00:59 #startmeeting Reboot New York 00:59 Meeting started Thu Jan 9 00:59:41 2014 UTC. The chair is cprofitt. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 00:59 00:59 Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 00:59 welcome everyone. 00:59 Can everyone here for the meeting say "here" 01:00 here 01:01 RDUB-I jacky cyberanger Setup_Artist here? 01:01 Yes I'm here 01:01 * cprofitt nods 01:01 alrigh lets begin then 01:02 #topic local growth 01:02 I would like to help people start groups in their local areas... 01:03 what area are you from Setup_Artist ? 01:03 Lisbon NY 01:03 About 1 hour north of Watertown 01:03 yeah... North Country 01:03 lots of snow now, heh? 01:04 yea, you're not far from the border 01:04 Most of it south of us... we just have the really cold stuf 01:04 here 01:04 Border about 5 miles away 01:04 (sorry I'm late) 01:04 welcome 01:04 no problem RDUB-I 01:05 RDUB-I: where are you from? 01:06 Binghamton, NY' 01:06 Setup_Artist and RDUB-I what do you think would help get local groups started in your area? 01:07 I found the toughest thing for me was to find the place to meet... and then setting the date. 01:10 I think that in general we need to get Schools or local Libraries involved in some way. Often time I had thought that it would be nice to set up a couple PC's In an accessible area to give people a hands on look at Ubuntu without them being worried that it might "break" their computer. 01:10 Setup_Artist: have you approached any local libraries or schools? 01:11 I have talked to people that work in a couple libraries... but I can't seem to get them to bite... :/ 01:11 I wonder if Clarkson or SUNY Potsdam have any active computer groups 01:12 Setup_Artist do you think that is something I could assist with? Getting them to bite? 01:13 Clarkson does have mirrors that host images... I would imagine they have some labs that utilize Linux in some form. 01:13 or is it more a matter of getting promotional material for them to read? Success stories? 01:13 if Clarkson is hosting FOSS already thats a good sign 01:13 * cprofitt nods 01:13 I think Promotional material would be a big help... I try to print stuff out on my own... but I don't feel I get enough out there. 01:14 you may just have to seek out someone on the inside that can "champion" the meetings 01:14 http://cosi.clarkson.edu/ 01:14 nice 01:14 I figured they had something... bet St.Law does as well 01:15 Setup_Artist: working in a school district myself I know that it is a challenge when ideas are presented by someone other than a tie wearing sales professional who treats people to lunch 01:15 looks like there was a meeting tonight 01:15 at Clarkson 01:15 I hear you there... not everyone has learned that knowledge is found in the general public as well. 01:16 every Wednesday. 01:16 Setup_Artist: would you want to try to get over to one of their Wednesday meetins? 01:16 That actually sounds like a possibility... 01:16 hello simpleirc1 01:16 welcome 01:17 http://docs.cslabs.clarkson.edu/wiki/Presentations/Fall_2013 01:17 looks like there are fairly active 01:17 even some email contacts on that page 01:17 Got it bookmarked 01:17 though one person did present 01:18 Why we should hate Canonical 01:18 Setup_Artist: cool 01:18 You can't please everyone all the time... decisions need to be made... right or wrong. 01:18 #action Setup_Artist will visit the COSI lab and Clarkson 01:18 * meetingology Setup_Artist will visit the COSI lab and Clarkson 01:18 * cprofitt nods 01:19 RDUB-I: what about in your area - any groups? 01:19 Just have to fit it into my shop schedule 01:20 Working on three pc builds at the moment. 01:20 Setup_Artist: I appreciate you doing that... no rush so I am sure you will get time to do it eventually 01:21 slick666: what was the most difficult part about getting Syracuse started? 01:21 No *buntu specific group(s) that I am aware of. 01:21 hey ducky12432 good to see you 01:21 I'm interested. I push Ubuntu toward all my clients as much as I dare... One client that is in his 70's actually Loves Ubuntu now... won't have anything to do with Windows any more. 01:21 hey 01:22 I didn't find a whole lot of difficulty on any particular part 01:22 RDUB-I: is the STNYLUG still active? 