16:01 <popey> #startmeeting Music
16:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jun 24 16:01:04 2016 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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16:01 <popey> \o/
16:01 <popey> Hows tricks?
16:01 <ahayzen> \o/
16:01 <ahayzen> good you?
16:02 <ahayzen> so there have been a few media-hub landings...
16:02 <ahayzen> the ones for metadata and art in the indicator-sound
16:02 <popey> yes, that's working nicely
16:02 <ahayzen> there was a crash report we found and Jim already put a fix in
16:03 <ahayzen> which we are hoping caused the surge in bug reports we had
16:03 <ahayzen> (like 4-5 bug reports of weird behaviour due to mh crashing)
16:03 <popey> hm
16:03 <popey> okay
16:03 <ahayzen> but should be fixed now
16:03 <ahayzen> for reference it was this card https://trello.com/c/G3XCRWle/3361-1585-ubuntu-landing-067-media-hub-jhodapp
16:04 <ahayzen> then upcoming, it looks like we maybe able to get the buffer status when this lands https://trello.com/c/HIVhu1Ni/3340-1533-ubuntu-landing-055-qtubuntu-media-media-hub-lorn-potter
16:04 <ahayzen> which will help for our streaming stuff :-)
16:04 <popey> looks good!
16:05 <ahayzen> and then... i need to get back to working on that upstream stuff to get the load/save working for Playlists
16:05 <popey> ooh, that's nice timing
16:05 <ahayzen> it is basically there just need to test it and figure out how to propose stuff upstream (but Jim is helping me)
16:05 <popey> upstream mh?
16:05 <ahayzen> Qt
16:05 <ahayzen> Qtmultimedia
16:05 <popey> ah
16:05 <popey> oh right
16:05 <ahayzen> the load method adds them in one by one
16:06 <ahayzen> rather than using the addItems method jim added
16:06 <ahayzen> so that'll increase the performance further
16:06 <popey> is it noticable?
16:06 <ahayzen> ... and then finally (i think) ... i installed owncloud on my lappy and had a quick look at the API, but i think we need to wait for the accounts-plugin to exist next
16:06 <popey> I guess if you do an "add album" maybe?
16:07 <popey> who owns the accounts-plugin?
16:07 <popey> mardy?
16:07 <ahayzen> without it, adding like 30 tracks can be measured in seconds
16:07 <popey> oh, ouch
16:07 <ahayzen> yah
16:07 <ahayzen> so we need that, and a tweak to qtubuntu-media, which i've got queued
16:07 <ahayzen> erm, i think
16:07 <ahayzen> let me check the link i got...
16:08 <ahayzen> popey, yah https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/account-plugins/owncloud-1570986
16:09 <ahayzen> then once we get that, we just need to figure out how the auth works
16:09 <ahayzen> and then it should be pretty simple
16:09 <ahayzen> really design is the main thing then
16:09 <popey> looked around and he's not online at the moment
16:09 <popey> oh, it landed?
16:10 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/account-plugins/mcloud-plugin-lp1587282/+merge/296319 in trunk?
16:10 <ahayzen> yeah but there are two dependants
16:10 <popey> ah okay
16:10 <ahayzen> idk dan sent me that link when i was investigating things, it might not be the full branch for all of it
16:12 <popey> will ping mardy a mail now.
16:12 <ahayzen> cool thanks
16:12 <ahayzen> the others guys doing the file sync will be interested in that too obviously ;-)
16:14 <popey> sent
16:14 <popey> yeah
16:14 <ahayzen> \o/
16:14 <ahayzen> so really our side, the next stage is finallising the designs i think
16:15 <ahayzen> like i was thinking each of those tiles for the accounts... when you tap them might have a page/dialog that comes up
16:15 <ahayzen> eg to pick from multiple accounts of that provider
16:15 <ahayzen> eg if you have multiple owncloud instances, you'd want to pick which one to stream from
16:16 <ahayzen> and need to finish talking through it with Victor
16:16 <ahayzen> but he has been busy with work
16:16 <popey> have you seen how notes app / evernote does it?
16:16 <popey> basically the way you're describing
16:16 <ahayzen> ooo dont think so
16:16 <popey> you choose to connect to an online accont, it presents you with a dialog where you either choose an existing one or add one
16:16 <ahayzen> i'll have a play
16:16 <popey> lemme get a screenshot now
16:16 <ahayzen> so then what happens when you have already added two...
16:17 <ahayzen> and then you go to click on owncloud to stream from ?
16:17 <popey> one one would be active?
