14:48 <popey> #startmeeting Docviewer meeting 14:48 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec 3 14:48:22 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:48 <meetingology> 14:48 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:48 <popey> sverzegnassi, hello! 14:48 <sverzegnassi> hey, popey! 14:48 <sverzegnassi> thanks! 14:48 <popey> Hows it going? 14:49 <sverzegnassi> fine, thanks! just finished the lesson! you? 14:50 <popey> Great! 14:51 <sverzegnassi> :) 14:51 <sverzegnassi> I guess one of the today arguments is the release date. am i wrong? 14:51 <popey> Ya! 14:51 <popey> That's the main topic I think :) 14:52 <popey> I'm just building trunk now for a bit of testing 14:52 <sverzegnassi> I'm extensively testing docviewer since yesterday, and it seems ready 14:52 <popey> \o/ 14:52 <sverzegnassi> I've found a couple of issue that could be suitable for the code-in 14:52 <sverzegnassi> not big issue, just small UI fixes 14:53 <popey> Oh great. 14:53 <sverzegnassi> I will open new reports as soon as I get home 14:53 <popey> ok. 14:53 <popey> So I'm building it now, will test on my devices. Any reason not to upload later today? 14:54 <sverzegnassi> translations? 14:54 <popey> yeah, true. 14:54 <sverzegnassi> (just brainstorming some reason) 14:55 <popey> ah okay 14:55 <popey> Hm, maybe best to wait until tomorrow morning 14:55 <popey> so we get one more night of translation imports from launchpad? 14:55 <sverzegnassi> ok. sounds reasonable to me! 14:56 <popey> Because otherwise I'll upload this, then more translations come in, and everyone gets a 66MB download again next week when I push an update :) 14:56 <popey> Ok, I'll do that tomorrow, and take a look at the state of translations. 14:56 <sverzegnassi> do we still have the record for the biggest app in the store? is it true?! :D 14:57 <popey> haha, sadly not 14:57 <sverzegnassi> haha 14:57 <popey> lets see... 14:58 <popey> well, if I made a multi-arch package it _would_ be the biggest 14:58 <popey> but I think phone users would complain about having 120MB of x86/amd64 binaries on their device 14:58 <popey> so I won't do that 14:58 <sverzegnassi> heh, it's better to avoid that 14:59 <sverzegnassi> ok, two other questions i have: 14:59 <popey> yeah 14:59 <sverzegnassi> 1) trying to spot some tasks for the code-in, I've seen that we have 5 different styles for the empty state 14:59 <popey> Across different apps? 15:00 <sverzegnassi> yes. clock, docviewer, calculator use the same one 15:00 <sverzegnassi> notes use its own, as also does address-book and others 15:00 <sverzegnassi> the question is: given that we use the same strings in the same scenario of music-app (documents not found) 15:01 <sverzegnassi> a task was to use the same style. so I was looking for the music-app design specs 15:02 <popey> hmmm 15:03 <popey> trying to find a document 15:04 <sverzegnassi> well, i could simply have a look at the music-app code. my request was meant to make a similar task more "official" whenever it would be picked by some google code-in'r 15:04 <popey> To make the apps consistent? 15:04 <sverzegnassi> that's the goal 15:05 <popey> Would need design input on that, for sure. I don't know which would be most current, or most correct from the design point of view. 15:05 <popey> (as an aside, I just build docviewer and the .desktop file still referrs to the old icon filename - Icon=docviewer@30.png - so the new icon doesn't show up 15:06 <popey> (unless I built it wrong) 15:06 <sverzegnassi> when you tap and hold in the app scope? 15:06 <sverzegnassi> I have installed it on my phone. i have the new icon 15:06 <popey> hmmm 15:07 <sverzegnassi> (well, the phone didn't had a previous release, since I flashed rc-proposed yesterday) 15:07 <popey> I'll do a clean build. 15:08 <popey> Ok, so for the empty state, we should get info from design on which is the preferred way, and modify the offending apps, right? 15:08 <sverzegnassi> yes 15:09 <popey> so that would include clock/doc/calc/notes which are all probably the wrong ones, if address-book is different 15:09 <sverzegnassi> the most recent is the one from music-app (Jan 15 vs Sep 14) 15:09 <popey> hm, okay. 15:09 <sverzegnassi> didn't check for address-book to be honest 15:09 <popey> We can get the right answer from design. 15:09 <sverzegnassi> :D 15:10 <sverzegnassi> ok, second question is about planning the next release 15:10 <sverzegnassi> while i don't want to discuss about the single tasks yet, 15:10 <sverzegnassi> i wonder if we should still kept the weekly planning 15:10 <sverzegnassi> s/planning/milestones 15:11 <sverzegnassi> or track them just every month 15:11 <sverzegnassi> (and ideally release a new eversion every month) 15:11 <popey> Monthly seems sensible to me. 15:12 <popey> maybe every few months we sync the libreoffice build too 15:12 <popey> but not every month 15:13 <sverzegnassi> yeah, libreoffice sync should not follow that timing 15:13 <popey> ok. 15:13 <sverzegnassi> don't they release every six months? 15:14 <popey> yeah, but they do security updates too 15:14 <popey> and bug fixes etc 15:14 <sverzegnassi> yeah, sure! 15:15 <popey> So yes, monthly milestones. Or six-weekly if you want to be in sync with OTA updates 15:15 <popey> 6-weeks feels too long to me, what do you think? 15:15 <popey> (rebuilt docviewer and have the right icon now) :) 15:16 <sverzegnassi> that was also my idea (6-week). then I thought that the last week could be useful for updating translations 15:16 <sverzegnassi> it's up to you... for sure you have more experience than me :) 15:16 <popey> Heh, okay. 15:17 <popey> Yeah, 6-week cycle with focus on QA in week 5 and translations in week 6 ? 15:17 <sverzegnassi> +1 15:20 <popey> Excellent. 15:20 <popey> in sync with OTA or offset? 15:20 <popey> probably easier to do it in sync 15:20 <popey> we can use the same milestone names etc. 15:21 <sverzegnassi> yes! also, in case we need to do such tasks as the migration to uitk 1.3 15:21 <sverzegnassi> it would be easier 15:22 <popey> +1, agreed. 15:23 <popey> Ok, anything else to discuss? 15:23 <sverzegnassi> ok, that's all from me! 15:23 <popey> Ok. I'll grab some new screenshots for the store, and add the new icon when I upload tomorrow. 15:24 <sverzegnassi> great! 15:24 <popey> Any documents you suggest for screenshots? 15:24 <popey> Something complex :) 15:25 <popey> the e4.5 manual is an obvious choice, a spreadsheet and a presentation too would be good. 15:25 <sverzegnassi> some spreadsheet with charts? 15:25 <popey> yeah 15:25 <popey> I have a sheet with a couple of simple charts in, good idea 15:25 <popey> Expect to see bug new reports over the weekend :) 15:26 <popey> Ok, I had nothing else either. Thanks for getting this all ready for release, really looking forward to seeing it on devices. 15:26 <sverzegnassi> i'm sure of that. let the spam begin! :) 15:26 <popey> haha 15:27 <sverzegnassi> It has been fun to work on this! :) 15:27 <popey> Have a great weekend sverzegnassi, I'll ping you a mail when it's in the store, and you can announce it on your social stuff. 15:27 <popey> \o/ 15:27 <sverzegnassi> ok, thanks! 15:27 <sverzegnassi> have a great weekend you too, popey! 15:27 <popey> #endmeeting