18:00 <belkinsa> #startmeeting Oct 2014 Meeting 18:00 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Oct 14 18:00:27 2014 UTC. The chair is belkinsa. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 18:00 <meetingology> 18:00 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 18:00 <belkinsa> Who is here for the meeting? 18:00 <Mikaela> o/ 18:01 <pleia2> o/ 18:01 <akk> o/ 18:02 <belkinsa> Anyone else? 18:02 <belkinsa> Okay 18:02 <belkinsa> Agenda is here: http://wiki.ubuntu-women.org/Meetings/October2014/Agenda 18:03 <belkinsa> The first topic is not on it since I forgot to add it. 18:03 <belkinsa> #topic UOS 14.11 18:03 <amani_glugcal> o/ 18:04 <belkinsa> The Ubuntu Online Submit is Nov 12 to 14th and I have already added our session to my list of tracks to run for the Community track. Is it possible to plan the time for it now? 18:05 <pleia2> in the past we've replaced our monthly meeting with an UOS event, so it we could grab Tuesday at 18:00 that would be great :) 18:06 <pleia2> (it's the 3rd tuesday rather than 2nd, but that often happens) 18:06 <belkinsa> You mean the 12th? Not the 11th? 18:06 <pleia2> no wait, it is the 2nd 18:06 <pleia2> yeah, the 12th 18:06 <belkinsa> The UOS is Wed to Friday because of the US holiday. 18:06 <pleia2> hmm 18:06 <pleia2> ah right 18:06 <belkinsa> So, will Wed the 12 at 18 UTC work than? 18:07 <belkinsa> then* 18:07 <pleia2> wfm 18:07 <belkinsa> WFM? 18:07 <pleia2> works for me 18:08 <pleia2> technically that will begin my first cycle I'm taking off, so I won't participate on video and will just kind of lurk in case anyone needs me for anything 18:08 <belkinsa> Ah. I will set that as for us. 18:08 <belkinsa> Alright, I will host it. 18:08 <belkinsa> I can, rather. 18:10 <belkinsa> Are we settled then on this matter? 18:10 <belkinsa> #action belkinsa Set the session for 1800 UTC on Nov 12th. 18:10 * meetingology belkinsa Set the session for 1800 UTC on Nov 12th. 18:13 <belkinsa> Moving on. 18:13 <belkinsa> #topic Blueprint for Utopic cycle: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-women.org/+spec/community-1406-ubuntu-women 18:14 <belkinsa> I have no updates of my items. 18:14 <pleia2> please give away my harvest item 18:14 <pleia2> I'm sorry I haven't gotten to it, just overestimated the time I'd have :( 18:14 <pleia2> so if anyone else wants: Review Harvest bugs https://bugs.launchpad.net/harvest 18:15 <belkinsa> I can take it since I have to do it, but I will wait for the Haverst Item first 18:15 <pleia2> the procedure will be browsing through all those bugs and identifying a few ones that either: look easy, look useful, look important; so we can give that list to our developer volunteers 18:15 <pleia2> thanks 18:16 <belkinsa> Not a poblem. 18:16 <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, do you have an update on your item? 18:16 <amani_glugcal> I think work is going on 18:16 <belkinsa> Alright. 18:17 <amani_glugcal> Emma is doing the specs added to that 18:17 <amani_glugcal> the ggogle doc 18:18 <belkinsa> Which one? Is it shared between you two? 18:18 <amani_glugcal> the common one 18:18 <amani_glugcal> discussed on mailing list 18:19 <belkinsa> For the quiz? 18:19 <amani_glugcal> yes 18:19 <amani_glugcal> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Ds5VKE9Dj-mYJnJ459YQk9DDdJ_ihZFJT-23jr4XV9c/edit?usp=sharing 18:19 <belkinsa> One sec 18:19 <belkinsa> #topic Orientation quiz discussion 18:20 <belkinsa> As most of the mailing list knows we have updated some of the parts of the quiz 18:22 <belkinsa> It has expended but we still have to work to do. 18:22 <amani_glugcal> yes 18:23 <amani_glugcal> my suggestion was to make it 18:23 <amani_glugcal> at different complexity 18:23 <amani_glugcal> levels 18:24 <amani_glugcal> the easier ones get done first 18:25 <belkinsa> I see and but it needs to branch to since people have different skills. 18:25 <belkinsa> As it does now. 18:27 <amani_glugcal> We can also add things that are done at gnewsense 18:27 <amani_glugcal> in advocacy 18:27 <belkinsa> Yeah. 18:28 <belkinsa> Science too. 18:30 <belkinsa> Which I do need restart the team for science 18:30 <amani_glugcal> that list is very inactive 18:31 <belkinsa> Yeah, it's my fault for letting the team down. 18:31 <belkinsa> Ubuntu Leadership too 18:32 <amani_glugcal> how do we motivate science people in specific domains? 