15:08 <popey> #startmeeting Calculator meeting
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15:08 <popey> Ok, gang65 you had a calculator question?
15:08 <gang65> First:
15:09 <gang65> I would like to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1507799
15:09 <gang65> I need approval
15:09 <gang65> Unfortunately I cannot contact with Riccardo
15:10 <gang65> @popey could you please
15:10 <meetingology> gang65: Error: "popey" is not a valid command.
15:10 <gang65> popey Could you please take a look at this?
15:11 * popey looks
15:11 <popey> you need me to review the merge?
15:11 <popey> I can do that :)
15:11 <gang65> ok
15:11 <gang65> thanks
15:12 <gang65> After that I would like to push new verison of Calc to the store
15:12 <gang65> What do you think ?
15:13 <popey> Sure, I'll do that once we ensure that bug is fixed
15:13 <popey> and will submit to QA
15:13 <popey> They have some time now the 15.10 release is out :)
15:14 <gang65> Great
15:14 <gang65> Next thing:
15:14 <gang65> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1476374
15:14 <gang65> We agreed that we would like to get rid of partial result
15:15 <gang65> James: Could you please update Calculator documentation to reflect that?
15:15 <popey> right, and use multi-line...
15:15 <gang65> It is really bad, and people complains about that
15:16 <gang65> https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.calculator
15:16 <popey> okay. I agree, we should improve that UI, and we have a reply from JMulholland :)
15:17 <popey> is that something you can fix gang65 ?
15:17 <gang65> Yes
15:17 <popey> Awesome.
15:17 <popey> Happy to review the merges.
15:17 <gang65> I don't have rights  to update Calculator documentation
15:18 <popey> documentation?
15:18 <gang65> https://uappexplorer.com/app/com.ubuntu.calculator
15:18 <popey> Oh, I can do that.
15:18 <gang65> Wrong
15:18 <gang65> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EiIELGizPHrd0TY7JdNwULbiqPYfOyEEI5CS87n7QlY/edit#slide=id.p
15:18 <popey> oh
15:19 <popey> it says you edited it back in april :)
15:19 <popey> i just set you to edit rights
15:19 <popey> if you refresh, can you edit now?
15:20 <gang65> Yes, thanks
15:20 <popey> great!
15:21 <gang65> I would like to ask also if current Calculator implemenation fit in new UX Design rules/patterns
15:22 <popey> Good question!
15:22 <gang65> I mean for Clock there will be refreshed theme,
15:22 <gang65> what about Calculator
15:22 <JMulholland> true!
15:22 <gang65> ?
15:22 <popey> JMulholland: ^ maybe you guys need to review calculator as well as all the others you're doing!
15:23 <JMulholland> well, visually calculator was a bit ahead of other apps in terms of style (clean and minimal)
15:23 <popey> true
15:23 <gang65> Ok
15:23 <JMulholland> UX-wise I havent seen anything (yet!) that would need to change, but a proper review once the SDK 1.3 designs are firm(or firmer) would definitely be something we should do
15:24 <gang65> One more question regarding documentation
15:25 <gang65> How to edit screens in Calculator documentation ?
15:25 <JMulholland> as in the old spec?
15:25 <gang65> yes
15:26 <JMulholland> I can get ownership of Giorgios old doc if it hasnt been given to me already
15:26 <gang65> Let me give example:
15:26 <gang65> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EiIELGizPHrd0TY7JdNwULbiqPYfOyEEI5CS87n7QlY/edit#slide=id.g37dfaf379_113
15:27 <gang65> Here we have calculator mocks with old style calculator design
15:27 <gang65> How can I edit these pictures ?
15:28 <JMulholland> it’s tough to get time given to me in my schedule for overhauling an old doc to specify something that is already built unfortunately
15:29 <gang65> I would like to make these calculator pictures up to date,
15:29 <gang65> I would only know how to edit that
15:30 <JMulholland> well giogrios always used to do his sketches in Adobe Illustrator for starters…
15:30 <popey> Yeah.
15:30 <JMulholland> I could try and hunt down the source files for you in our doc repositories, but would they be of any use?
15:30 <gang65> Do you have some external files which I could edit and paste it into Calculator Document ?
15:30 <JMulholland> they will be illustrator (or possibly omnigraffle) files, as those are the tools giorgio liked to use
15:31 <gang65> I think it will be very useful
15:31 <JMulholland> the rest of the team here uses sketch (including myself)
15:31 <gang65> Especially file like in:
15:31 <gang65> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EiIELGizPHrd0TY7JdNwULbiqPYfOyEEI5CS87n7QlY/edit#slide=id.g7b40fb504_00
15:32 <popey> Yeah, this is a byproduct of the design guys using mac tools unfortunately
15:32 <gang65> What kind of application are you using for mocks ?
15:32 <popey> I don't think we have tools on Linux that compare
15:32 <popey> gang65: have you seen the ui toolkit on github?
15:33 <popey> https://github.com/halfsail/Ubuntu-UI-Toolkit
15:33 <JMulholland> gang65 - Giorgio likes to use Adobe Illustrator (and sometimes Omnigraffle) for his mock-ups (including those done for calculator)
15:34 <JMulholland> I dont have liscenses for either application myself, so can’t try and convert the files into something we could use (and exporting from those applications always makes something so messy its hardly worth bothering, easier to start from scratch in the other app you want to use)
15:34 <popey> +1
15:35 <gang65> ok
15:35 <gang65> so svg format ?
15:36 <gang65> https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics
15:36 <popey> yes
15:36 <gang65> I mean:
15:36 <gang65> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scalable_Vector_Graphics
15:36 <gang65> :-P
15:36 <popey> works really nicely, i used it for mockups of terminal
15:36 <popey> hah
15:37 <gang65> Ok thanks
15:37 <JMulholland> I mean for wireframes you can even use google draw
15:37 <JMulholland> or there’s gimp for putting out SVGs...
15:39 <gang65> ok
15:39 <gang65> now everything is clear for me
15:39 <gang65> Thank you very much
15:40 <popey> Excellent, thanks JMulholland gang65
15:40 <popey> anything else?
15:40 <gang65> Not from my side
15:41 <JMulholland> nothing here!
15:41 <JMulholland> happy 15.10 day guys! :D
15:41 <popey> Awesome!
15:41 <popey> Thanks guys!
15:41 <popey> #
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15:42 <popey> #endmeeting