#title #ubuntu-us-tn Meeting Meeting started by cyberanger at 01:35:19 UTC. The full logs are available at http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-us-tn/2012/ubuntu-us-tn.2012-02-03-01.35.log.html . == Meeting summary == ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/~orias (binarymutant, 02:39:54) ''LINK:'' https://launchpad.net/~oriasgeneric (cyberanger, 02:40:01) *renew our domain ''ACCEPTED:'' renew our domain (cyberanger, 03:01:53) ''ACCEPTED:'' renew our domain (cyberanger, 03:01:59) Meeting ended at 03:04:40 UTC. == Votes == * cyberanger as East TN POC For: 3 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * cyberanger as trustee For: 2 Against: 0 Abstained: 1 * extend west tn poc's (orias & Svpernova09) current terms another 6 months, or until a member seeks the position For: 3 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 * ]Wrst as Middle TN POC For: 3 Against: 0 Abstained: 0 == Action items == * (none) == People present (lines said) == * cyberanger (163) * binarymutant (99) * meetingology (35) * average_guy (33) * techMiles (14) * chris4585 (2) * Unit193 (1) == Full Log == 01:35:19 #startmeeting 01:35:19 Meeting started Fri Feb 3 01:35:19 2012 UTC. The chair is cyberanger. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 01:35:19 01:35:19 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 01:35:34 Juzzy: here? 01:35:36 us 3* 01:35:40 netritious: here? 01:35:47 orias: here? 01:35:51 pace_t_zulu: here? 01:35:55 Svpernova09: here? 01:35:59 techMiles: here? 01:36:12 Unit193: Here? (please say yes) 01:36:28 Ubik: Here? (please say yes) 01:36:28 I am sorry but I am not 01:36:36 our next meetingbot should have a massping plugin :D 01:36:45 & wrst isn't (other meeting) 01:37:16 binarymutant: I've got one here, but I've limited it's usage still 01:37:22 pleia2: here? 01:37:30 chris4585: here? 01:38:23 (and that's why, it calls everybody unless explictly told not to, hence meetingology 01:38:27 isn't called) 01:38:28 cyberanger, hey 01:38:59 chris4585: meeting time mate, good to see ya 01:39:59 pulling up the minutes & adgenda 01:40:30 hey 01:42:03 seems for some reason we have two adgenda's, opps 01:42:31 what's the other other? 01:42:36 other one* 01:43:19 Election night right? 01:43:33 average_guy: yes, and an additional item 01:44:19 binarymutant: it seems two were created, pace created one back in august (I guess as a reminder for the election) and one more detailed, with who was nominated, written by wrst 01:44:31 and it is looking like us, isn't it 01:44:38 ah so same thing, different words 01:45:08 binarymutant: pretty much, pace_t_zulu's was written in august, says election for 6 month terms 01:45:17 wrst's is linked in topic 01:45:37 most of the nominations aren't here... 01:45:53 3 out of 4 aren't 01:46:07 ack - 4 out of 5 aren't 01:47:13 3 out of 5 01:47:22 average_guy & myself 01:47:42 average_guy: what's your other nick? :D 01:47:54 rfinley 01:48:04 now wrst & I spoke earlier, he is running, but we can't vote him in with only one vote (his) can we? 01:48:26 Why not? 01:48:37 yeah I'm not sure why not 01:48:38 is there a challenger cyberanger ? 01:48:52 sorry, my mistake, average_guy is in east tn, but it's acidburn I'm thinking of for east tn nominations 01:49:05 ah 01:49:12 Now yer makin sence 01:49:27 Trustee: Zach Gibbens (cyberanger) 01:49:29 West TN POC: Claudio Donndelinger (orias) Joe(Svpernova09) 01:49:31 Middle TN POC: Wesley Stout (wrst) 01:49:33 East TN POC: Justin Strickland (acidfrost), Zach Gibbens (cyberanger) 01:50:04 * cyberanger now wonders why he mixed up acidfrost for acidburn, two very different nicks 01:50:21 been watching Hackers? 