15:38 <popey> #startmeeting notes meeting 15:38 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Aug 27 15:38:10 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 15:38 <meetingology> 15:38 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 15:38 <mzanetti> haha 15:38 <popey> So a couple of things from this sprint worth noting:- 15:38 <popey> Been doing a lot of testing of nexus 4 + mouse / kb + screen 15:38 <mzanetti> uh! 15:38 <popey> been taking notes and have bugs to file all over the place, which is my friday activity I think :) 15:39 <mzanetti> that works for me... 15:39 <popey> Some, I am not sure if they're unity or app specific 15:39 <mzanetti> so basically topic is: Let's converge! 15:39 <popey> e.g. mouse wheel 15:39 <popey> yes! 15:39 <popey> basically no apps scroll when you use the wheel 15:39 <mzanetti> right... I think no support in unity yet 15:39 <mzanetti> should be pretty high up the list by now tho 15:39 <mzanetti> within next 4 weeks I expect 15:40 <popey> okay 15:40 <mzanetti> also: if we're getting serious about windowed mode, I would prefer switching to the multicolumn view thing from SDK 15:40 <mzanetti> and dropping my hacky self-made way of that 15:40 <popey> saves me one bug report 15:40 <popey> +1 15:41 <mzanetti> and, I would really want some designer to give some advice too 15:41 <popey> they were showing off a bunch of apps here which are landing converged views 15:41 * mzanetti waves at JMulholland 15:41 <mzanetti> that helps a lot 15:41 <popey> I think he has a call at this time. I will go and have a chat with him 15:41 <popey> Addressbook and messaging app 15:41 * JMulholland waves back at mzanetti 15:41 <mzanetti> :D 15:41 <popey> they have some nice designs for converged view 15:42 <popey> which morph nicely between portait and landscape 15:42 <mzanetti> ah ok. messaging app is quite similar 15:42 <mzanetti> I'll check that out then to get some inspiration 15:42 <popey> Another thing that works nicely in landscape is file manager 15:42 <JMulholland> well, the messaging app was preceded by our work on Dekko 15:42 <JMulholland> so no suprises there ;) 15:42 <popey> the side panel containing "Places" shrinks when not used 15:42 <mzanetti> hmm... I guess I should check out dekko then :D 15:42 <popey> to make more room for the main panel 15:43 <popey> JMulholland: got a link to the dekko design doc handy for mzanetti ? 15:43 <JMulholland> sure 15:43 <JMulholland> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1aw94i12b7Gc-xwUU2V73uz4H5jknMz8xHoa6mAW6mJc/edit?usp=sharing 15:43 <popey> ta 15:43 <popey> mzanetti: also, i note we don't have copy/paste yet, or it's broken :) 15:44 <popey> I tried to copy out of notes by long pressing, and it didn't work here 15:44 <mzanetti> popey, do you mean ctrl+c/ctrl+v? 15:44 <mzanetti> or the touch longpress thing 15:44 <mzanetti> I think mir/qtmir is lacking support for that still... and I think it works in reminders on X11 15:45 <JMulholland> the wirerfames have fallen a little behind the visual design now (as thats being overhauled and I’ve been spec’ing other things), but I’ll forward those to you too 15:45 <popey> touch long press 15:46 <mzanetti> popey, depends on what branch you used 15:46 <mzanetti> popey, we haven't released that yet 15:46 <mzanetti> popey, that's why I'm pestering you so much about the release 15:46 <popey> ah okay 15:46 <popey> heh, noted ;) 15:46 <popey> trunk doesn't work on desktop either :) 15:47 <popey> x11 15:47 <popey> i mean, i can't highlight a line 15:47 <mzanetti> JMulholland, that's fine for me... I won't implement that spec anyways, just need some inspiration how to handle toolbars/views in reminders 15:47 * mzanetti tries 15:48 <mzanetti> building... 15:49 <mzanetti> This is text from a note 15:49 <mzanetti> copy/pasted that from a note ^ 15:50 <mzanetti> using ctrl+c/ctrl+v 15:50 <mzanetti> text 15:50 <mzanetti> copy/pasted that using mouse only ^ 15:50 <mzanetti> so... 15:50 <popey> did you use the mouse to hilight the line? 15:50 <mzanetti> first time kbd (shift+arrows) 15:50 <mzanetti> second time, double-click 15:51 <popey> ah, you have to be in edit mode? 15:51 <mzanetti> also works in the view mode, but only with double-click, not with click+drag 15:51 <mzanetti> which I think is an issue in the browser tho 15:51 <popey> ok, i believe you :) 15:52 <popey> i can't even hilight a line 15:52 <popey> you using kde? 15:52 <popey> :) 15:52 <mzanetti> no... unity7 15:52 <popey> hm 15:52 <mzanetti> are you running latest trunk? 15:53 <popey> a few days old 15:53 <popey> [M#n6ii reminders-app 0.4+15.04.20141118-0ubunt amd64 Reminders application 15:53 <popey> uh 15:53 <popey> wtf 15:54 <mzanetti> wat? 15:54 <popey> lulz, the version of the archive 15:54 <popey> seems to have removed the one I dpkg installed 15:54 <mzanetti> 20141118 15:54 <mzanetti> dude 15:54 <popey> so yeah, ignore me 15:54 <popey> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=reminders-app 15:54 <popey> we should remove that 15:54 <popey> or update it 15:54 <mzanetti> yeah 15:54 <mzanetti> that sounds like an action point for you :) 15:55 <popey> okay 15:55 <popey> noted 15:55 <popey> which, remove or update? 