10:00 <flocculant> #startmeeting 10:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 21 10:00:07 2015 UTC. The chair is flocculant. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 10:00 <meetingology> 10:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 10:00 <flocculant> so who actually is here? 10:00 <knome> !team 10:00 <ubottu> bluesabre, dkessel, flocculant, jjfrv8, knome, krytarik, lderan, micahg, Noskcaj, ochosi, pleia2, slickymaster, Unit193 10:00 <bluesabre> o/ 10:00 <knome> not that list! 10:00 <knome> but it's now updated 10:00 <knome> and o/ 10:00 <flocculant> thanks knome :) 10:00 <knome> np 10:01 <dkessel> yay for more pings! im there with a strange keyboard setting due to remote connection :) 10:01 <flocculant> #topic Open action items 10:01 <knome> dkessel, you don't need the umlauts now :P 10:01 * flocculant Unit193 to split up the xubuntu-core workitem on the blueprint to be able to track the progress better 10:02 <flocculant> which as far as I am aware Unit193 did 10:02 <knome> then undo it ;) 10:02 <dkessel> knome: but what about the apostrophes and the question marks 10:02 <knome> otherwise it'll keep on cycling around... 10:02 <flocculant> #done Unit193 to split up the xubuntu-core work item on the blueprint to be able to track the progress better 10:02 <knome> (too bad that doesn't close the action item :( ) 10:03 <flocculant> knome: no need to undo it as I didn't #action it :p 10:03 <knome> oh hah 10:03 <knome> right'o.. 10:03 <bluesabre> :D 10:03 <knome> what did i say about my focus again.. 10:03 <flocculant> that it would be about normal :D 10:03 <flocculant> #Team Updates 10:03 <Unit193> Doesn't matter too much at this point, FF has passed. All 3 are up though, and were up before it. 10:04 <knome> flocculant, that failed! 10:04 <flocculant> hi Unit193 10:04 <flocculant> #topic Team Updates 10:04 <Unit193> Hi / bye 10:04 <flocculant> cya 10:05 <bluesabre> #info Catfish 1.3.0 and MenuLibre 2.1.0 uploaded to wily 10:05 <bluesabre> #info libreoffice-style-elementary 0.2 included in xubuntu-artwork 15.10.3 uploaded to wily 10:05 <dkessel> lots of new stuff to break :) 10:06 <bluesabre> #info new shimmer-themes release pending upload to wily, includes fixes for GtkHeaderBars 10:06 <flocculant> #info Image testing is much as normal - basic smoketesting going on 10:06 <flocculant> #info no idea what's going on in package world 10:06 <bluesabre> #info work on getting blueman 2.0 into wily started moving along, but will now require a FFe 10:07 <flocculant> yep read that :) 10:07 <bluesabre> what else have we done in the past few days..? 10:07 <flocculant> #info milestone testing next week (hopefully) 10:08 <flocculant> bluesabre: panel switch thing 10:08 <knome> #done knome worked more with the work items tracker improving bits here and there 10:08 <bluesabre> oh right 10:08 <flocculant> #info testing for catfish and menulibre in plan 10:09 <flocculant> #action flocculant set up catfish/menulibre testing 10:09 * meetingology flocculant set up catfish/menulibre testing 10:09 <bluesabre> #info xfpanel-switch uploaded prior to feature freeze, pending archive admin approval 10:09 <flocculant> so I don't forget that ... 10:09 <bluesabre> (thanks Mirv) 10:09 <dkessel> #info balloons is looking at hardware options for the automated image testing stuff, running tests on nested cloud VMs was negative 10:09 <flocculant> \o/ 10:10 <flocculant> anything else before we move on 10:11 <bluesabre> one more.... 10:11 <flocculant> :) 10:12 <bluesabre> #info libreoffice-style-elementary included in wily and is default. We also currently have libreoffice-style-human on the iso, working on shipping only the former 10:12 <bluesabre> ok 10:12 <knome> bluesabre, question 10:12 <bluesabre> hm 10:12 <knome> if we don't seed the default themes 10:12 <knome> will the "fallback" work, eg. will we still have all icons visible? 10:13 <knome> or do those come from "real" icon themes? 