01:50:32 lawl 01:51:08 what happened to acidfrost, haven't seen him in a few 01:51:49 well, he nominated him on his first meeting, before anyone told him about the job, my guess... 01:52:06 lol oops 01:52:27 nope, hadn't seen hackers in awhile 01:52:53 well, since it's just us atm, best I bring up the other item, case people roll in here 01:53:13 ah I'm here sorry. 01:53:14 our domain ubuntu-tennessee.org is up for renewal in 6 days 01:53:20 make that 5 days 01:53:27 techMiles: middle tn, yes? 01:53:31 West 01:53:54 really? hrm, idk why I was thinking middle. 01:54:05 yeah I'm near Memphis 01:54:23 wrst owns the domain (I think) 01:55:16 binarymutant: wrst renewed it last year, I have account access, so do some others 01:55:28 do we want to renew it? 01:55:29 how many hits? 01:55:48 good question, hadn't checked 01:56:10 did anyone put the google analytics on it? 01:58:34 I say if someone wants to donate the renewal cost ok, but if no one doesn't we should jump on a free service like tumblr or what have you 01:59:34 google analytics in a group like ours would fail, I prefer apache logs (which Svpernova09 I guess can access but not us) 02:00:31 why would it fail? It can tell hits and stuff ... 02:00:47 the logs work though 02:00:52 however, looking over the audit trail tool, I do see 25 hits today alone 02:01:07 binarymutant: disable javascript or block google-analytics.com 02:01:11 or both 02:01:42 this is the group that knows what analytics is & how to defeat it, the numbers will always be low 02:02:01 (( I likes it )) 02:02:02 now, most of those hits aren't bots 02:02:22 question: why that partic naming convention? 02:03:11 good question, ubuntu has done that for awhile, as for google, idk 02:03:57 tennesseeubuntu sounds... smoother? Ah well. I guess it's kinda like this channel. Focus, broadlocation, specific location. 02:04:00 binarymutant: I'd rather not create a tumblr site if we can't even maintain a free wiki (my fault too, just saying, fix what we have) 02:04:27 anybody want to go halvies with the domain renewal? 02:04:31 cyberanger: what we have costs money :/ 02:04:31 halvsies* 02:04:53 unbuntu.co is pretty maintained lol 02:05:06 techMiles: try that with georgia and it gets to be more of a mess, state or country 02:05:15 haha 02:05:22 binarymutant: via a bot & irc posts, but yes 02:05:44 I'd donate full domain renewal cost, but I don't get paid until a WEEK from tommorrow. 02:06:15 sorry fellas, I think I brought up the wrong point in the topic 02:06:28 it's not a cost issue, it's a content issue 02:06:43 I'd love to post to it, but am not allowed 02:06:51 the domain itself is covered 02:06:56 cool 02:07:03 Ahh. 02:07:04 binarymutant: really, username binarymutant yes? 02:07:21 yeah that's what I would use 02:07:29 idk if I've registered or not 02:07:55 well, try and login 02:08:12 I can't help if you don't tell me, and I can't help if you don't register 02:08:22 did you tell anyone else that you can't post? 02:08:33 ah no I haven't tried yet 02:08:42 on it now ** 02:09:46 cyberanger: registration is turned off 02:09:59 * cyberanger wonders who did that 02:10:01 ruhroh connection probs 02:10:35 woot 02:11:24 average_guy: you here? 02:11:26 sorry 12.04 feeling crashy what did I miss? 02:11:42 average_guy: nothing really 02:11:49 registration is turned off on the site 02:11:52 ok, umm, one more ping list 02:12:07 binarymutant: fixing it as we speak 02:12:15 sweet thanks 02:12:17 Juzzy: you here 02:12:21 netritious: you here 02:12:26 orias: you here 02:12:30 pace_t_zulu: you here 02:12:36 Svpernova09: you here 02:12:47 Ubik: you here 02:14:25 ok, well, does anyone want to add any additional nominations? 