15:02 <bluesabre> #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting 15:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 17 15:02:51 2013 UTC. The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:02 <meetingology> 15:02 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 15:03 <bluesabre> #chair ochosi 15:03 <meetingology> Current chairs: bluesabre ochosi 15:03 <GridCube> :) 15:03 <bluesabre> who's here? 15:03 <GridCube> o/ 15:03 <jjfrv8-work> o/ 15:04 <ochosi> o/ 15:04 <bluesabre> hey folks! 15:04 <bluesabre> #topic Items carried on 15:05 <bluesabre> #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting 15:05 <bluesabre> #action knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week 15:05 * meetingology knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week 15:05 <bluesabre> #action knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt 15:05 * meetingology knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt 15:06 <bluesabre> #action mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later 15:06 * meetingology mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later 15:06 <bluesabre> #action micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch 15:06 * meetingology micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch 15:06 <bluesabre> #action skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so 15:06 * meetingology skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so 15:07 <bluesabre> I'm not very good at this :D 15:08 <GridCube> P: you are doing well 15:08 <bluesabre> basically copy-pasting knome's script from last time 15:09 <ochosi> hehe, looks fine to me 15:10 <bluesabre> #subtopic Strategy Document reviewing 15:10 <bluesabre> any updates here? 15:11 * ochosi wasn't involved 15:11 <jjfrv8-work> I think the vote has been postponed twice and it doesn't look like we have a quorum today. 15:11 <bluesabre> looks like it was knome, pleia2, micahg, and possibly jjfrv8-work involved 15:12 <bluesabre> looks like we'll postpone this for next meeting then 15:12 <ochosi> yup 15:12 <bluesabre> #subtopic Ideas for using the project money 15:13 <bluesabre> another item where we need knome/pleia2 most likely 15:13 <bluesabre> but... any thoughts, ideas, etc? 15:13 <GridCube> no, i think we got the tshirts pretty much 15:14 <bluesabre> oh, any updates on that? 15:15 * bluesabre reads last meeting backlog now 15:15 <bluesabre> knome had an action item here 15:16 <bluesabre> so, if nothing else, we'll move on 15:17 <bluesabre> #topic Team updates 15:17 <bluesabre> ochosi? 15:17 <ochosi> ok, for artwork... 15:17 <ochosi> our themes have seen new releases today 15:18 <ochosi> exciting news, we re-gained granite support (for elementary-os apps), gtk3.9 support and support for client-side decorations 15:18 <ochosi> so in case people enable the gnome3.10 ppa our themes will not break 15:18 <ochosi> i've sent an email to mr_pouit already requesting the upload before UIF 15:19 <bluesabre> cool, want to add some #infos, and give mrpouit an action item? 15:22 <ochosi> oh 15:22 <ochosi> sure 15:22 <bluesabre> #nick mr_pouit 15:22 <ochosi> sorry 15:22 <bluesabre> :D 15:22 <ochosi> (i'm half-working here) 15:22 <ochosi> #info our themes have seen new releases today 15:22 <bluesabre> me too, its cool 15:22 <ochosi> #info exciting news, we re-gained granite support (for elementary-os apps), gtk3.9 support and support for client-side decorations 15:23 <ochosi> #action mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF 15:23 * meetingology mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF 15:23 <bluesabre> sweet 15:23 <bluesabre> for applications... 15:23 <bluesabre> #info the latest gmusicbrowser is now in saucy 15:24 <bluesabre> #info ochosi and I have been working on a lightdm-gtk-greeter fix for lock/login issues, to be uploaded tonight 15:25 <bluesabre> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1204486 15:25 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1204486 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "Unable to select alternate languages at login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] 15:26 <ochosi> #info for those wanting to test the lightdm-gtk-greeter fix, read comment #15 on the bugreport 15:26 <bluesabre> thanks 15:26 <bluesabre> GridCube, how's the DA xubuntu-showcase going? 15:27 <bluesabre> haven't looked at it for a while :) 15:27 <GridCube> pretty much stalled 15:27 <bluesabre> :( 15:28 <GridCube> we cant reach the objectives 15:28 <GridCube> if we dont start advertising, and we cant start advertising because no one has fullfiled the rules 15:28 <GridCube> mostly licencies problems 15:28 <bluesabre> ah 15:28 <bluesabre> that's no fun 15:29 <GridCube> we can get users to change their licences, but we hardly cant get a licence for their desktop backgrounds 15:29 <GridCube> wich in many cases is central to the destop setting 15:29 <bluesabre> right 15:29 <GridCube> so yeah 15:30 <GridCube> i got a few users to get their permissions and im waiting for knome to have a moment to try and upload the first soon 15:30 <GridCube> i hope 15:30 <GridCube> lets see if after that things move at a better pace 15:30 <GridCube> so 15:31 <GridCube> #info the xubuntu showcase is doing work but it moves slowly 15:31 <GridCube> #action knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases 15:31 * meetingology knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases 15:31 <bluesabre> cool, hoping to see some momentum on that :) 15:31 <GridCube> :) 15:32 <bluesabre> does anybody else have updates? 