19:40 <popey> #startmeeting Music meeting 19:40 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 28 19:40:35 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 19:40 <meetingology> 19:40 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 19:40 <popey> o/ 19:40 <vthompson> hey popey ahayzen! 19:40 <popey> heya! 19:40 <ahayzen> o/ 19:41 <popey> So we have an approved clock with the custom alarms, by QA 19:41 <popey> We need to submit music too. 19:41 <popey> when you're ready 19:41 <ahayzen> big news, we're at commit 900+ now! 19:41 <vthompson> We should be ready 19:41 <ahayzen> yup we are ready :-) 19:41 <vthompson> ooo, that's a lot of commits! 19:41 <ahayzen> just updated the readme 19:41 <ahayzen> and the translations are done from what i can see? 19:41 <ahayzen> do we need chinese as well or not ? 19:41 <vthompson> who will be 1000... Probably Launchpad Translations 19:41 <popey> So let me know when you want me to submit to QA 19:41 <ahayzen> most likely 19:41 <popey> I can do that anytime. 19:42 <ahayzen> now? ;-) 19:42 <vthompson> How bad are we in chinese? 19:42 <ahayzen> ignoring Chinese (Hong Kong) pretty good 19:42 <vthompson> yea, probably just missing that 1 new string 19:42 <ahayzen> yup 19:43 <ahayzen> popey, is EN and spanish the only requirements ? 19:43 <popey> no 19:43 <vthompson> It might be good to get that in this update. Will QA be able to review today? Or should we wait til Monday? 19:43 <ahayzen> i vote wait until monday to give the translators a chance 19:44 <vthompson> In my mail to translators, I kinda made it sound like Spanish was the only requirement 19:44 <popey> german, italian, french, spanish, english, chinese 19:44 <ahayzen> as we did mail them, but only given them like 24hrs lol 19:44 <popey> I think are the minimum 19:44 <popey> Well, no QA will be done this weekend 19:44 <popey> so lets wait for weekend translations to land on monday and submit then? 19:44 <ahayzen> german and chinese are missing 19:44 <vthompson> Agreed 19:44 <ahayzen> yup 19:45 <vthompson> Maybe I should reply to the translations email asking specifically for German and Chinese? 19:45 <popey> It's a public holiday on monday, so we may be down some resources 19:45 <popey> (in the UK) 19:45 <ahayzen> :-) 19:46 <vthompson> If we wait til Monday, does that mean nik90 might want to get some of his more recent changes into the clock's update? 19:47 <popey> he has some translations to land too I think 19:47 <ahayzen> clock has already passed QA in its current form 19:47 <popey> no more fixes 19:47 <popey> ya 19:47 <vthompson> k 19:47 <ahayzen> popey, were you able to demo anything in the end, at the sprint? 19:48 <vthompson> Demo what? 19:48 <popey> I didn't, but instead I made a video and shared it with the company 19:48 <ahayzen> ah cool 19:49 <popey> pmed you the link 19:49 <popey> its unlisted, and I told company not to share 19:49 <ahayzen> vthompson, i gave popey a snapshot of the convergence stuff 19:49 <ahayzen> coolio 19:49 <vthompson> ah cool. 19:50 <ahayzen> hehe its improved alot since this morning :-) 19:50 <vthompson> I kinda want to talk about that a bit. We have some prototypes for Now playing toggle using the same section headings.. which would still work 19:50 <ahayzen> possibly we need to wait for t1mp's new component before we can have headers in the sidebar 19:50 <vthompson> But we had discussed having a "Songs" tab toggle for sorting the songs by date and alphabetically. Maybe such a feature will need to be a header action? 19:51 <ahayzen> (basically he is writing a component that you can add to any other Item which gives it a header) 19:51 <ahayzen> vthompson, i would say that is more a header action (the toggle for sorting) 19:51 <ahayzen> but in the convergence long run would we want to be able to sort by mulitple fields ? 19:52 <ahayzen> as you can in a normal gtk treeview/listview 19:52 <vthompson> Probably multiple sort fields 19:52 <ahayzen> yeah so if you had a header actions or something to then allow you to select which field to sort by that would be cool 19:52 <vthompson> We probably want to redesign that page for desktop/tablet anyway. It's not good in wide view 19:53 <ahayzen> yeah 19:53 <ahayzen> as many of the views arent' :-/ 19:53 <ahayzen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1397582 19:53 <vthompson> But maybe they'll look ok with the new layout changes 19:54 <ahayzen> i think that'll help for the short term but they'll still need to be tweaked 19:54 <vthompson> The SDK team is planning on having the columns be resizable right? 19:55 <ahayzen> yup 19:55 <ahayzen> and more columns 19:55 <ahayzen> we're restricted to 2 at the moment 19:55 <ahayzen> i wanna make the left one bigger :-) 19:55 <vthompson> I wanna make the right one bigger :) 19:56 <ahayzen> eventually they'll be user resizeable ..much like a Pane in Gtk 19:56 <ahayzen> oh no the right is an Item we can make that bigger :-) 19:56 <vthompson> ah 19:56 <ahayzen> i'm currently thinking of making it expand as the app expands 19:56 <vthompson> so the only other large item is mh3 and getting us updated for a hopeful ota7 drop with the new background playlists 19:56 <ahayzen> basically the adaptivepagelayout's left/right are 40GU atm .. so i made the sidebar 30GU to then match the 70GU 19:57 <vthompson> i see 19:57 <ahayzen> but say your 100+GU then we could make the sidebar bigger for that case 19:57 <ahayzen> both this and bg-playlists i see being a OTA7/8 drop 19:57 <popey> That's ambitious 19:57 <popey> But would be most welcome 19:58 <popey> I'd like to get wide testing of that. 19:58 <vthompson> ha, will we have a new framework for ota7? 