16:17 <ahayzen> oh
16:17 <ahayzen> when you add... it removes the other>
16:17 <ahayzen> ?
16:17 <popey> no, toggle between
16:17 <ahayzen> hmmm i think i understand, i screenshot may help though lol
16:18 <popey> one mo
16:18 <ahayzen> thanks
16:18 <popey> had to sign in, online accounts forgets your accounts sometimes
16:18 <popey> quite annoying
16:18 <ahayzen> heh
16:18 <ahayzen> i need to investigate why location simply isn't working on my device recently
16:19 <popey> http://imgur.com/a/n9yW2
16:19 <popey> bottom screenshot is first run
16:19 <popey> middle shows the tabs
16:19 <popey> top shows selection screen
16:20 <popey> no, middle/top swap
16:20 <popey> so where it says "accounts on evernote.com" if you have multiple accounts they're listed in there
16:20 <ahayzen> so then if you tap the box or 'add' you can then select a different one?
16:20 <popey> yes
16:20 <ahayzen> ok
16:20 <popey> add takes you to online accounts
16:21 <ahayzen> so yeah each of those tiles for the providers
16:21 <ahayzen> i think needs an extra page where you can change the settings like this
16:21 <popey> how many people have multiple accounts?
16:21 <ahayzen> maybe if you press'n'hold or something
16:21 <popey> i mean, I can't see much point in more than one spotify account
16:21 <ahayzen> maybe not spotify
16:21 <popey> maybe more than one google play account if you have someone elses password
16:21 <ahayzen> but owncloud i could
16:21 <popey> or work and home google accounts
16:21 <ahayzen> what if you have one for file sync... and one for music
16:21 <popey> (people put music in work accounts)?
16:21 <popey> ok, yeah
16:22 <popey> or an owncloud at work and one at home
16:22 <ahayzen> it is more i'm saying we need to think how that case will work
16:22 <popey> or a test owncloud and production one
16:22 <popey> I guess maybe
16:22 <popey> bit niche
16:22 <popey> (he says, on ubuntu phone)
16:22 <ahayzen> not that it is common, but should be possible
16:22 <popey> yeah
16:22 <popey> agreed
16:22 <ahayzen> so i think like if you press'n'hold the tile it'll then show a page like that
16:22 <ahayzen> where you can add/remove accounts for that provider
16:23 <ahayzen> or something like that
16:23 <popey> yeah
16:23 <ahayzen> or when you are using the provider... there could be an extra tab that has them...but then we gonna have loads of tabs
16:23 <popey> a generic streaming tab maybe
16:23 <popey> and if you only have one provider, it shows that one
16:23 <popey> if you have more than one, you have them all shown
16:24 <ahayzen> yeah like in the designs i did before...
16:25 <ahayzen> (just sent you that streaming tab) that i called 'source'
16:25 <ahayzen> on telegram
16:25 <popey> yes, that's what i was thinking
16:25 <ahayzen> so if you tap it... it switched the app to that provider
16:26 <ahayzen> but maybe if you press and hold.. you can then add/remove/edit the account
16:27 <popey> hmmm
16:27 <popey> make it super simple
16:27 <popey> throw at design
16:27 <popey> so we don't end up re-working it much
16:27 <popey> I worry about long presses
16:27 <ahayzen> yup
16:27 <popey> bottom edge?
16:27 <ahayzen> yeah long press isn't discoverable
16:28 <ahayzen> you could make it so when you tap on it, it always show the extra page
16:28 <ahayzen> which then has a button to use that provider, and then other buttons to add/edit/remove
16:28 <ahayzen> but then it is more clicks
16:28 <ahayzen> but as we said before, how often will you be switching this
16:28 <popey> well if you tap on it and there is no account, it should offer to add one
16:28 <ahayzen> yeah
16:29 <ahayzen> but if you already have one... it could offer to use it to stream, or to use a different one
16:29 <ahayzen> i think i'll try drawing that up and see what it looks like
16:29 <popey> ok
16:29 <popey> yes
16:29 <ahayzen> feels like the simplest, as then that could be APL as well
16:30 <ahayzen> then get victor to look at it as well, and once we are happy maybe send to the design clinic comeback :-)
16:31 <popey> ya
16:31 <ahayzen> and hopefully by then, we'll have an online-account
16:31 <ahayzen> and the mh streaming buffer thingy
16:32 <popey> yay
16:33 <ahayzen> i think that is all from me for music
16:33 <popey> woot
16:33 <popey> thanks ahayzen
16:33 <ahayzen> \o/
16:33 <ahayzen> next!
16:33 <popey> #endmeeting