17:06 <popey> #startmeeting Music app meeting 17:06 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 19 17:06:58 2016 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:06 <meetingology> 17:06 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:07 * popey stats the meeting! 17:07 <ahayzen> \o/ 17:07 <popey> i have a couple of things to bring up :) 17:07 <ahayzen> so looks like the autopilot fix landed :-) 17:07 <popey> yay 17:07 <popey> bzoltan will be happy 17:07 <ahayzen> i've been working upstream on a few things... 17:07 <popey> ooh? 17:08 <ahayzen> been working with Jim to make a the MediaPlayer automatically reload if the service (media-hub) dies 17:08 <ahayzen> got a prototype working for if media-hub dies once ... just twice it doesn't quite work for some reason, we're investigating 17:08 <ahayzen> but basically means that if media-hub dies, you won't need to restart the app to get audio working again 17:09 <popey> Oh that's nice 17:09 <ahayzen> and my small patch into Qt has been sent for review ... which helps us to getting load/save working on the queue/playlists so we can load/save to m3u/pls etc 17:09 <ahayzen> (instead of our super slow sqlite thingy) 17:10 <ahayzen> and OPUS support is in a silo, i've tested that and it appeared to be working :-) 17:10 <popey> Awesome. 17:10 <ahayzen> so the telegram guys are now looking to reenable that within their app i believe 17:10 <ahayzen> (for voice msgs) 17:11 <popey> oooh! 17:11 <popey> That will be nice! 17:11 <ahayzen> yah :-) 17:11 <popey> Didn't think anyone was touching telegram 17:11 <popey> Although I imagine this is a "one line fix"? 17:11 <ahayzen> and there is a performance related branch with florian has pushed but there were some issues i've commented back 17:11 <popey> (for them) 😃 17:11 <popey> ok, good stuff 17:11 <ahayzen> there is *someone* working ish on it i think 17:12 <ahayzen> popey, tracked here https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1460464 17:12 <ahayzen> there is an assignee for telegram :-) 17:12 <popey> ok 17:12 <popey> ah, jin, good 17:13 <ahayzen> i think that is all on my list at the moment... 17:13 <popey> i can imagine a bunch of channels "testing" opus out 17:13 <ahayzen> oh! and Jim has been working on getting media-hub to work on the desktop 17:13 <ahayzen> haha oh god 17:14 <ahayzen> (desktop aka unity8 desktop) 17:14 <popey> Oh, good, that leads to my next question 17:14 <popey> 16.10 will have unity8 in the image 17:14 <popey> and snap support 17:14 <popey> so..... 17:14 <ahayzen> ooo 17:14 <ahayzen> yup 17:14 <ahayzen> we need to wait for media-hub to work on the desktop, and for them to support snaps first 17:14 <popey> We need to re-visit a snap for music 17:14 <popey> yes 17:14 <ahayzen> i've been talking with jim about it 17:14 <popey> ok 17:14 <popey> good stuff 17:15 <ahayzen> i've managed to snap one of my Bacon2D games up though :-D 17:15 <ahayzen> just gotta figure out why LP isn't pushing it to the store :-/ 17:16 <ahayzen> popey, but yeah, snapification (or whatever we are calling it) is on the list 17:16 <ahayzen> will we have UITK/ubuntu-sdk parts ? 