02:14:50 I'd like to do away with regional poc's 02:14:55 #agreed 02:15:04 * cyberanger throws binarymutant a scobby snack 02:15:16 why? 02:15:55 I don't see the reason for them anymore. I also think our active membership isn't as active as some think 02:16:01 because most of our communication takes place here on IRC 02:16:27 some go by the number on our launchpad page, which is large. But our communication is mostly through irc. Our meetings through irc, etc. 02:16:41 average_guy: agreed 02:17:54 we need regional poc's if our actual membership was large enough to have face-to-face meetings 02:18:18 well, what do you all propose (and why didn't this get covered last meeting?_ 02:18:32 cyberanger: I missed last one sorry 02:18:58 I believe the notion was voiced 02:19:01 we could wait on this issue, it's just something that's been on my mind which I've expressed before 02:20:01 If we were having lots of local events it would be necessary 02:20:18 ya 02:21:13 I don't think we should decide a major change without more members being in this irc meeting though :/ 02:22:29 We do need to start having some local events tho 02:22:36 Ubuntu hours 02:22:46 well, leadership itself is a major change, and if your reason for changing it is lack of memebers? 02:23:11 yeah 02:23:28 honestly, I'm not for disbanding leadership positions, I'm for getting leaders who will put events in motion 02:23:43 #agreed 02:23:59 absolutely nothing has happened since I joined 02:24:01 so It'll be noted for next meeting, but in the mean time, let's move on 02:24:09 cyberanger: yeah we've been through this debate before :D 02:25:18 I think some of it is poor time for a meeting (I have an ubuntu hour here in town every thursday, followed by youth church service which uses ubuntu, my way of pushing ubuntu, it maybe members can't make it on thursdays) 02:25:40 we could change the time maybe? 02:25:57 or maybe do it through email or whatever 02:26:09 binarymutant: if you stick it on the list (as I will that bit above) I think some changes need to happen of course, but slowly, via the list to see where things stand too 02:26:43 average_guy: I was actually trying to encourage a knoxville meetup almost a month ago when I was in knoxville for two weeks, no bite 02:27:09 Really? I am always down 02:27:19 sorry I missed out cyberanger 02:27:21 west has had way more meets 02:28:02 binarymutant: actually, that shifted when you unplugged you modem to east tn 02:28:19 really? that's cool 02:28:24 but barely (I had no car for most that time, but rented or borrowed to shift that) 02:28:44 and if you all wanted, I'm game for one in alcoa next friday 02:29:37 maybe :D 02:29:46 I'll be there 02:30:22 I've been to Alcoa once 02:30:25 but that we can handle another day I suppose, right now lets see about finishing up the meeting, we have enough to vote in east tn & trustee for sure (and I never heard acidfrost accept, and actually he seemed like he really didn't want it, not on his first meeting ever) 02:30:33 yeah 02:31:07 how do we vote without the nominations even being here? 02:31:33 well, wrst gave me his instructions for a proxy vote, and accepted his nomination 02:31:49 I'm here, that covers trustee, east & middle poc positions 02:32:01 and west? 02:32:04 I haven't heard from orias or Svpernova09 to know if they want to run even 02:32:13 if they accepted their nomination 02:32:19 lastseen ? 