18:32 <amani_glugcal> user base is big 18:33 <pleia2> belkinsa: I wouldn't put it all on yourself, it's hard to get teams going and it's the responsibility of everyone involved, not just the leader :) 18:33 <belkinsa> I don't know. Maybe we could ask the Scientists team that? 18:33 <belkinsa> pleia2, I know. 18:33 <elizabethporras> hi, i am sorry for The late. I am from Colombia, and I would love to participate and involve people from my country. 18:33 <pleia2> welcome elizabethporras :) 18:34 <belkinsa> Welcome, elizabethporras. 18:35 <elizabethporras> thanks plei2 and belkinsa 18:36 <amani_glugcal> but making the sci people contribute needs a broader team 18:37 <amani_glugcal> welcome elizabethporras 18:38 <akk> What kind of contribution are you trying to get from science people? 18:39 <amani_glugcal> improving all projects that they actually use/ customize/ hack_and_stop_at_that 18:40 <amani_glugcal> Example: people write lot of LaTeX Customizations but they don't take it seriously 18:41 <amani_glugcal> happens often in machine learning 18:41 <amani_glugcal> too 18:42 <belkinsa> Right. 18:43 <belkinsa> Should we take this to the mailing-list? 18:43 <amani_glugcal> of courseyes 18:43 <akk> It would be great to see discussions like that on the ML. 18:44 <belkinsa> #Action Move what we talked about to ML 18:44 * meetingology Move what we talked about to ML 18:44 <belkinsa> #topic ProjectHarvest Updates 18:45 <belkinsa> I was thinking about doing a sprint for the bugs that it has. 18:46 <belkinsa> What do you think? 18:48 <elizabethporras> yesterday I saw The Project Harvest page.... I am not pretty sure but The bugs that are linked not always are upate... I mean i clicked on a bug and when i was redirected to launchpad The bug had already been fixed. 18:49 <belkinsa> They are old since the Harvest is not development 18:50 <belkinsa> And that's why took it up as a project. 18:51 <belkinsa> And we need to sort out the old bugs to start the process of redevelopment 18:51 <elizabethporras> well... I think that here from Colombia some people can colaborate... including me... is a specific methodology? 18:52 <amani_glugcal> do u have a loco 18:52 <belkinsa> loco.ubuntu.com 18:52 <amani_glugcal> local ubuntu team in columbia 18:52 <elizabethporras> yes 18:53 <elizabethporras> Ubuntu Colombia 18:53 <belkinsa> How active are they? 18:53 <amani_glugcal> how many women? 18:53 <elizabethporras> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-co 18:53 <elizabethporras> active women 3 18:54 <belkinsa> Who are they, if you can answer that? 18:54 <elizabethporras> in fact, toda y i am here un orden to learn and motivate 18:55 <elizabethporras> The 3 of us... are systems engineers... 18:55 <belkinsa> Ah. 18:55 <elizabethporras> dont remember right The specific profile links un launchpad.... 18:56 <belkinsa> Okay, when do will want to the sprint for the bugs? 18:56 <elizabethporras> sorry.... for The autocorrection of my tablet 18:56 <belkinsa> And how to do it. 18:57 <elizabethporras> well... i think thta could be in a weekend 18:58 <belkinsa> That could work or on a weekday night UTC 18:58 <elizabethporras> maybe October 25.... and well... maybe you can suggest a methodology 18:58 <elizabethporras> mmm here doesnt work,.. cause here in Colombia is afternoon... 18:59 <belkinsa> Sure, via the ML or we can work on out via it also. 18:59 <elizabethporras> we are gmt -5 18:59 <belkinsa> Same here. 18:59 <belkinsa> EST? 18:59 <elizabethporras> we don use that time... just gmt -5 18:59 <belkinsa> Okay. I understand. 19:00 <elizabethporras> sure through the ML... 19:00 <belkinsa> Can I take this to the ML for more talk about this since we have more on it? 19:00 <belkinsa> #action Set up a sprint for the bugs 19:00 * meetingology Set up a sprint for the bugs 19:01 <elizabethporras> right 19:01 <belkinsa> #topic Any other business (AOB) 19:01 <belkinsa> ANyone? 19:02 <elizabethporras> I want to know... well I ask you for support in order to get more involved from my LoCo 19:03 <belkinsa> Sure, I can help you. I can cc the thread from UW ML to your's ML. 19:03 <elizabethporras> in the Ubuntu Women project 19:03 <belkinsa> Yeah, I was talking about both ML 19:03 <belkinsa> Your LoCo's. 19:04 <elizabethporras> well... I dont know if that is the best way... maybe.. I Think that if we can colaborate more... it is the way 19:05 <belkinsa> Okay, I'm very good in community work here in the COmmunity. this could work. 19:06 <elizabethporras> our LoCo mailing list recieves lots f mails... and I dont want that information mixed, cause I want it focused... having in mind that we are few womens... 