01:22 http://www.stnylug.org/ 01:22 I would say what made bigegst difference was consistency 01:22 RDUB-I: http://www.stnylug.org/announce.html 01:22 every couple weeks, or every month doing something really helped get the momentum moving 01:23 slick666: I would agree... doing something every month is the key 01:23 I have found it takes at least one person willing to push the plan forward though 01:23 Officially - yes, but actually - not very active. Attendence is often 0-1 01:23 you can have several people all talking about doing things, but you have to plan them to make them happen 01:24 RDUB-I: in my area Linux is seen as 'difficult' by most computer users, but Ubuntu is not 01:24 There were a few of us in syr that pushed though 01:24 I find that funny, but perhaps planning an Ubuntu group would find more success 01:24 ducky12432: more than one is always better... but it takes one to get the ball rolling 01:25 Right but it takes that extra person to make it happen 01:25 and have it keep happening 01:26 RDUB-I: what would help you get Binghampton started? 01:26 ducky12432: what would help you to keep Syracuse going? 01:29 should we move on to the next topic? 01:31 my biggest issue is I work in Ithaca 01:31 That's the biggest problem 01:31 are you living down there too? 01:31 back in the day we both lived halfway between 01:32 I would not expect you to do local stuff in Syracuse if you are working and living somewhere else 01:32 start something in Ithaca or where you live 01:32 it is not easy to do things far away. 01:32 More people to help plan activities/talks - my work sched leaves me little time to do much except attend meeting (and even then I have to skip some) 01:33 * RDUB-I points out minor nit -- no such place as Bingham*ton -- it is Binghamton 01:33 RDUB-I: sorry RDUB-I 01:34 ducky12432 and RDUB-I I wonder if you could work on a group down there together 01:34 not sure how close Binghamton and Ithaca are... but I always thought of them as somewhat near each other 01:35 probably not the most direct route though... and Cortland is near both too right? 01:35 We have the generosity Binghamton University to thank for both the meeting locations but I wonder if that makes some possible attendees *think* it is for college kids only - which it is not. 01:35 RDUB-I: you can add the meetings to the loco.ubuntu.com page for New York 01:35 http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny/ 01:35 Bing to Ithaca ~ 1 hour via secondary roads -- 01:36 I can assist with adding the meetings... perhaps that would help it get more exposure 01:36 and always feel free to promote the meetings on the mailing list 01:36 Not pleasant on a 'dark and stormy'/'dark and snowy' night "Hey! watch out for those deer!!" 01:36 lol 01:37 my company does have offices in Endicott and syr... 01:37 I've taken out a couple in my day 01:37 yeah... I have driven from Ithaca and Rochester for some meetings... same deer I think 01:37 though I do like seeing the glow in the dark ones 01:39 ducky12432: Endicott is very close to Binghamton 01:39 Can't hurt to add the STNYLUG meetings to the ubunti loco page - we discuss a wide variety of distros at our meetings (well - when there is more than me - tho I have been known to argue with myself -- and lose!) 01:39 yea I know 01:40 *meetings to the ubuntu loco page 01:40 #action RDUB-I will add STNYLUG meetings to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny/ 01:40 * meetingology RDUB-I will add STNYLUG meetings to http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-us-ny/ 01:40 I think those are some great first steps 01:40 lets move on to something that may be a bit easier... 01:41 kk 01:41 #topic on-line Ubuntu activities for the NY LoCo 01:41 #TOPIC on-line Ubuntu activities for the NY LoCo 01:41 not sure why that is not working, but 01:42 #subtopic on-line Ubuntu activities for the NY LoCo 01:42 nor that one. 01:42 are any of you interested in participating in the online Ubuntu events? 01:42 User Week, Open Week, Bug James, etc? 01:44 I don't mind supporting remotely :) 01:44 * cprofitt smiles 01:44 I appreciate that slick666 01:45 we will keep you in the loop 01:46 there are many on-line events that you can participate in... the great thing about them is it does not require you to travel on a cold dark deer infested road 01:46 :-) 01:46 if anyone wants to know more about those events let me know 01:46 I will try to announce them on our mailing list as well. 01:46 Sounds as dangerous as my driveway... 01:47 I never have participated in thise things or anything like them, guess it is time to try out/learn about something new. 01:47 Not too sure what they are all about here either. 