15:00 <knome> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting 15:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Nov 7 15:00:27 2013 UTC. The chair is knome. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:00 <meetingology> 15:00 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 15:00 <knome> #topic Items carried on 15:00 <knome> #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting 15:01 <knome> #action knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week 15:01 * meetingology knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week 15:01 <knome> yes, will try to get to it ASAP 15:01 <knome> i sent the updated SD stuff to list 15:01 <knome> #nick micahg 15:01 <knome> #action micahg to talk to barry about python2.7/3 situation 15:01 * meetingology micahg to talk to barry about python2.7/3 situation 15:01 <knome> #action micahg to upload whiskermenu to xfce PPAs 15:01 * meetingology micahg to upload whiskermenu to xfce PPAs 15:02 <GridCube> :) 15:02 <knome> #nick ochosi 15:02 <knome> #action ochosi announces the community wallpapers project on the mailing list 15:02 * meetingology ochosi announces the community wallpapers project on the mailing list 15:02 <knome> #nick team 15:02 <knome> #action (convert to work item) team to investigate patching xfce4-power-manager or finding alternatives 15:02 * meetingology (convert to work item) team to investigate patching xfce4-power-manager or finding alternatives 15:02 <knome> #subtopi Strategy Document reviewing 15:03 <knome> #subtopic Strategy Document reviewing 15:03 <knome> #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-November/009413.html 15:03 <knome> who has had time to go through? 15:03 <skellat> o/ 15:05 <knome> skellat, +1 or -1, or need changes to be either? 15:05 <skellat> I would want to loosen up the interpreted languages bit to allow for use of Python-based tools as well as to adjust the C++ portion to reflect that Firefox is coded in that 15:06 <skellat> The only strictly C browser I can think of at this point is Dillo and that is a suboptimal choice for users 15:07 <knome> since that portion isn't what we have changed now, would you be happy to approve changes and then start a review for the technical bits? 15:07 <skellat> Yes 15:07 <knome> okay, good 15:07 <knome> i'm mostly interested if people in the -team (GridCube included) are happy with the proposed *changes* 15:07 <knome> i know we probably need to go through more of the technical side as well 15:07 <knome> (or eventually strip some of that off to procedures) 15:08 <skellat> The changes overall seem fairly minor so +1 15:08 <knome> i think it would benefit us all though if we got the first batch of changes in ASAP 15:08 <knome> skellat, except voting for XPL. otherwise we just dropped stuff. 15:09 <knome> (to wiki/Xubuntu/Processes, to make them more flexible) 15:09 <GridCube> :) i don't mind them, i find that they simplify the work 15:09 <skellat> We've previous discussed XPL voting and I have no objections to the change 15:09 <knome> okay 15:09 <knome> anyway, i'll send a mail 15:09 <GridCube> although i can't never rememeber how to find them 15:10 <GridCube> i see everyone referncing them but i have to dig a whole lot to find the SD 15:10 <knome> #action knome to send email about progressing with the SD review; we will need to approve current changes at some point; we can get back to revieweing the technicalities later 15:10 * meetingology knome to send email about progressing with the SD review; we will need to approve current changes at some point; we can get back to revieweing the technicalities later 15:10 <knome> GridCube, go to the wiki. 15:10 <knome> GridCube, click the "Strategy Document" link. 15:10 <knome> GridCube, done. 15:11 <GridCube> thats the "actual" strategy document 15:11 <knome> yes. 15:11 <GridCube> well, where is the proposed? 15:11 <knome> GridCube, see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-devel/2013-November/009413.html for the branch with the proposed one 15:11 <knome> i just linked that earlier 15:12 <skellat> #link http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~knome/+junk/xubuntu-strategy-document-rewrite-1311/view/head:/strategy-document 15:12 <knome> well that too. the mail summaries what's changed though 15:12 <knome> (and it's not a trap) 15:13 <knome> but please review it when you can, let's not waste meeting time for that 15:13 <knome> i'll get back to you all with a new email, 15:13 <knome> . 15:13 <knome> #topic Team updates 15:13 <knome> is there anything? 15:14 <knome> #info 12.04 docs SRU is getting sponsored 15:14 <skellat> #info The documentation SRU for 12.04 was sponsored by Sebastien Bacher and is working its way through the various queues 15:14 <knome> that's the another way of saying it :) 15:14 <knome> anything else? 15:14 <skellat> More verbose 15:14 <knome> very much, cheers skellat :) 15:14 <skellat> I've got nothing else 15:15 <knome> i think we're still a bit slow on "new" things 15:15 <knome> #topic Announcements 15:15 <knome> none from me. others? 15:15 <skellat> #info Ubuntu Developer Summit will run November 19-21 15:16 <knome> #info Agenda at http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/ 15:16 <skellat> I don't believe there are any flavor sessions at all on the schedule this time 15:17 <knome> me neither 15:17 <skellat> #info RELEASE TEAM needs to attend this vUDS-1311 panel if at all possible: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1311/meeting/22041/core-1311-release/ 15:18 <knome> that doesn't sound like too interesting, or critical to me 15:19 <skellat> Moving milestones possibly again 15:19 <knome> mostly the release schedule discussion 15:19 <skellat> Yep 15:19 <knome> #nick team 15:19 <skellat> The original version had us dropping an alpha at Christmas, oddly enough 15:20 <knome> #action team members to go through the UDS schedule and schedule their schedule to be able to make the sessions per the schedule 15:20 * meetingology team members to go through the UDS schedule and schedule their schedule to be able to make the sessions per the schedule 15:20 <knome> #topic New and emerging items 15:21 <knome> #subtopic Approve or decline specifications on the Roadmap 15:21 <knome> we have three team members here 15:21 <knome> 1/2 quorum would need 6 persons 15:21 <knome> 1/3 4 15:21 <knome> i don't think we should go ahead unless people show up in the next 5 minutes 15:21 <GridCube> agreed 15:22 <knome> so let's do this 15:22 <knome> #undo 15:22 <meetingology> Removing item from minutes: <MeetBot.items.Subtopic object at 0x18d5d90> 15:22 <knome> #subtopic Schedule next meeting 15:22 <GridCube> anytime is good to me 15:23 <knome> #info Next Xubuntu community meeting on November 14, 16UTC (note the one-hour later time, we are now all non-DST) 15:23 <knome> and now i'll idle for 5 minutes doing other stuff, waiting for people to pop in. 15:38 <knome> #endmeeting