01:49:41 #startmeeting 01:49:41 Meeting started Fri Jan 6 01:49:41 2012 UTC. The chair is cyberanger. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AlanBell/mootbot. 01:49:41 01:49:41 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 01:49:48 #chair pace_t_zulu 01:49:48 Current chairs: cyberanger pace_t_zulu 01:49:51 there 01:49:53 cyberanger: no and no thanks 01:49:57 #chair wrst 01:49:57 Current chairs: cyberanger pace_t_zulu wrst 01:50:07 * wrst scratches head 01:50:08 #link http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/160/detail/ 01:50:27 * pace_t_zulu gives up 01:50:30 let's just go 01:50:32 I nominate Svpernova09 01:50:34 so cyberanger you are nominated 01:50:44 ^for west tn poc 01:51:01 traditionally someone has to be here to accept the nomination ... but what can we do 01:51:14 pace_t_zulu: they can accept next month 01:51:29 i nominate wrst for middle tn poc 01:51:32 if they don't accept before the election, then yeah 01:51:59 I second both nominations & would like to nominate orias for west tn poc as well 01:52:28 i think orias is claudio ? right ? 01:52:45 orias: has been helpful in reguards to launchpad, adding new members 01:52:58 yeah then i'd second that 01:52:59 acidfrost: what region are you in? 01:52:59 acidfrost: I think orias approved claudio's membership 01:53:09 i'm east TN 01:53:16 east if I recall, maryville right acidfrost ? 01:53:19 yeah 01:53:36 orias is claudio 01:53:41 Svpernova09: is joe 01:53:45 http://www.ubuntu-tennessee.org/leadership/ 01:53:48 technically louisville but knoxville claims our airport and we are technically in maryville so its all messed up 01:53:51 oh, right 01:54:05 acidfrost: yeah, binarymutant & myself understand that mess 01:54:06 i nominate acidfrost for east tn poc 01:54:12 ?? 01:54:27 i'm not really sure what that entails care to explain ? 01:54:37 and cyberanger aren't you east ? 01:54:42 point of contact 01:54:53 in fairness, I'd think somebody who's been a longer member might be a better fit, however I don't disapprove either 01:55:03 ^my point 01:55:09 acidfrost: basically a regional director, under the trustee 01:55:10 cyberanger: i was thinking w you be trustee 01:55:16 i welcome new blood 01:55:20 we need it badly 01:55:23 yes, average_guy binarymutant & myself 01:55:35 no offense to all the old salts 01:55:39 somebody is longer is more deserving but if no one else is available i don't mind filling in 01:55:56 i'd nominate binarymutant 01:55:59 for east tn poc 01:56:00 pace_t_zulu: we do, but we also may want to let people know what we're nominating them for & let them be members for some time 01:56:13 long enough to see that they want the job 01:56:15 no problem 01:56:28 vs giving them it before explaining it 01:56:35 i feel obliged to rescind my nomination of acidfrost 01:56:50 not that i don't want it i'm just kinda freaked out that you'd out of the blue pick a new member 01:57:14 as I said, I don't disapprove, but acidfrost wasn't even aware of what a poc is, we got a month, we can nominate next month too 01:57:17 i believe binarymutant has been here longer right? i'd nominate him 01:57:32 acidfrost: its not a big deal at all 01:57:35 acidfrost: oh yes, the first east tn poc, followed by myself 01:57:57 cyberanger: i recall last time he wasn't keen 01:58:09 but my memory may be incorrect 01:58:09 and we've had one person hold both trustee & poc before, not that that's desired, but it's happened 01:58:21 so lets review who we've nominated ... 01:58:23 pace_t_zulu: no, I think it's correct last we heard 01:58:27 ok so if cyberanger is east then i nominate him and binarymutant for east tn poc 01:58:30 trustee: cyberanger 01:58:36 west tn: orias Svpernova09 01:58:43 middle tn: wrst 01:58:47 correct 01:58:53 east tn: acidfrost 01:58:59 any to add to east tn? 01:59:04 cyberanger, ? 01:59:07 cyberanger: you interested? 01:59:08 east tn is oppen 01:59:23 you recinded, yes? 01:59:32 i did not 01:59:45 if acidfrost doesn't want to do it ... no problem 01:59:56 its whatever you guys decide 01:59:58 this isn't an old boys club 02:00:18 if no one else objects 02:00:33 acidfrost: you can decline next meeting 02:00:33 pace_t_zulu: look up, "I feel obliged to rescind my nomination of acidfrost " 02:00:45 cyberanger: that was a feeling ... not an action 02:00:47 just to clarify then, you are keeping your nomination 02:00:49 ok 02:00:51 indeed 02:01:01 acidfrost: think it over ... no big deal 02:01:02 if cyberanger wants it he can have it :P 02:01:06 acidfrost: think about it, ask, we have a month 02:01:17 alright 02:01:19 I'm keeping that thought open, focusing on the trustee bit 02:01:30 acidfrost: plenty of us here have been a poc at one point 02:01:35 * average_guy does not care who the POC is 02:01:36 yep 02:01:52 * wrst volunteers to get to it on the mailing list 02:01:52 * acidfrost feels the same as average_guy 02:02:07 wrst: go for it 02:02:13 well this raises a good point 02:02:21 do we need PoCs? 02:02:21 my bit was the fact nobody covered the job description when you were nominated, kinda helps to know what you say yes to 02:02:43 cyberanger, yeah 02:02:52 pace_t_zulu: I think so, or at least some sort of advisors 02:03:11 not really pace_t_zulu, this is our general mode of communication 02:03:14 pace_t_zulu: i wonder if we need them regionally, or need the trustee and maybe some helpers 02:03:17 and we are always all here 02:03:26 everyone is here to help 02:03:29 so for this moment, keep the poc bit, restructure what that means perhaps 02:03:37 i'm not sure designates are necessary ... 