10:13 <bluesabre> for lo? 10:13 <knome> yes 10:13 <knome> or did we just dumpy everything in the new package 10:13 <knome> -y 10:13 <bluesabre> it seems like the themes can inherit from each other, but none of them do, they're all self-contained 10:13 <knome> ok, fair enough, just wondering 10:14 <knome> (maybe we should look at inheriting for w+1 if we still do that a lot) 10:14 <knome> continue 10:14 <bluesabre> libreoffice seems to pick the first alphabetically, so that's convenient for us 10:14 <bluesabre> e before g and h 10:14 <bluesabre> :D 10:14 <knome> ughhh 10:14 <flocculant> heh 10:15 <flocculant> moving on then 10:15 <flocculant> #topic Announcements 10:16 <flocculant> nothing that I'm aware of (that's not going to come up in a minute) 10:16 <bluesabre> theres a few 10:16 <flocculant> I'll let you get on with them then 10:16 <bluesabre> #info Beta 1 Freeze on Monday, Beta 1 on Thursday 10:17 <flocculant> well that's one that'll be coming up in a minute :D 10:17 <bluesabre> #info User Interface Freeze on September 10 10:17 <bluesabre> :D 10:17 <bluesabre> that's an announcement, reminder to get in gear ;) 10:17 <knome> #info remember to keep your work items up to date 10:18 <bluesabre> now that it's easy, no excuses 10:18 <knome> i'm happy that we only have a few unassigned items 10:18 <knome> only a longer list of bugs for -dev 10:18 <bluesabre> yup 10:18 <flocculant> couple could possibly go 10:18 <bluesabre> bugfix time starts now :'( 10:19 <flocculant> anymore announcements? 10:19 <bluesabre> done here 10:19 <knome> i'm good 10:19 <flocculant> #topic Discussion 10:19 <flocculant> #subtopic Beta 1 milestone 10:19 <flocculant> so - assuming it happens 10:19 <knome> yes please 10:19 <flocculant> that relies on someone from community doing stuff 10:20 <flocculant> I would but I'm MIA next week 10:20 <flocculant> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WilyWerewolf/ReleaseTaskSignup 10:20 <flocculant> no-one on checklist tracking for B1 10:21 <flocculant> I'll be mailing -release later saying that we will participate and higlighting it's empty 10:21 <flocculant> so all being well - I'll send mail to list for us 10:21 <bluesabre> oh wow 10:21 <bluesabre> nice big hole there 10:21 <flocculant> but will have to rely on -release and -qa to chivvy people along for us 10:22 <flocculant> and probably mark ready on thursday 10:22 <knome> i will be off whole monday... 10:22 <flocculant> #action flocculant Mail dev re B1 testing 10:22 * meetingology flocculant Mail dev re B1 testing 10:22 <bluesabre> I can get on and mark ready for us as needed on thursday if nobody else can 10:22 <knome> i should be able to do that as well 10:23 <flocculant> #action Xubuntu Release/QA teams to try and move testers along if needed 10:23 * meetingology Xubuntu Release/QA teams to try and move testers along if needed 10:23 <knome> - even if i'm not in the -release team O:) 10:23 <flocculant> #action flocculant mail -release re Beta 1 10:23 * meetingology flocculant mail -release re Beta 1 10:23 <flocculant> that's all I have on that 10:24 <flocculant> though I do have another topic to start the ball rolling on 10:24 <knome> do we have a testing focus? 10:24 <knome> or just everything? 10:24 <flocculant> knome: well - yea everything - at least try and get some hardware tests in the mix 10:24 <knome> yep 10:25 <flocculant> if I'm back in time I'll weigh in obviously 10:25 <bluesabre> I think a new nvidia landed recently, so that could be fun or trouble 10:25 <knome> yep, np, take your time etc :) 10:25 <flocculant> bluesabre: not seen that 10:25 <bluesabre> it might be in the queue still 10:25 <flocculant> probably old card too ;) 10:26 <bluesabre> :) 10:26 <flocculant> anymore B1 points? 10:26 <bluesabre> (nvidia-graphics-drivers-352 (352.30-0ubuntu1)) 10:27 <bluesabre> I don't think i have anything at this time 10:27 <knome> bluesabre, ochosi: do you want to upload the new wallpaper for B1? 10:27 <bluesabre> knome: if it's ready, hand it over and I will upload 10:27 <bluesabre> :D 10:27 <knome> i'll have to do some tweaks, but mostly it's good to go 10:27 <bluesabre> nice 10:27 <flocculant> bluesabre: yea - just looked, my card = 340. as far as I can tell :) 10:27 <bluesabre> two releases in a row on time with the artwork 10:27 * bluesabre is proud 10:28 <flocculant> :) 10:28 <knome> ha 10:28 <flocculant> okey doke - time to move on? 10:28 <knome> yep 10:28 * bluesabre nods 10:28 <flocculant> #subtopic Package testing 10:28 <flocculant> ... 