in live 17:39 <flocculant> /done 17:39 <pleia2> I guess I mean, does the desktop team have a workflow/reporting/package test that people can do? 17:41 <flocculant> not that I know of 17:42 <flocculant> it wasn't seeing anything but local installed at the beginning of the week 17:43 * pleia2 nods 17:43 <pleia2> if they do come up with something, let me know so I can share it :) 17:43 <pleia2> and maybe let them know that it could be a useful thing, if they want more testers and bugs reported 17:44 <flocculant> ofc 17:45 <pleia2> thanks flocculant, nice to see this moving along 17:46 <flocculant> :) 17:46 <pleia2> anyone else have anything to add? 17:46 <knome> mm 17:46 <knome> yes 17:46 * knome stops ranting on the doc team meeting for a minute 17:47 <knome> pleia2, wait, was this anything to add to the pkg manager discussion or anything? 17:47 <pleia2> knome: this topic :) 17:47 <knome> then nope 17:47 * knome goes back to ranting 17:47 <Nairwolf> I have to leave, I will read logs after. 17:48 <pleia2> #topic Any other business 17:48 <pleia2> now anything :) 17:48 <flocculant> I guess we need to trak the icon down 17:48 <flocculant> for the slideshow 17:48 <knome> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2016-February/011045.html 17:50 <knome> anybody want to say anything, or should we just start the vote? 17:50 <pleia2> oh! that wasn't on the agenda 17:50 <pleia2> #info Strategy Document rewrite for "Xubuntu users" (and a bit more) 17:51 <pleia2> I'm happy to vote 17:51 <flocculant> :) 17:51 <flocculant> knome: I'm good if the change I proposed went in 17:51 <flocculant> wording iirc 17:51 <knome> it's in revision 531 17:51 <knome> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~knome/xubuntu-docs/xsd-community-updates-feb2016/revision/531 17:52 <flocculant> yep - thought it was 17:52 <knome> pleia2, start the vote then :) 17:52 <pleia2> bluesabre: still here? 17:52 <knome> pleia2, we'll just continue on the mailing list :) 17:53 <pleia2> okie 17:53 <flocculant> vote now wfm 17:54 <pleia2> #vote Approve Strategy Document rewrite for "Xubuntu users" (and a bit more) (+1) or disapprove text (-1) 17:54 <meetingology> Please vote on: Approve Strategy Document rewrite for "Xubuntu users" (and a bit more) (+1) or disapprove text (-1) 17:54 <meetingology> Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (for private voting, private message me with 'vote +1/-1/+0 #channelname) 17:54 <krytarik> +1 17:54 <meetingology> +1 received from krytarik 17:54 <flocculant> +1 17:54 <meetingology> +1 received from flocculant 17:54 <knome> +1 17:54 <meetingology> +1 received from knome 17:54 <knome> :D 17:54 <pleia2> +1 17:54 <meetingology> +1 received from pleia2 17:54 <knome> bang! 17:55 <pleia2> #endvote 17:55 <meetingology> Voting ended on: Approve Strategy Document rewrite for "Xubuntu users" (and a bit more) (+1) or disapprove text (-1) 17:55 <meetingology> Votes for:4 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 17:55 <meetingology> Motion carried 17:55 <pleia2> we'll continue on list :) 17:55 <pleia2> thanks knome 17:55 <pleia2> anything else? 17:55 <knome> i don't think so 17:56 <pleia2> #topic Schedule next meeting 17:56 <pleia2> lucky flocculant gets to schedule it next 17:57 <flocculant> oh woot 17:57 <pleia2> thanks flocculant! 17:57 <pleia2> :) 17:57 <knome> woohoo! 17:57 <pleia2> thanks everyone, happy thursday 17:57 <pleia2> #endmeeting