15:02:51 <pleia2> #startmeeting
15:02:51 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan 24 15:02:51 2013 UTC.  The chair is pleia2. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
15:02:52 <meetingology> 
15:02:52 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired
15:03:04 <pleia2> #chair pleia2 knome ochosi maddernick
15:03:04 <meetingology> Current chairs: knome maddernick ochosi pleia2
15:03:05 <ochosi> maddernick: sounds good, ping and i'll test it
15:03:18 <pleia2> #topic Items carried on
15:03:50 <pleia2> ok, lets see here..
15:05:12 <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2012-01-09
15:05:40 <pleia2> GridCube: any update on your QA item?
15:06:02 <GridCube> the qa was already released
15:06:17 <GridCube> oh... no sorry
15:06:23 <pleia2> GridCube: the tracker updates?
15:06:25 <GridCube> i didnt knew i had tha item on me
15:06:28 <pleia2> :)
15:06:36 <GridCube> i though it was faq
15:06:42 <GridCube> no, will see to it
15:06:47 <pleia2> oops
15:06:49 <pleia2> wrong year!
15:06:51 <pleia2> haha
15:07:09 <GridCube> XD
15:07:22 <smartboyhw> Found the new one
15:07:24 <GridCube> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings
15:07:27 <pleia2> just clicked on the first january I saw on the archive page ;)
15:07:29 <smartboyhw> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2013-01-10
15:07:39 <GridCube> that makes more sense
15:07:43 <pleia2> micahg: said he wouldn't be able to make it and knome isn't here yet
15:07:52 <pleia2> my action item depends on knome's
15:07:57 <pleia2> bluesabre_: you about?
15:08:06 <bluesabre_> hey!
15:08:15 <pleia2> smartboyhw: thanks, adding this link to the archives now
15:09:08 <pleia2> bluesabre_: any update on you action items? (please use #info I always forget)
15:09:53 <bluesabre_> #info Testing list sent to knome
15:10:15 <bluesabre_> and I haven't done anything with yelp yet
15:10:20 <bluesabre_> should I #info that?
15:10:22 * micahg is actually here
15:10:31 <pleia2> micahg: oh good, you're next ;)
15:10:39 <pleia2> bluesabre_: nah
15:11:04 <pleia2> bluesabre_: thanks!
15:11:09 <pleia2> micahg: lots of action items for you last time, any updates? :)
15:11:33 <micahg> I don't think so, let me check lie list
15:11:40 <micahg> s/lie/the/
15:12:27 <micahg> nope, the raring ISO grew another 1.5MB
15:13:32 <pleia2> ok, thanks
15:13:48 <micahg> I should have a little time this weekend, though not sure how much I can get through
15:14:05 <pleia2> :)
15:14:13 <micahg> I'll probably focus on ISO size if we have people willing to test
15:14:20 <micahg> otherwise, I'd rather work on the build failures
15:14:45 * pleia2 nods
15:14:46 <micahg> or bugs that need fixing in 12.04.2
15:14:58 <micahg> like exo helpers not working with Firefox apparmor enabled
15:15:16 * GridCube opinion is that file size its not that relevant anymore
15:15:57 <pleia2> ok, so I think we can poke around to see if there are testers about this weekend (I'd like to volunteer, but my weekend is packed this week)
15:16:22 <pleia2> otherwise.. do the otherwise :)
15:16:24 <micahg> even if we have testers, it's more if the ISO size makes a difference to the testers
15:16:32 * pleia2 nods
15:16:53 * micahg will brb
15:17:05 <pleia2> #topic Team updates
15:18:19 <pleia2> we adjusted the agenda a bit so we no longer are going through each team in a subtopic-y order
15:18:29 <pleia2> (we'll see how this goes :))
15:18:36 <ochosi> :)
15:18:43 <pleia2> so anyone who has updates, you can just #info MARKETING: foo
15:19:53 <ochosi> #info ARTWORK: i'm working on our icon-theme quite a bit lately, people can check the progress here: https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce
15:20:01 <pleia2> \o/
15:20:57 <ochosi> #info ARTWORK: people can test/use them in any of our releases (P,Q,R). i'll be soon trying to weed out useless icons and duplicates, so keeping the theme locally up-to-date to check whether icons go missing would be helpful testing for me
15:21:16 <pleia2> ochosi: are there instructions for testing them somewhere?
15:21:25 <ochosi> #action ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome
15:21:25 * meetingology ochosi to send testing-instructions to knome
15:21:31 <pleia2> :D
15:21:51 <bluesabre_> knome is going to have a nice big blog post to write soon
15:22:06 <ochosi> pleia2: well it's really simple, "cd ~/.icons && git clone https://github.com/shimmerproject/elementary-xfce.git"
15:22:11 <ochosi> and then "git pull" to update
15:22:22 <pleia2> yep, that's simple :)
15:22:29 <bluesabre_> and then the icon cache update, right?