15:55 <mzanetti> hmm... good question 15:55 <mzanetti> what are the other core apps doing? 15:55 <popey> not being in the archive 15:55 <mzanetti> lol 15:55 <mzanetti> ok... remove then 15:55 <popey> ok. 15:56 <popey> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reminders-app/+bugs 15:56 <popey> uh 15:56 <popey> ok, lets remove 15:56 * popey has noted this 15:57 <mzanetti> popey, what's with that but list? 15:57 <mzanetti> oh 15:57 <mzanetti> bugs we missed because they were filed for the package 15:58 <popey> yeah 15:58 <popey> luckily not many of them :) 15:58 <mzanetti> that's quite recent tho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/reminders-app/+bug/1484421 15:58 <mzanetti> orange circle of death :D 15:58 <mzanetti> seems more a unity/qtmir bug tho 16:00 <popey> i like that name 16:00 <popey> yeah, we can triage that list quickly 16:01 <popey> Okay, so I will push Notes to QA to the store once that merge you mentioned is landed, yes? 16:03 <mzanetti> yes please 16:03 <popey> ok 16:05 <popey> You know, part of me thinks we should update the repo and not remove it 16:05 <popey> It's an evernote client, people always want evernote clients. 16:05 <mzanetti> works for me 16:06 <mzanetti> but I can't maintain it 16:06 <mzanetti> it would need to be you to do the updates etc 16:06 <mzanetti> I can and will try to do my best to fix bugs, also for desktop etc 16:06 <mzanetti> but you'd need to do the package mangling 16:07 <popey> hm. let me have a think :) 16:07 <popey> I'd hate for us to yank it and people not to have a nice way to have the app 16:09 <popey> given we went through the faff of getting it into the archive in the first place 16:09 <popey> makes sense to update it really? 16:09 <popey> okay. I'll see how much effort it is to update it. 16:09 <popey> we dont muck about with packaging much, so shouldn't be too much work :) 16:09 <popey> Anything else? 16:10 <JMulholland> nothing from me, let me know if you need any design help with those toolbars/views mzanetti! 16:11 <mzanetti> popey, I've moved most of those bugs over to the app 16:11 <mzanetti> one of them, which is about the .deb package name is still there 16:11 <mzanetti> popey, I think there's another one about this... something about the evernote plugin 16:11 <mzanetti> if we keep being in the archive we should look at those 16:12 <popey> okay 16:12 <mzanetti> JMulholland, ack, I will 16:12 <popey> oh, hang on, didn't we remove the evernote plugin from the archive? 16:12 <popey> only the sandbox one iirc 16:12 <popey> but yes, i agree 16:12 <mzanetti> I think it is still there, and that's what this bug is about 16:12 <mzanetti> let me find it 16:14 <popey> which bug? 16:14 <mzanetti> can't find it any more :( 16:14 <popey> hah 16:14 <popey> I'll have a look for them 16:14 <popey> no worries 16:14 <mzanetti> popey, ah, one thing that comes to mind still 16:15 <mzanetti> afaik some community apps are currently migrating to jenkins as a service 16:15 * popey pokes balloons 16:15 <mzanetti> i'd be interested in that for reminders too 16:15 <popey> (anyone who mentions jenkins, triggers my balloons ping) 16:15 <mzanetti> I see it as a chance to enable the qmltests 16:16 <popey> Yeah, I don't know the status of that. 16:16 <popey> ooh 16:16 <balloons> haha 16:16 <mzanetti> balloons, think we can try to set that up? 16:16 <balloons> we can enable the qmltests sure. I've been using reminders as a testbed. We just got the prod service online. I mean literally just 10 mins ago 16:17 <popey> hah 16:17 <popey> Timing++ 16:17 <balloons> https://core-apps-jenkins.ubuntu.com/job/reminders-app-ci/ 16:17 <mzanetti> balloons, there are some branches who add even more qmltests for reminders 16:17 <balloons> I'm was going to start testing it this afternoon 16:18 <mzanetti> balloons, if we can get those running I'm confident all future tests will too (at least in the foreseeable future) 16:18 <mzanetti> balloons, if you get that one through a jenkins, you'd be my hero of the week: https://code.launchpad.net/~mzanetti/reminders-app/qmltest3/+merge/253753 16:18 <mzanetti> ;) 16:19 <balloons> whoa.. that's an oldie. 16:19 <mzanetti> yeah... we nerver merged it because well, jenkins couldn't do 16:19 <balloons> is it ready to land? We can certainly land it I think 16:19 <balloons> sounds like a challenge. Sure, let's try 16:19 <mzanetti> I think it should be ready... maybe some conflicts, because it is old, but I could certainly fix them asap 16:19 <balloons> right right 16:25 <popey> Ok, anything else? 16:31 * popey tickles mzanetti 16:32 <mzanetti> hihi 16:32 <mzanetti> no... can't think of anything else atm 16:35 <popey> ok! 16:35 <popey> Thanks chaps! 16:35 <popey> ping me if i dont notice that merge land :) 16:35 <popey> #endmeeting