19:02 <knome> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting 19:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Feb 6 19:02:38 2014 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 19:02 <meetingology> 19:02 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 19:02 <elfy> o/ 19:02 <knome> #topic Open action items 19:03 <knome> will have to dig them up... 19:03 <ali1234> gtk3 indicators 19:04 <knome> ali1234, will we carry that on? 19:04 <ali1234> yes. nothing further happened with the upstart porting, but something new also came to my attention recently 19:04 <knome> oki 19:04 <knome> #action ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status 19:04 * meetingology ali1234 follows up on gtk3 indicator status 19:04 <knome> #action ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues 19:04 * meetingology ali1234 and micahg to follow up on gtk3 indicator stack issues 19:05 <knome> #nick micahg 19:05 <knome> #action elfy to poke Noskcaj if time-admin and users-admin do not exist in the next daily 19:05 * meetingology elfy to poke Noskcaj if time-admin and users-admin do not exist in the next daily 19:05 <ali1234> namely that elementary also is a user of indicators, and they are in the same boat as us, except that they don't seem to be as well up with what is going on 19:05 <knome> Noskcaj, did you get that sorted out with pitti? 19:05 <ali1234> so i'm going to go and have a chat with them, if i can 19:05 <elfy> knome: that's been put to bed now 19:05 <knome> ali1234, ok, so we're steering that ship; thanks for keeping updated 19:05 <knome> #undo 19:05 <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Action object at 0x18d3b90> 19:05 <Noskcaj> knome, yep. I screwed up on some DESTDIR stuff 19:05 <knome> elfy, cheers :) 19:05 <knome> Noskcaj, ok, great to have it sorted then 19:06 <knome> #action knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position 19:06 * meetingology knome to be in touch with people re Tech Lead position 19:06 <knome> will carry one 19:06 <knome> *on 19:06 <knome> i think we're good with the bluetooth stuff. 19:07 <knome> #action micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches 19:07 * meetingology micahg to talk with the DMB and separate -dev from upload rights so we can allow more people to push to xubuntu branches 19:07 <knome> micahg-work, ping, is that done? 19:08 <micahg-work> working on it 19:08 <knome> ok, carrying on 19:09 <knome> #action xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase 19:09 * meetingology xubuntu-qa to make sure there is a blueman testcase 19:09 <knome> #nick xubuntu-qa 19:09 <knome> and from the docs meeting: 19:09 <knome> #action Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs 19:09 * meetingology Unit193 to do merge proposals for "X performs Y" styled listings for the docs 19:09 <knome> #nick Unit193 19:09 <knome> #topic Team updates 19:10 <knome> use #info and #action as appropriate. 19:10 <knome> floor is yours 19:10 <slickymaster> #info slickymaster has finished porting the Mugshot documentation into the Xubuntu docs 19:10 <elfy> knome: actioning something is great - but if we've not got any bluetooth to check - it'll get moved on 19:10 <slickymaster> #info slickymaster started to work on porting the Xfdesktop documentation into Xubuntu docs 19:11 <jjfrv8-work> #info Docs team held a Trusty meeting and assignments were handed out 19:11 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa Package testing - Settings Manager - mandatory testing +2, run-once and optional +1 19:11 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 32bit/ Live 4 tests, Alt 5 test 19:11 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa 12.04.4 64bit/ Live 6 tests, Alt 6 tests 19:11 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 32 bit 11 tests 19:11 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa Trusty Daily 64 bit 18 tests 19:11 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa XFCE Core Package testing due next week 19:11 <elfy> #info xubuntu-qa light-locker has seen testing now 19:11 <knome> elfy, we should be shipping blueman 19:11 <knome> :) 19:11 <jjfrv8-work> #info Kudos to knome and bluesabre for getting the SRU Docs update through all the hurdles 19:11 <knome> and i can organize testing for the testcase :) 19:12 <knome> yeah, yay, fixed looks for the docs in 12.04! 