15:32 <bluesabre> #topic Announcements 15:33 <bluesabre> I saw the announcement from last week, congrats jjfrv8-work on the extra responsibilities :) 15:33 <micahg-work> sorry I'm late 15:33 <bluesabre> hey micahg-work! 15:34 <jjfrv8-work> Thanks. 15:34 <bluesabre> it's okay, we've got myself, ochosi, GridCube, and jjfrv8-work 15:34 <bluesabre> We're on announcements, but if you've got any updates, :) 15:35 <micahg-work> nope, ochosi's gmb patch still needs uploading (which I should get to tonight) 15:35 <bluesabre> oh, which patch is this? 15:36 <micahg-work> still need to discuss indicators for saucy 15:36 <micahg-work> albuminfo plugin IIRC 15:36 <bluesabre> oh cool 15:37 <micahg-work> unfortunately, that's about all I'll get to before the weekend unless there's something critical 15:37 <bluesabre> what's the status on the indicators for saucy? are we considering using the gtk3 wrapper or discussing broken indicators? 15:37 * bluesabre is behind on updates 15:38 <micahg-work> well, I'm not 100% up to date on what's going on 15:38 <bluesabre> ochosi: are you more up-to-date? 15:39 <ochosi> well the gtk3 indicators seem stable so far 15:39 <micahg-work> if we can get the existing indicators working without too much work or risk, I'd rather do that for saucy and try to land the gtk3 indicator stuff when T opens 15:39 <ochosi> but there hasn't been a release on libxfce4ui or the panel 15:40 <micahg-work> if we have no choice, we can either drop indicators for saucy or try to get a freeze exception to push the gtk3 stuff 15:40 <ochosi> imo it doesn't make a huge difference though 15:40 <ochosi> we also ship random snapshots of abiword :) 15:40 <bluesabre> :) 15:40 <bluesabre> micahg-work, have you seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 15:40 <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] 15:40 <micahg-work> abiword's not a core DE component ;) 15:41 <micahg-work> bluesabre, yeah, that's what we're discussing I think 15:41 <micahg-work> can someone please subscribe me 15:41 <bluesabre> ok, cool 15:41 <bluesabre> will do now 15:41 <micahg-work> thanks 15:41 <micahg-work> ali1234 did a lot of digging for this 15:41 <micahg-work> or at least this bug is half the puzzle 15:42 <bluesabre> yeah 15:42 <ochosi> my personal take is that fixing the soundindicator won't go down without a lot of work 15:43 <ochosi> at least that's what ali1234's comments on it suggested 15:43 <micahg-work> right, I don't think porting the indicator is worthwhile 15:43 <ochosi> so i think pushing new versions for gtk3 support or dropping indicators are the remaining options 15:43 <micahg-work> so, either there's some way to use the gtk2 dbus service 15:43 <micahg-work> or one of those 2 options 15:44 <ochosi> gotta run folks 15:44 <ochosi> sorry 15:44 <bluesabre> its cool 15:44 <bluesabre> any there any other announcements? 15:45 <bluesabre> alrighty 15:45 <bluesabre> #topic New and emerging items 15:45 <bluesabre> #subtopic Schedule next meeting 15:46 <bluesabre> I think we should postpone this until there are more of us around 15:46 <micahg-work> well, we have beta 2 next week 15:46 <bluesabre> ah 15:46 <bluesabre> thursday? 15:46 <micahg-work> that's why we had the meeting in the first place 15:46 <micahg-work> yeah, I think the freeze is Monday for beta 2 now 15:46 <micahg-work> do we still need docs uploaded? 15:47 <bluesabre> I'm not sure 15:49 <micahg-work> jjfrv8-work, are the latest docs in saucy? 15:49 <jjfrv8-work> They're about 80% complete. I still have some review to do. 15:50 <micahg-work> doc string freeze is thursday 15:50 <jjfrv8-work> oops. Looks like I won't make it. 15:51 <micahg-work> thursday 21:00 UTC, so I'd suggest pushing as far as we can, then finding someone to upload (I won't be around) 15:51 <micahg-work> jjfrv8-work, maybe talk to the release team and the translators to see if we can get more time then 15:51 <jjfrv8-work> Ok 15:51 <micahg-work> we only have 4 weeks until release 15:52 * micahg-work won't get to some of his pet projects for the cycle either it seems 15:52 <bluesabre> Should we schedule a meeting for thursday to try to get a last-minute idea of where we are for beta2? 15:52 <micahg-work> I won't be around, but feel free, and leave me notes if something needs to be done before Monday (freeze) 15:52 <jjfrv8-work> I can't make Thursday 15:54 <bluesabre> you can send updates to the -devel ml before the meeting, we'll pick them up for the meeting 15:54 * micahg-work will brb 15:54 <bluesabre> k 15:56 <bluesabre> #info next meeting, tentatively scheduled for Thursday, September 19, 1500 UTC 15:56 <bluesabre> #action knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed 15:56 * meetingology knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed 15:56 <bluesabre> :) 15:57 <bluesabre> we'll go ahead and wrap up, I gotta run 15:57 <bluesabre> #endmeeting