02:32:23 techMiles is here 02:32:48 I've seen them since the meeting, but this topic never came up 02:33:09 they are our current west tn poc's & orias has been active via launchpad 02:33:20 but work keeps him from irc I would guess 02:33:27 ah 02:34:03 I work a lot and have school... I'd love to help out more but really couldn't. 02:34:05 what's Svpernova09's launchpad account name? 02:34:30 good question, and he runs our site btw, his server 02:34:33 nm 02:34:42 the domain wrst & I covered over the years 02:34:43 it's the same :D 02:35:56 so it's not like they've up & left 02:36:26 yeah but I don't think I've ever talked with them at all... ( idk how to vote in West ) 02:36:38 ( and it's the only one that needs a vote ) 02:36:46 middle does 02:37:04 who's running against wrst? 02:37:30 but wrst accepted nomination for middle tn, he also told me he'd vote for himself (dunno how we've done proxy votes in the past) and is unopposed 02:37:37 and I'm unopposed too 02:38:04 west tn is unopposed, but haven't accepted their nominations (or declined them) 02:38:18 uh.. 02:38:38 acidfrost declined his nomination 02:38:49 last I heard 02:39:21 (oris & Svpernova09 both are west tn poc's as a team, hence why I say running unopposed) 02:39:31 oh ok 02:39:41 oris isn't in our team on launchpad :/ 02:39:46 orias* 02:39:47 yes he is 02:39:54 https://launchpad.net/~orias 02:40:01 https://launchpad.net/~oriasgeneric 02:40:04 ahhh 02:40:10 cool 02:40:17 and he's been approving members right & left, as has wrst 02:40:35 when it comes to launchpad, he's the only (current) poc that's on a roll there 02:40:45 (wrst isn't yet a poc) 02:40:55 I suggest this.... 02:40:57 can we change our team to an open one, that doesn't need approval? 02:41:03 *on launchpad 02:41:34 why? 02:41:48 why the need for approval? 02:41:54 if one vote is all it takes, then wrst has a vote (himself) 02:41:57 do we decline? 02:42:01 (his proxy) 02:42:13 binarymutant: once, one time declined 02:42:21 yeah ^ 02:42:25 since 09 02:42:37 oh didn't know that 02:42:48 for what? 02:43:25 a person who was stripped of his ubuntu membership and was part of some leadership conflicts (and wasn't living in tennessee) 02:43:49 I remember that 02:44:03 that wasn't really a decline though 02:44:18 but okay :D 02:44:23 it was when it involved the new account a year later 02:44:37 one that was the same person in new hampshire 02:44:58 idk, I barely remember it, and I didn't yet have lp controls 02:45:52 I remember that because no one had lp controls except for the guy who was no longer responding 02:46:27 yeah, but the decline was 9 months later than that 02:46:32 or something 02:47:02 anyway, here's what I propose, two votes, one, a renewal on west tn (since there isn't anyone to contest them either) if they don't want it they can resign, and if anyone else wants it, we hold an election at the next meeting 02:47:19 and a second vote for middle, east & the trustee 02:47:28 since we know the status on that 02:47:34 +1 02:47:43 average_guy: agreed? 02:47:56 agreed 02:48:31 which first? 02:48:45 isn't the poc supposed to be here :P 02:48:55 nice 02:49:33 binarymutant: for middle, wrst sent instructions for proxy votes & confirmed his nomination at least twice (last meeting & today), for west, idk 02:49:44 cyberanger: I meant pace 02:49:59 let's rock this vote, though (sorry for interrupting) 02:50:07 oh, as trustee, or middle tn poc (with wrst) 02:50:14 trustee 02:50:20 I forget the terms :D 02:51:04 when w4ett's term ran out, he was AWOL (ironically cause the army called him up and he couldn't share the news with us for months due to his orders) 02:51:35 when w4ett was elected as the trustee, the outgoing leader wasn't present 02:52:11 ah yeah 02:52:15 let's do it :D 02:52:33 so there is more history of them not being here, plus he didn't want to run last month, he didn't seek nomination for any posts 02:53:21 [vote] extend west tn poc's (orias & Svpernova09) current terms another 6 months, or until a member seeks the position 02:53:21 Please vote on: extend west tn poc's (orias & Svpernova09) current terms another 6 months, or until a member seeks the position 02:53:21 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 02:53:21 