14:42 <popey> #startmeeting clock meeting 14:42 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Oct 22 14:42:33 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:42 <meetingology> 14:42 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 14:42 <gang65> Now I need call for testing on Ubuntu-Phone mailing list. I would like to make sure that DST change is rock solid 14:42 <JMulholland> good plan 14:42 <popey> I expect we will hear about it vocally if it's not working :D 14:43 <JMulholland> I’ll make sure it’s all up to date on my reference devices 14:43 <JMulholland> ha, I suspect youre right popey 14:43 <gang65> :-D 14:43 <popey> We can certainly set alarms and ensure they fire at the right time each day 14:44 <gang65> Just your collegues will be at work one hour earlier 14:44 <gang65> There is one special case: 14:45 <popey> :) 14:45 <gang65> If the alarm is set, when it cannot ring in after DST change 14:46 <gang65> For example 12.30 14:47 <gang65> I mean during DST change, there is one blank hour. Withing this hour the alarm will not start ringing. 14:47 <popey> ah right, yes. 14:47 <JMulholland> hm 14:48 <gang65> The alarm should be "Passed" then 14:48 <gang65> It is similar situation when you will just turn off your phone, and alarm will pass without ringing 14:48 <popey> right 14:49 <gang65> I will prepare some test cases for community, 14:49 <JMulholland> understood, although I can’t help but worry that someone might really, really need to get up at half-past midnight on the day DST take effect :P 14:50 <gang65> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time#Procedure 14:50 <popey> :) 14:52 <gang65> At the beginning of DST, the alarm will not ring 14:52 <gang65> When DST ends, it should ring twice :-P 14:52 <gang65> Am I right ? 14:53 <JMulholland> no alarm when the clocks go forward, double alarms when the clocks go back, right? 14:53 <gang65> yes 14:54 <JMulholland> its that ‘no alarm scenario’ that makes me nervous. It’d be a low priority/ edge case thing…. But maybe rather than ‘no alarm’ we’d still run an alarm at what *would have been* the correct time?… 14:54 <JMulholland> Just something to consider 14:56 <gang65> ok 14:56 <gang65> Let's say we beginning of DST. 14:57 <gang65> So there will be time jump from 00:00 to 1:00 14:57 <gang65> And user set time for 00:30 14:57 <gang65> Should alarm start ringing at 1:00 14:57 <gang65> ? 14:58 <popey> Hm 14:58 <popey> My initial question would be "what do other platforms do?" 14:58 <gang65> the user is already late 30 minutes :-) 14:58 <gang65> In my opinion they do not ring 14:59 <gang65> It is similar situation with changing timezones 14:59 <gang65> And for Android it doesn't ring when you change timezone 14:59 <gang65> I need to confirm that 15:00 <gang65> DST is horror for computers 15:00 <gang65> Thats why it is using Universal Time 15:01 <gang65> Generally I think Clock app is quite stable 15:01 <gang65> I will continue polishing it 15:01 <gang65> till New Design :-) 15:02 <gang65> Can we swith to Calculator meeting :-) 15:03 <gang65> I have an question regarding that 15:07 <popey> sorry 15:07 <popey> I got dragged away from my keyboard 15:08 <JMulholland> np :) 15:08 <popey> #endmeeting