19:58 <popey> yes 19:58 <ahayzen> there are quite a few bugs in the sdk blocking this tim reckons he *may* be able to get most done for ota7 but if not hopefully 8 19:58 <ahayzen> (most are actually from the head sections lol) 19:58 <popey> I pounced on pmcgowan when he arrived this week and he nudged a bug which adds more frameworks 19:58 <popey> he thought it had already landed, and now will 19:58 <ahayzen> yeah we need a new framework badly 19:58 <ahayzen> for media-hub and for 1.3 uitk 19:58 <popey> yup 19:59 <popey> it will land soon 19:59 <ahayzen> sweet 19:59 <vthompson> So would each be a diff framework? Or can we assume mh3 and 1.3 uitk will be the same new framework? 19:59 <ahayzen> i think they'll be on the same? 19:59 <ahayzen> they are both targeting OTA7 for an initial release 19:59 <popey> well technically 1.3 is already on all images 20:00 <ahayzen> yeah ;-) 20:00 <ahayzen> whether they are just pre-baked or not is the question ;-) 20:01 <vthompson> cool, so ahayzen do you want to run through the list of mh3 issues we had previously and update the list with what's fixed in the recent mh3/qtubuntu-media update? 20:01 <vthompson> Or should I? 20:01 <ahayzen> i sent a mail this week? with the latest list ? 20:01 <ahayzen> Jim should be back on this list either today/next week 20:01 <vthompson> Yep, so I can check to see what's been fixed if you want me to 20:01 <ahayzen> he just had to do MPRIS support first 20:02 <ahayzen> yeah :-) 20:02 <vthompson> oh, so that's probably all that's new 20:02 <ahayzen> or just ask him ;-) 20:03 <vthompson> So, were there any action items from last week to talk about? 20:03 <vthompson> Were we going to make polls or anything? 20:03 <ahayzen> maybe for streaming ? 20:03 <ahayzen> but we've got distracted with convergence and bg-playlists lol 20:03 <ahayzen> oh were we going to poll the "feature request" ? 20:03 <vthompson> Would it maybe be premature to ask the community about streaming? 20:03 <ahayzen> possibly 20:03 <vthompson> yea features is more what I was thinking 20:04 <ahayzen> i think maybe wait for design and mh confirmation before streaming 20:04 <vthompson> same 20:04 <ahayzen> ok so list of features to poll for.. like favourites 20:05 <ahayzen> as in the ability to favourite a track ... not your favourite feature to add ;-) 20:05 <popey> streaming is massively dependent on platform 20:05 <ahayzen> is one for the poll from me 20:05 <popey> +1 20:05 <popey> I would love that 20:05 <ahayzen> maybe being able to sort views by different things could be one ? 20:05 <ahayzen> it seems quite simple 20:06 <ahayzen> being able to switch between cardview/listview on some views 20:06 <vthompson> Agreed. I think our action from last week was to kinda curate your list ahayzen and then give it to popey to put in a poll 20:06 <ahayzen> and one feature i've wanted alot recently (and now with convergence) is to be able to go "Play/show all tracks for this artist" 20:07 <vthompson> yea, cardview to listview toggle. 20:07 <vthompson> If we could get a section heading for the header of that view that'd be cool 20:07 <ahayzen> so that looks like a provisional list of things :-) 20:07 <ahayzen> yeah that'd be cool 20:08 <ahayzen> or even just a custom thing like we've had before in prototypes ? 20:08 <vthompson> possibly 20:09 <ahayzen> we can prototype :-) 20:09 <ahayzen> it'll have to get the votes first though ;-) lol 20:09 <vthompson> ha, design by committee 20:09 <ahayzen> \o/ 20:10 <vthompson> anything else that we need to talk about for music? 20:10 <ahayzen> not really, i'll continue hacking on this convergence thing and hopefully get a WIP branch up soon 20:10 <popey> Awesome 20:10 <ahayzen> i'm afk most of the weekend though so it'll probably be early next week 20:10 <popey> So one thing to bear in mind... 20:11 <popey> Think of october as a target for an alpha of a convergent image 20:11 <popey> would be good to be in that :) 20:11 <ahayzen> ooo 20:11 <popey> early alpha 20:11 <vthompson> Octobe is also OTA7 right? 20:11 <ahayzen> we might be ontrack for that :-) 20:11 <popey> yup 20:11 <ahayzen> then OTA8 late nov/early dec 20:11 <vthompson> Yea, I think we are on track for an alpha 20:12 <ahayzen> OTA8 we should definitely have something functional assuming SDK have fixed the bugs 20:12 <popey> yeah, i dont think more than two OTAs for the rest of this year 20:12 <ahayzen> cool 20:12 <vthompson> are any of the other core apps doing converged designs ATM? 20:12 <ahayzen> dekko ? 20:13 <ahayzen> alot of the system-apps 20:13 <popey> calendar will too 20:13 <ahayzen> ooo that could be interesting 20:13 <popey> but it's still early sketch level 20:13 <vthompson> ok cool 20:14 <ahayzen> ok is that all ? 20:15 <popey> Think so. 20:15 <popey> #endmeeting