02:03:55 cyberanger: i think for this round be best to keep the status quo then maybe make that a focus of a future meeting? 02:03:56 but if the group feels differently - i'm fine w PoCs 02:04:07 wrst: exactly 02:04:35 so continue with PoCs 02:04:40 bueno 02:04:41 the status quo for now, and let the new pocs resolve some of that awkardness during their ter 02:04:43 but pace_t_zulu i'm with you i think we should take a look at that 02:04:53 nominations are as follows 02:04:59 trustee: cyberanger 02:05:06 west: orias Svpernova09 02:05:07 it's helped for our local efforts, jfenn2199 proved that by efforts with the city of memphis 02:05:11 middle: wrst 02:05:14 cyberanger how far are you from alcoa highway ? 02:05:17 east tn: acidfrost 02:05:19 my efforts with chattacon 02:05:28 has anyone else been nominated? 02:05:33 acidfrost: on avg, 78 miles 02:05:43 oh ouch 02:05:54 my family is 20 miles in blount county 02:06:06 I'm closer to chattanooga than knoxville 02:06:14 ahh ok 02:06:14 cyberanger, acidfrost ... can we continue w the meeting? 02:06:26 sorry to interrupt :/ 02:06:36 pace_t_zulu, yeah i was just wondering (pertains to acceptance versus non) 02:06:37 pace_t_zulu: that was relevant to the east tn nomination I feel, but yes 02:06:55 cyberanger, yeah it was 02:06:56 cyberanger: apologies 02:07:08 is acidfrost the only nominee for east tn then? 02:07:26 pace_t_zulu: I reserve the right to add to that, but at present, think so 02:07:30 I nominate cyberanger as i don't want to be the only one running 02:07:38 add cyberanger to the list 02:07:43 east: acidfrost cyberanger 02:07:47 #agree 02:07:49 fair enough 02:07:51 #agree 02:07:51 #agreed 02:07:56 #agreed 02:07:59 #agreed 02:08:06 fuck you meetingology 02:08:10 haha 02:08:15 i knew that was coming 02:08:20 * cyberanger needs to tweak the level of silence on meetingology 02:08:38 * pace_t_zulu wants to kickban meetingology 02:08:42 I told it to shut up, and it listened, an improvement over mootbot 02:08:49 but i won't 02:08:59 [topic] january events 02:09:14 chattacon is coming up in two weekends 02:09:28 where is chattacon at ? 02:09:32 chattacon is a sci-fi confrence in chattanooga 02:09:49 hmm 02:09:56 ahh kinda far and i don't have a car 02:09:59 we (computer gaming) have been running xubuntu for the past few years 02:10:19 I'll be going for a 4th year as a loco represenitave to assist 02:10:49 cyberanger, if i had a ride i wouldn't mind taggin along but it'd be kinda out of your way though 02:11:18 yeah, considering I'm not heading to maryville beforehand 02:11:35 any other events in the next month that is worth loco intrest 02:12:08 lemme check if klug's got anything 02:12:30 klug is dead last I heard, did they revive the group recently 02:13:17 theyre meeting at UT and perkins restraunt in knoxville 02:13:21 cyberanger: when is chattacon? 02:13:23 *restraunt 02:13:31 *restruant 02:13:39 20-22 02:13:42 w/e i give up 02:13:48 perkins 02:13:49 i can't spell it 02:13:55 so Jan 20-22 is chattacon 02:14:08 http://www.perkinsrestaurants.com/ 02:14:10 they are still meeting, last I heard, near zero turnout 02:14:24 yep, we've held the knoxville meetings there too 02:14:35 pace_t_zulu: correct 02:14:35 sounds like the Ubuntu 11.10 Release Party 02:14:42 sounds fun 02:14:47 near zero turnout 02:14:53 kinda too bad that i don't like unity though 02:15:02 * average_guy agrees 02:15:15 unity hasn't been very well received 02:15:17 i'll always favor gnome 2 02:15:38 acidfrost: i think gnome 2 is long in the tooth 02:15:57 pace_t_zulu: for klug, yeah, heard it was dying 02:16:22 maybe we could steal klug's members ? 02:16:31 ok ... so does that do it for events cyberanger? 02:16:33 would be a shame for them to die out 02:16:41 rip klug 02:17:01 pace_t_zulu: afaik at least, klug & nlug meetings as usual, then chattacon 02:17:48 acidfrost: the list is revived some (and a light list compared to most lugs in the area, they are a physical group) 02:17:59 yeah 02:18:01 cyberanger: so does that conclude this month's business? 02:18:09 umm, anyone have anything to add? 02:18:24 Any additional busness 02:18:26 cyberanger: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/tennessee.team/314/detail/ 02:18:55 we could rent a lot on green acres though i doubt many people would come buy 02:18:57 *by 02:19:01 wrst: +1 02:19:02 [link] http://loco.ubuntu.com/eetings/tennessee.team/314/detail/ 02:19:24 cyberanger: you entertaining motions to end the meeting? 02:19:40 motion to adjurn 02:19:42 sure, sounds like no new business 02:19:46 seconded 02:19:50 that the case i second 02:19:54 third 02:19:55 err third that motion to adjourn :) 02:19:56 wrst: will you do the hounors 02:20:02 #endmeeting