19:12 <pleia2> \o/ 19:12 <Noskcaj> weather plugin 12.04 status? 19:13 <elfy> knome: blueman - mandatory, optional or run-once 19:14 <knome> elfy, either opt or once 19:14 <elfy> #info elfy Blueman added to Network Testsuite 19:15 <elfy> so that's done then 19:15 <knome> hehe, nice 19:15 <knome> though one can argue if it's network or not >:) 19:16 <elfy> yep - we can argue all you like - the die is cast :p 19:16 <ali1234> i tried to use blueman today and it crashed - for a2dp/sound :( 19:16 <knome> ali1234, did you file a bug? 19:16 <ali1234> no, it's saucy, nobody will care 19:17 <ali1234> probably won't be able to reproduce it either 19:17 <knome> #info knome and pleia2 helped startubuntu create some xubuntu-branded versions of "xp to *buntu*" flyers 19:17 <Unit193> Got indicator-sound merged. 19:17 <knome> Unit193, caaaaan you #infoooo 19:17 <elfy> :p 19:17 <pleia2> #info the flyers were widely shared on social media and pleia2 is printing some up for an upcoming conference 19:17 <pleia2> #link http://xubuntu.org/marketingresources/ 19:18 <knome> pleia2, still, you don't need #link with bare links ;) 19:18 <pleia2> #info site updated to link to several language variations on spreadubuntu.org 19:18 * pleia2 shrugs 19:18 <Unit193> #info got pavucontrol merged into indicator-sound as an alternate recommends to the control centers, so we shouldn't be pulling them in because of that at least. 19:19 <Unit193> Just waiting to hear back from the two artists for the xubuntu-community-artwork package, also if mica has time to review it, but not sure he does. 19:20 <knome> Unit193, this is a meeting, just proudly ping people :P 19:20 <knome> re: #xubuntu, i have the page ready to be updated, waiting for cjwatson's ack of release 19:21 <knome> anything else for the updates? 19:21 <knome> #topic Announcements 19:21 <knome> #info 12.04.4 will be released any minute! 19:22 <pleia2> :D 19:22 <slickymaster> I have an offtopic announcement 19:22 <jjfrv8-work> #info With knome's help, jjfrv8 received approval for ~ubuntu-core-doc membership 19:22 <knome> \o/ 19:22 <Unit193> \o/ 19:22 <elfy> \o/ 19:22 <slickymaster> congrats jjfrv8 19:22 <knome> i just went and marked that as done in the blueprint 19:22 <slickymaster> today is my Ubuntu Membership application, at 22:00 UTC, in #ubuntu-meeting. So if you guys feel like showing up and support it I would appreciate it 19:23 <elfy> it's a bit late ... :p 19:23 <knome> pleia2, was that at the same time as the docs meeting? :D 19:23 <knome> too many meetings today. 19:23 <pleia2> knome: yes 19:23 <slickymaster> yes it is, knome :P 19:23 <pleia2> indeed 19:23 <knome> slickymaster, if i'm around, will be there 19:23 <slickymaster> tks 19:23 <Unit193> slickymaster: Since I didn't write one yet, make sure to ping me right before so I will be there? 19:23 <knome> #info Debian Import Freeze is today 19:23 <slickymaster> will do Unit193 19:23 <knome> #info Feature Freeze is in 2 weeks 19:23 <slickymaster> and also you, micahg-work 19:24 <Unit193> Yeah, sorry. 19:24 <knome> #info Beta 1 is in 3 weeks, freeze in the first half of that week 19:24 <knome> #topic Agenda 19:24 <knome> no specific agenda items. 19:25 <knome> does anybody have something else to discuss? 19:25 <Noskcaj> weather plugin in 12.04 19:25 <Noskcaj> my MOTU application 19:25 <knome> what's with the weather plugin? 19:25 <pleia2> after yesterday's doc meeting, I'm putting together a release checklist for the website (what we need to create/update) 19:26 <knome> pleia2, don't we have that in the wiki? 19:26 <knome> let me dig that up. 19:26 <knome> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Release_Cycle 19:26 <knome> specifically, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Releasing 19:27 <pleia2> knome: it needs updating 19:27 <knome> yep. 19:27 <knome> but please do it on the wiki :) 19:27 <pleia2> "Update the website" isn't enough ;) 19:27 <knome> i'm also thinking that could have its own subpage in Processes 19:27 <schproodle> Testing QATracker using VirtualBox. Testing Post-Install. Pendrive insertion fails in VM but it is mounted by the host machine. 