19:06 <belkinsa> Then can I have those e-mails, via PM? 19:06 <elizabethporras> right 19:07 <amani_glugcal> I hope they are on UW ML? 19:07 <belkinsa> +1 19:07 <elizabethporras> yes i am 19:07 <belkinsa> How about they two? 19:07 <belkinsa> the wto others? 19:07 <elizabethporras> I am in the mailing 19:07 <elizabethporras> dont know if they are there 19:08 <belkinsa> Okay. 19:08 <elizabethporras> they collaborate but I want to involve them in this level 19:08 <amani_glugcal> We need more publicity of G+ UW 19:09 <elizabethporras> *colaborate in our community... 19:09 <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, +1 19:09 <amani_glugcal> for 19:09 <amani_glugcal> I will send invites outside group 19:10 <belkinsa> #action amani_glugcal Send G+ (outside) invites to the UW group 19:10 * meetingology amani_glugcal Send G+ (outside) invites to the UW group 19:11 <belkinsa> Any other matters? 19:11 <elizabethporras> from here, no 19:11 <belkinsa> Okay, anyone else? 19:12 <belkinsa> Safe to end meeting? 19:12 <Mikaela> link to G+ UW group? 19:13 <pleia2> it's a Page, not a group 19:13 <belkinsa> http://identi.ca/ubuntuwomen 19:13 <pleia2> belkinsa: that's not active 19:13 <belkinsa> Wait, wrong one 19:14 <amani_glugcal> https://plus.google.com/108721264946100842986/posts 19:14 <amani_glugcal> community 19:14 <pleia2> we lost the password when they did their change in authentication because we didn't have an email attached to it 19:14 <belkinsa> Who was the power to remove the link on the blog? 19:14 <pleia2> just just a page, not community/group - only admins can post things to it 19:14 <pleia2> belkinsa: you :) 19:14 <amani_glugcal> I am an admin 19:15 <belkinsa> Not a problem 19:15 <pleia2> belkinsa: log in to the blog, navigate to "links" 19:15 <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, want to remove ii? 19:15 <pleia2> delete the identica one 19:15 <pleia2> amani_glugcal does not have access to the blog 19:15 <pleia2> she was talking about G+ :) 19:15 <belkinsa> Oh, then I will do it 19:16 <belkinsa> #action belkinsa remove that Identica link on UW Blog 19:16 * meetingology belkinsa remove that Identica link on UW Blog 19:17 <pleia2> just to be clear with G+, only admins can post to it, it's not a community which anyone can post to, we can create one of those too but they are different things 19:17 <pleia2> I don't think randomly inviting admins to our G+ page is a very good idea 19:17 <Mikaela> Should someone create it now so it gets to meeting log? 19:17 <belkinsa> It will log it 19:17 <belkinsa> meetingology does 19:17 <meetingology> belkinsa: Error: "does" is not a valid command. 19:18 <Mikaela> I mean G+ group 19:18 <amani_glugcal> so do we create a UW icommunity for 19:18 <Mikaela> and link 19:18 <amani_glugcal> interaction 19:18 <pleia2> if you want, but we also have a facebook group that no one updates, and a forum no one uses, so I'd advise caution before creating yet another thing 19:18 <amani_glugcal> people can subscribe to current one 19:19 <Mikaela> I see 19:19 <pleia2> https://www.facebook.com/groups/ubuntuwomen/ 19:19 <pleia2> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=76 19:20 <pleia2> I'm not trying to be discouraging, but historically we haven't really had long term volunteers to keep these sorts of things going, which is why we really only have announce-only pages/accounts 19:20 <belkinsa> pleia2, no one really uses the forums. 19:20 <pleia2> belkinsa: or the facebook group (we do use the facebook page), that's my point exactly 19:21 <belkinsa> So, it seems that we are more IRC, ML based? 19:21 <amani_glugcal> But on G+ we have a few active members 19:21 <pleia2> amani_glugcal: yeah, there are a few folks who comment 19:21 <Mikaela> I am not sure about ML, but IRC seems to have had a little activity lately. 19:21 <pleia2> but that's a different thing than maintaining a G+ community, where the community creates content 19:22 <belkinsa> IRC has been quiet always for our group 19:22 <amani_glugcal> yes... it would be mostly announce + little more discussions 19:22 <belkinsa> amani_glugcal, for G+? Sure. 19:23 <amani_glugcal> yes for G+ 19:24 <belkinsa> #action amani_glugcal Post more content on G+ UW group 19:24 * meetingology amani_glugcal Post more content on G+ UW group 19:25 <belkinsa> Are we set 19:27 <belkinsa> If so, thank you for coming. 19:27 <pleia2> thanks for chairing belkinsa :) 19:27 <belkinsa> #endmeeting