17:16 <popey> uh 17:16 <popey> initially not yet 17:16 <ahayzen> or plugs and sockets 17:16 <ahayzen> would be nice if the base uitk was a template part that you could include 17:17 <popey> Okay, so good news. 17:17 <ahayzen> but i suppose it isn't that many packages to put int the stage ist 17:17 <ahayzen> *list 17:17 <popey> "Content snaps" have landed 17:17 <ahayzen> hehe 17:17 <popey> so we can make one snap kinda depend on another 17:17 <popey> so there could be a uitk content snap 17:17 <popey> shared to the music snap 17:17 <ahayzen> ok 17:17 <popey> bad news... 17:17 <ahayzen> from say ..ubuntu personal snap 17:17 <popey> not documented, and in the head of someone whose birthday it is today so he's afk :) 17:17 <popey> and is busy 17:17 <ahayzen> hehe :-) 17:17 <popey> but we're trying to prise the info out of him 17:18 <popey> and once we do, we (mhal119 and myself) will do demos to test it 17:18 <popey> and then document etc 17:19 <ahayzen> ok cool :-) 17:19 * ahayzen still wonders how granular the snapification will be 17:19 <popey> not that granular 17:19 <ahayzen> like are we expecting media-hub and mediascanner to be separate ones ... 17:20 <ahayzen> or are we expecting a ubuntu-touch snap...that has them all 17:20 * popey waves hands around 17:20 <ahayzen> and then just plugs and sockets 17:20 <popey> maybe :) 17:20 <ahayzen> :-D 17:20 <popey> unity8, mir, uitk, media-support.. maybe 17:20 <popey> guess that's a question for snappy and bill :) 17:20 <popey> he'll have to support some of this stuff 17:20 <ahayzen> yeah we'll find out in time i guess 17:21 <popey> but we need to keep pushing that 17:21 <ahayzen> yup over time i expect it'll become more granular 17:21 <popey> maybe 17:21 <popey> happy to tell you what I know 17:21 <ahayzen> coolio 17:21 <popey> got a postage stamp handy? 17:21 <ahayzen> :') 17:22 <popey> Ok, that was the only thing I had 17:22 <ahayzen> why not discuss over a beer ? :') 17:22 <ahayzen> lol 17:22 <popey> YES! 17:22 <ahayzen> popey, do we have timeframe for getting things ready for 16.10 ? 17:22 <ahayzen> or does it not matter as much... as we are snaps now \o/ 17:22 <popey> well, we need a good story for launch day 17:23 <ahayzen> ok 17:23 <popey> given people will login to unity8 and go "ok, where's the apps?" 17:23 <ahayzen> yeah 17:23 <popey> also, i need to find out what the plan for a store is on unity8 17:23 <ahayzen> i'll have to go back to trying to use unity8 :-) 17:23 <popey> because currently the only gui is gnome-software 17:23 <popey> heh 17:23 <popey> "tying to" 17:23 <ahayzen> snappy store scope? :-) 17:23 <popey> needs one 17:23 <popey> dunno whats in the pipeline to be honest 17:23 <popey> good question 17:23 * ahayzen waits for network indicator to work and basic things like that 17:24 <popey> ah 17:24 <popey> but on 16.10 it's all newer, so must be better 17:24 <ahayzen> and i couldn't login to the ubuntu one account 17:24 <popey> ah 17:24 <ahayzen> yeah 17:24 <ahayzen> that's also the problem 17:24 <ahayzen> being on 16.04 it is 'fun' :-) 17:24 <popey> yeah 17:24 <ahayzen> and the LXC solution seems to not be so recommended now 17:24 <popey> at least being in the archive means you can stick 16.10 on a usb or dual boot or whatever 17:25 <popey> yeah, bin all that, use 16.10 17:25 <ahayzen> i've got the PPA solution at the moment 17:25 <ahayzen> with stable-phone-overlay thingy 17:25 <ahayzen> but my nexus 4 using slimport seems more usable than my laptop :-) 17:25 <popey> hah 17:26 <ahayzen> i saw there were fixes for the touchpad two finger scrolling as well..so maybe that'll help my other issues 17:26 <ahayzen> popey, but yeah, back on topic ... only other thing to discuss for music is the streaming designs 17:26 <popey> sweet 17:26 <popey> yes 17:26 <popey> I can catch up with james next week when he is back 17:26 <ahayzen> cool 17:26 <popey> you're away for how long? 17:27 <ahayzen> i put loads of comments in the doc IIRC 17:27 <ahayzen> i'm away until...7th Sept 17:27 <popey> awesome 17:27 <popey> ok 17:29 <ahayzen> popey, ok, shall we move onto weather? 17:29 <popey> ok 17:29 <popey> #endmeeting