19:27 <knome> well there's also "wiki maintaining" 19:27 <pleia2> we need to come up with our FAQ post, define which pages need updates, etc 19:28 <knome> what we probably need is gather all these in one big calendar 19:28 <knome> or, a similar table as the release schedules 19:28 <knome> schproodle, we're in the middle of the meeting, if you can wait for 15 minutes, would be good. 19:28 <pleia2> Unit193 could just put these milestones into the xubuntu calendar 19:28 <knome> schproodle, feel free to take part in the meeting though 19:28 <knome> xubuntu calendar is a bit meh :| 19:29 <schproodle> I get the donuts eh :) 19:29 <knome> TBH, i think the release schedule table is surprisingly good 19:29 <Unit193> pleia2: Sure, sorry what ones? 19:29 <pleia2> so you don't want it in a calendar? :) 19:29 <knome> pleia2, can be *as well* 19:29 <pleia2> Unit193: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Processes#Releasing 19:29 <knome> pleia2, but i guess i'd also like to have a release-specific calendar 19:29 <knome> that should of course be updated per release 19:30 <pleia2> no moar calendars 19:30 <knome> err, 19:30 <knome> i mean 19:30 <knome> wiki table 19:30 <knome> :P 19:30 <pleia2> ah 19:30 <knome> ala https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule 19:30 <elfy> :) 19:30 <pleia2> yeah sure 19:30 <knome> i do agree that the processes page needs updating though 19:31 <knome> i'm more than happy to help with it any day our schedules allow to sit down together 19:31 <knome> ...figuratively speaking 19:31 <pleia2> ok, I'll start brainstorming when I have extra braincells, then we can flesh it out 19:31 <knome> sure, great, thanks 19:32 <knome> #action pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned 19:32 * meetingology pleia2 starts working on getting the Processes wikipage updated and cleaned 19:32 <Unit193> In addition to, or rather than? 19:32 <knome> Unit193, we should probably update the calendar with those milestones as well. 19:33 <knome> and i should probably either learn using the calendar (in a non-technical way), or just dismiss all schedules after trusty ;) 19:34 <knome> #action Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar 19:34 * meetingology Unit193 to add process-related tasks as events in the xubuntu team calendar 19:35 <knome> Noskcaj, still waiting for an answer re: weather plugin 19:35 <Noskcaj> ok 19:35 <knome> so what's up with it in precise? 19:36 <micahg-work> in unapproved 19:37 <knome> is there something specific to be discussed about it, or do we just want it to move along? 19:37 <Noskcaj> I just wanted to check the status with micahg-work 19:37 <knome> okay 19:38 <knome> Noskcaj, ok, motu application 19:38 <micahg-work> if the weather plugin is needed for something, poke the SRU team, but precise-proposed has been frozen the last few days 19:38 <Noskcaj> well weather-plugin is complete dead currently 19:39 <Noskcaj> I've not had a reply to my motu application in three weeks 19:39 <micahg-work> I'll try to move that forward tonight 19:39 <Unit193> knome: OK, done more or less, might want to take a look. Also, what additional data do you want? 19:40 <knome> Unit193, you should talk with pleia2, or alternative me after we've refreshed the page 19:40 <knome> Noskcaj, can you talk with the SRU team about the weather plugin? 19:41 <Noskcaj> ok 19:41 <elfy> once it's ready, let me know - but I should pick it up from the bug 19:42 <knome> 12.04 is supported for one more year only (for the xubuntu part), and 14.04 is out in 6 months, so the more it stands in queues the less its impact will be 19:42 <elfy> #action Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin 19:42 * meetingology Noskcaj to ping elfy re weather plugin 19:42 <knome> #action micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application 19:42 * meetingology micahg to look at Noskcaj's MOTU application 19:42 <knome> #action Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin 19:42 * meetingology Noskcaj to poke the SRU team about the weather plugin 19:43 <knome> any other things people want to discuss? 19:44 <elfy> nope 19:44 <knome> #topic Schedule next meeting 19:44 <knome> #info Next meeting Thu, Feb 13 at 19UTC 19:44 <knome> #endmeeting