01:48 here is information about the global jam 01:48 http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2656/ 01:48 * RDUB-I makes note to self to read up on these new-to-me things. 01:48 user days is comging up this month 01:48 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays 01:49 user days are very focused on the end users -- teaching you how to do things with Ubuntu 01:49 they take place on IRC in what they call #classroom 01:50 open week is a bit different 01:50 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek 01:50 not sure if those are going to happen any more... but I suspect something similar will 01:51 I am always willing to help with things like this too... 01:51 if you have questions let me know 01:51 if you want to contribute by leading a session let me know and I can connect you with the people who schedule the events 01:51 there are other great on-line ways to contribute 01:52 one of the easiest is to help with the Ubuntu Community Help Wiki 01:52 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DocumentationTeam/Wiki 01:52 lots and lots of wiki pages that just need to be reviewed to see if they are up to date or not 01:53 and I mean simple things like catching the fact that the instructions say they work on Ubuntu 8.10 or some such 01:53 I am part of the documentation team and a member of the wiki editors so I can assist you get started there too 01:54 the wiki is another great resource to share with those you are trying to make comfortable with Ubuntu 01:54 it shows them how easy it is to get help. 01:54 I'll have to look at that possibility... it sounds like something I could do in spare time when I have any 01:54 +1 Setup_Artist 01:54 I do it in my free time... it never takes away from my family, etc 01:55 another great resource for help and one you can contribute to is ask ubutnu 01:55 My shop does that enough at times... 01:55 http://askubuntu.com/ 01:56 I want to leave some open time and not go over time... so we can parking lot this topic for next meeting 01:56 #topic open for questions 01:56 does anyone have any questions? 01:57 When you hand out literature on Ubuntu is it something you print out... or do you have a source to get it from? 01:57 great question 01:57 I have done both 01:57 I have created my own at times 01:58 and used some I found 01:58 http://spreadubuntu.org/ 01:58 is a great place to find handouts 01:58 you can either use them 100% of modify them to fit your own needs 01:58 I think what we have today is much better than I remember 01:59 I've used the ones from spreadubuntu website... but always looking for more 01:59 I have some older stuff I could share out to folks -- they may already be on the team wiki 01:59 I will have to check 01:59 slideshare.net is another place to look 02:00 K 02:00 I have not used much print material - maybe need to print up a few posters/flyers/brochures and spread them around to help get the word out about our (STNYLUG) group/meetings 02:00 http://www.slideshare.net/indigo196?utm_campaign=profiletracking&utm_medium=sssite&utm_source=ssslideview 02:01 feel free to take any of those or ask for originals 02:01 RDUB-I: print materials do help as people can take them to remember the date(s) 02:01 Thanks 02:01 I also have gotten tables at local computer events and advertised my Lug and the LoCo 02:02 any other questions? 02:02 One other thing I think I should bring up 02:02 for the members present that are looking at starting things in there local area 02:03 I would recommend putting "finding a partner in crime" on your short list also 02:03 I don't know if I can give advice on how to seek out like minded people 02:03 I agree 02:03 but if you have even one other person local that is helping out it really makes a big difference 02:04 so I wouldn't plan on putting everything together yourself. Plan on seeking out help at some point 02:05 I'm sure I wouldn't have done as much stuff if ducky wasn't there to work with me on stuff 02:05 fantastic points slick666 02:05 not going to be easy, but finding at least one person to assist truly makes it happen 02:06 #topic next meeting 02:06 I would like to schedule our next meeting for Feburary 5th at the same time 02:06 any objections to that? 02:06 works for me 02:06 I'll mark the cal 02:06 great 02:07 thanks everyone for attending 02:07 I feel enthused about us getting New York Rebooted! 02:07 #endmeeting