15:22:30 <ochosi> (possibly "mkdir .icons" as a first command ;))
15:22:50 <ochosi> well, either i'll include that command in the instructions or i'll tell ppl to switch icon-themes back and forth
15:23:01 * pleia2 nods
15:23:28 <pleia2> #info DOCUMENTATION: We're going to push the documentation SRU for 12.04 to the .3 release (this summer) instead of trying to get it in for .2 (which is coming up quick)
15:24:07 <pleia2> #info DOCUMENTATION: We still don't have a docs lead, so if there is anyone interested in pitching in on docs for 13.04, please do :)
15:24:33 <pleia2> #info WEBSITE: Opened a few bugs to update screenshots on the site, which I'm planning on completing this week
15:24:49 <pleia2> #action pleia2 to complete outstanding screenshot update bugs
15:24:49 * meetingology pleia2 to complete outstanding screenshot update bugs
15:25:59 <pleia2> any development updates?
15:26:24 <pleia2> mr_pouit? :)
15:26:43 <bluesabre_> People are testing parole and reporting bugs, and we're fixing them :)
15:26:53 <ochosi> :)
15:27:01 <bluesabre_> menulibre too :D
15:27:04 <mr_pouit> Not much on my side, I only merged xfburn from debian I think
15:27:18 <mr_pouit> yeah, bluesabre and ochosi are more active these days ;P
15:27:25 <pleia2> :)
15:27:53 <olbi> are you planning to add xfce 4.12 if it be released at march?
15:28:17 <mr_pouit> we already have the latest thunar and exo in raring
15:28:52 <GridCube> what about the weather plugin?
15:28:53 <mr_pouit> Other components haven't been changed much for now, so I can't really tell
15:28:55 <micahg> Feature Freeze is Mar 7 IIRC
15:29:17 <micahg> I would think 4.12 would be targeted to 13.10
15:29:19 <mr_pouit> GridCube: 0.8.2 in raring right now
15:29:26 <ochosi> (btw, it's still another week to fosdem, but i might bring up the topic of a gtk3-compilable panel again there)
15:29:44 <micahg> please, that would fix our indicator problem at least
15:30:16 <GridCube> but 0.8.3 is to be released soon and it had lots of work apparently
15:30:49 <mr_pouit> GridCube: if it's released before feature freeze, no problem really :)
15:31:05 <GridCube> also, "Please note that 0.8.2 is actually unsupported because it's gradually falling apart, so better don't spend any more time on it.
15:31:11 <mr_pouit> (panel plugins an other goodies have their own release schedule)
15:31:14 <ochosi> i met hjudt for lunch today, i can motivate him to release it before ff ;)
15:31:19 <mr_pouit> *and other
15:31:48 <GridCube> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/xfce-i18n/2013-January/008324.html
15:31:50 <ochosi> but i have to admit that it partly depends on me having enough time to complete the new icon-set for it
15:33:33 <pleia2> ok, any other updates?
15:34:30 <pleia2> #topic Announcements
15:35:26 <pleia2> any announcements? :)
15:35:55 <GridCube> not from me
15:36:11 <bluesabre_> none from me
15:36:28 <ochosi> same here
15:37:16 <pleia2> ok
15:37:21 <pleia2> #topic Any other business
15:37:28 <pleia2> anything else at all?
15:37:42 <pleia2> I'm thinking we do another meeting in 2 weeks, same bat time/place
15:37:45 <GridCube> o/
15:37:53 <bluesabre_> sounds good to me
15:38:04 <GridCube> i have an idea
15:38:09 <pleia2> GridCube: go for it
15:38:10 <frustratedtech> I just want to chime in that I'm loving Xubuntu and I've been spending my sparetime trying to help others.  I just loaded up Xubuntu last week and am diving in full force. :D
15:38:34 <bluesabre_> awesome
15:38:36 <bluesabre_> :)
15:38:44 <GridCube> what if we make a deviantart group for xubuntu users and ask them to submit screenshots and wallpapers and such
15:39:06 <bluesabre_> I like this idea
15:39:10 <ochosi> frustratedtech: if you wanna help the project in any are feel free to help with whatever you can
15:39:24 <ochosi> yeah, dA is not a bad place for that
15:39:28 <frustratedtech> GridCube, no offense to the xfce-look guy, but I cannot stand that website.  As a web designer I can't handle it nor send people there.