brb afk for a few 02:53:28 +1 02:53:28 +1 received from binarymutant 02:53:31 binarymutant: wanna vote first 02:53:33 +1 02:53:33 +1 received from average_guy 02:53:38 +1 02:53:38 +1 received from cyberanger 02:53:42 #endvote 02:53:42 Voting ended on: extend west tn poc's (orias & Svpernova09) current terms another 6 months, or until a member seeks the position 02:53:42 Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 02:53:42 Motion carried 02:54:04 [vote] cyberanger as East TN POC 02:54:04 Please vote on: cyberanger as East TN POC 02:54:04 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 02:54:07 +1 02:54:07 +1 received from average_guy 02:54:08 +1 02:54:08 +1 received from cyberanger 02:54:32 +1 02:54:32 +1 received from binarymutant 02:54:40 #endvote 02:54:40 Voting ended on: cyberanger as East TN POC 02:54:40 Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 02:54:40 Motion carried 02:54:56 [vote ]Wrst as Middle TN POC 02:54:56 Please vote on: ]Wrst as Middle TN POC 02:54:56 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 02:55:00 +1 02:55:00 +1 received from average_guy 02:55:01 +1 02:55:01 +1 received from cyberanger 02:55:14 hehe 02:55:17 +1 02:55:17 +1 received from binarymutant 02:55:18 lol 02:55:28 [wrst 02:56:00 technically that's only a middle tn vote, wrst gave me his proxy instructions hence my vote & nobody voted against, so all good I suppose 02:56:10 #endvote 02:56:10 Voting ended on: ]Wrst as Middle TN POC 02:56:10 Votes for:3 Votes against:0 Abstentions:0 02:56:10 Motion carried 02:56:16 we know 02:56:16 yeah, nice glitch 02:56:51 trustee? 02:56:52 average_guy: yeah, but I said it in the vote so meetingology would grab it as part of the vote (or at least that was mootbot's behaviour, hrm 02:57:17 well, moving on, either meetingology has that or not 02:57:29 [vote] cyberanger as trustee 02:57:30 Please vote on: cyberanger as trustee 02:57:30 Public votes can be registered by saying +1, +0 or -1 in channel, (private votes don't work yet, but when they do it will be by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to me) 02:57:34 +1 02:57:34 +1 received from binarymutant 02:57:40 +1 02:57:40 +1 received from average_guy 02:57:51 +0 02:57:51 +0 received from cyberanger 02:57:56 #endvote 02:57:56 Voting ended on: cyberanger as trustee 02:57:56 Votes for:2 Votes against:0 Abstentions:1 02:57:56 Motion carried 02:58:56 and for the website, one thought that came up outside the meeting was redirecting the domain to our wiki instead of our site (so we'd have an incentive to maintain the wiki & it'd give us one less thing to maintain 02:59:17 #agreed 02:59:26 but for the moment, too much to deal with as is, the domain will be renewed & I'll leave the site alone for now 02:59:45 gives us a good adgenda for next meeting 02:59:53 any objections? 03:00:40 (since the domain is for renewal, I can't table it) any objections to renewing the domain? 03:01:15 [topic] renew our domain 03:01:53 #accept renew our domain 03:01:59 #accepted renew our domain 03:02:10 any additional business? 03:02:17 wiki redirect _1 03:02:20 +1 ** 03:02:27 what happened to techMiles :P 03:02:31 afk for a few 03:02:33 I'm here, sorreh. 03:02:34 good question 03:02:38 #accepted renew our domain 03:02:44 binarymutant: do you disagree with renew our domain? 03:02:49 or +1. I haven't disagreed on anything thus far. 03:03:03 and if not, binarymutant can you #accept 03:03:35 eh, well, it's not his wallet I suppose 03:03:43 motion to adjourn 03:03:46 ? 03:04:01 #accept 03:04:06 oops 03:04:17 I agree though 03:04:24 I second 03:04:31 going going &.... 03:04:39 gone 03:04:40 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.1.5 (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)