10:29 <flocculant> ok so - currently we are not using the tracker and trying for exploratory 10:29 <flocculant> I need to get that mail (or whatever I do) sent out 10:29 <flocculant> but 10:29 <ochosi> hi everyone 10:29 <ochosi> sorry for being late 10:29 <flocculant> we don't now have any real way of tracking things - just relying on bugs being reported 10:29 <flocculant> hi ochosi ::) 10:30 <bluesabre> yeah 10:30 * ochosi is reading backlog now 10:30 <bluesabre> hiya ochosi 10:30 <knome> flocculant, we could probably ask people to add certain tag to the bugs to make it a bit more trackable 10:30 <flocculant> yep - that at least is in my notes for whatever I send 10:30 <knome> and with that, we could eventually pull a list of those bugs to the tracker too 10:31 <flocculant> that's what I was leading up to :D 10:31 <flocculant> I think this is what we talked a bit about a week or so ago 10:31 <flocculant> just wanted to bring it up in a meeting 10:32 <flocculant> so - as far as tag goes - something easy to remember like xubuntu-w(or x or y) 10:33 <knome> or something that goes from cycle to cycle and then another tag to list the cycle? 10:33 <knome> eg. add "xubuntu-exploratory" and "wily" 10:33 <ochosi> knome: i'd be ok with shipping the new wall with b1, although otoh we haven't done that in the past and there's no more "scoop" to it 10:33 <flocculant> knome: ok - that probably sounds best 10:33 <ochosi> and i like the "in development" wallpaper 10:33 <knome> ochosi, that's why i asked, i can also hold on to it until b2 10:34 <ochosi> bluesabre: mind waiting with the wall? 10:34 <knome> he doesn't have it, so... :P 10:34 <bluesabre> ochosi: I don't mind 10:34 <flocculant> ha ha 10:34 <bluesabre> I just upload when you guys say 'hey sean, wp' 10:34 <knome> i'm mostly going to do testing with a laptop screen to make stuff is visible enough 10:35 <ochosi> :) 10:35 <knome> and maybe tweak some minor things 10:35 <ochosi> right, feel free to share within -team if you want feedback 10:35 <ochosi> or -artwork :p 10:35 <knome> that said, there's not much to tweak in four triangles... 10:35 <knome> "oops" :P 10:36 <flocculant> no curves \o/ 10:36 <ochosi> :D 10:36 <flocculant> I can see angles ... 10:36 <knome> probably some elliptical circles 10:36 <flocculant> ha ha 10:36 <bluesabre> there goes knome using ms paint again 10:36 <knome> \o/ 10:36 <ochosi> lol 10:36 <knome> that'd be a challenge 10:37 <knome> it's ages since i did pure pixel pushing 10:37 <ochosi> for LTS+1 maybe ? :D 10:37 <knome> huhu 10:37 <bluesabre> :p 10:37 <knome> well, LTS starts the new wp saga 10:37 <knome> so who knows... 10:37 <ochosi> anyhow, you've already listed my updates 10:37 <ochosi> so thanks for that 10:38 <flocculant> ok - anymore wp stuff - if not ... 10:38 <ochosi> anything else you want to discuss with me? 10:38 <ochosi> cause i gotta run in a minute again 10:38 <ochosi> "moar baby stuff" 10:38 <ochosi> (sorry to be so disruptive) 10:38 <bluesabre> :) 10:38 <flocculant> ochosi: you ok with others working out a way to get exploratory stuff on our tracker? 10:38 <flocculant> ochosi: and if you think this is disruptive ... 10:39 <ochosi> flocculant: sure! 10:39 <ochosi> :) 10:39 <ochosi> i'll read the rest of the backlog then, sry! bbl 10:39 <flocculant> ok - so if knome and I work that out - assuming knome is happy :) 10:39 <ochosi> cool 10:39 <ochosi> thanks flocculant + knome :) 10:40 <knome> yep, i'm ok 10:40 <flocculant> #action knome and flocculant to work out exploratory bugs on tracker 10:40 * meetingology knome and flocculant to work out exploratory bugs on tracker 10:40 <flocculant> I've nothing else for discussion - anyone else got anything? 10:41 <bluesabre> i'm good 10:41 <flocculant> knome dkessel ? 10:41 <knome> nope 10:42 <flocculant> #topic Schedule next meeting 10:42 <flocculant> let's have another go at ... 10:42 <flocculant> #info slickymaster is to schedule the next meeting 10:42 <bluesabre> yay not me 10:42 <flocculant> #endmeeting