15:39:29 <pleia2> I think the reason we didn't typically is they wouldn't be default on the CD (no space)
15:39:55 <pleia2> but if we could get a volunteer to make a separate package for them installable later, and people are ok with non-default
15:40:00 <ochosi> pleia2: yeah, but this can simply be a group (as in: collection), no strings attached
15:40:34 <pleia2> screenshots are good too though, last cycle we thought about a "this is my Xubuntu" sort of page for the website to show off how people are changing it for their needs
15:40:53 <GridCube> yes, but dA manages it better
15:41:02 <ochosi> pleia2: yeah, we could maybe take a feed from dA for that
15:41:10 <GridCube> we could make friends with the ubuntu-users group to
15:41:18 <pleia2> ochosi: don't want an unmoderated feed
15:41:25 <pleia2> people use crazy things as desktop backgrounds :x
15:41:28 <ochosi> GridCube: do you wanna moderate the xubuntu-group on dA?
15:41:29 <GridCube> it can be easily moderated
15:41:29 <bluesabre_> lol
15:41:30 <GridCube> i can do
15:41:32 <GridCube> it
15:41:45 <ochosi> pleia2: there you go ^ ;) (so it wouldn't be unmoderated)
15:41:45 <pleia2> then maybe cherry-pick ones to put on the site directly?
15:41:48 <pleia2> \o/
15:41:50 <ochosi> yeah, why not
15:41:57 <GridCube> sure
15:42:00 <ochosi> GridCube: and remember, no naked ladies! ;)
15:42:16 <pleia2> #action GridCube to create and moderate xubuntu-group on deviantart
15:42:16 * meetingology GridCube to create and moderate xubuntu-group on deviantart
15:42:16 <frustratedtech> Who is in charge of the overall design of the xubuntu website?
15:42:17 <GridCube> o.o but... but... its deviantart
15:42:30 <GridCube> ok no nakkid ladies
15:42:34 <GridCube> :)
15:42:38 <pleia2> yeah, have to keep it CoC-friendly if it's to be an official resource
15:42:41 <pleia2> (no naked anyones)
15:43:03 <pleia2> GridCube: can you also add me as a moderator? (we always have at least two for our social media-y things, in case of buses)
15:43:06 <GridCube> will do, you can create a simple toc for the joining members
15:43:12 <GridCube> sure pleia2
15:43:23 <pleia2> (I won't actually do anything, just in case of emergency)
15:43:28 * pleia2 checks if she has an account
15:43:40 <mr_pouit> (no naked ringtail either)
15:43:46 <ochosi> awwwh
15:44:16 <pleia2> hehe
15:44:45 <pleia2> thanks GridCube!
15:44:48 <pleia2> anything else?
15:44:51 <GridCube> :) no problem
15:44:52 * micahg disappears for a while
15:45:01 <bluesabre_> frustratedtech, the theme is a knome-original
15:45:01 <olbi> bye all :) going home :]
15:45:23 <pleia2> GridCube: didn't have an account, but now I do as pleia2!
15:45:30 <GridCube> :)
15:45:36 <frustratedtech> bluesabre, I wouldn't mind getting in touch with them to help it out.
15:45:44 <pleia2> frustratedtech: yay, thanks!
15:46:05 <pleia2> frustratedtech: re: website, I'm the website lead and knome is our designer and main webdev
15:46:16 <pleia2> so knome is in charge of design
15:46:54 <frustratedtech> pleia2, nice.  I've being doing design for 15 years so I'd love to help in some way.
15:47:15 <ochosi> frustratedtech: if you wanna draw icons that'd be welcome ;)
15:47:45 <pleia2> frustratedtech: fungi> i can help you get the user added for that when the time comes to start testing
15:47:48 <pleia2> oops
15:47:53 <GridCube> isnt the lightdm theme javascript/xml based?
15:47:56 <pleia2> frustratedtech: https://code.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website
15:48:06 <pleia2> ^^ that's the code for the website
15:48:16 <pleia2> and outstanding bugs under the "bugs" link
15:48:24 <pleia2> it's wordpress
15:49:06 <mr_pouit> GridCube: css I think (it's gtk3 theming)
15:49:22 <frustratedtech> pleia2, ok.  get with me in private so I can help with getting these done.
15:49:42 <pleia2> frustratedtech: can you drop me an email? lyz@ubuntu.com (right after this I'm off to work :))
15:49:55 <frustratedtech> sure
15:51:12 <GridCube> mr_pouit, mmmhm ok
15:51:22 <pleia2> ok, anything else before we wrap up?
15:51:58 <GridCube> not from me
15:52:24 <pleia2> ok, thanks for coming everyone, and it was nice to see some new faces!
15:52:41 <bluesabre_> have fun at work pleia2
15:52:56 <pleia2> always do :)
15:53:35 <GridCube> pleia2, this is the most active ubuntu group on deviantART, http://ubuntu-artists.deviantart.com/
15:53:58 <pleia2> GridCube: yeah, I think that's the one doctormo moderates?
15:54:09 <pleia2> yeah
15:54:28 <pleia2> ok, we'll finish up then
15:54:30 <pleia2> #endmeeting