15:01 <popey> #startmeeting Calculator meeting
15:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 18 15:01:32 2015 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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15:01 <popey> welcome back gang6, good holiday? :)
15:01 <gang6> It was great Holidays in Georgia :-)
15:02 <gang6> The problem with icons was already solved:
15:02 <gang6> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1466518
15:03 <gang6> I will try to push fix later today
15:03 <popey> super! thanks gang6
15:03 <popey> I'll look out for the merge
15:03 <gang6> There are several small MR to approve
15:03 <popey> I uploaded a new calculator app version to the store earlier in the week
15:03 <gang6> Great
15:04 <popey> we should certainly approve those and then look to do another store upload perhaps next week.
15:04 <gang6> I already tested it on BQ 4.5 device
15:04 <rpadovani> I' ll try to review all gang6' s branches in the we
15:05 <gang6> thanks
15:05 <gang6> Convergence sprint:  http://design.canonical.com/2015/06/sdk-convergence-sprint-2015/ Is there any news related to calculator?
15:06 <popey> Not that I'm aware of.
15:07 <gang6> ok
15:07 <popey> I think a lot of focus was on the toolkit
15:07 <gang6> I'm wondering how shell rotation:
15:07 <popey> and some of the apps which have never worked well outside the phone
15:08 <JMulholland> o/
15:08 <gang6> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2015/06/unity-8-shell-rotation-finally-coming-to-ubuntu-phone
15:08 <popey> yeah, calculator is one of the apps that works well when rotated :)
15:08 <gang6> is working with calculator
15:08 <JMulholland> sorry im a few minutes late, someone accosted me on the way back to my laptop
15:08 <gang6> :-)
15:08 <popey> maybe JMulholland can answer your question about the sprint
15:09 <JMulholland> so currently my managers havent let me know there are plans for designs for a convergent calc, if that’s the question
15:09 <JMulholland> I can raise it again next week when the head of apps and platform is back though
15:09 <JMulholland> as popey mentioned, calc currently works very nicely for portrait and landscape on small devices
15:10 <popey> For me, we're good on phone and small form factor landscape devices - like the phone and nexus 7
15:10 <rpadovani> \o/ we did a great job withoun knowing :P
15:10 <popey> where we need to think is on the desktop
15:10 <JMulholland> and it was implied that we’d probably want to constrain it proportions to a similar size at the other extreme (desktop)
15:10 <popey> sorry, in windowed mode
15:10 <JMulholland> not much benefit to a fullscreen desktop calc :P
15:10 <popey> and I think we discussed this in the past already
15:10 <popey> and decided to just constrain the window size, as other calculators do
15:11 <JMulholland> rings a bell popey
15:11 <gang6> :-)
15:11 <rpadovani> right, but we nee unity8 apis to do that
15:11 <popey> so we may need a bug in qtmir
15:11 <gang6> My idea was to run calc in landscape mode for windows mode
15:12 <popey> I agree, it should be default landscape and a specific width
15:12 <JMulholland> sounds like the right move to me gang6
15:12 <gang6> The question is how to detect windows mode...
15:14 <gang6> After introducing new icons, there are conflict of colors between calc icon and application theme:
15:14 <gang6> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calculator-app/+bug/1465241
15:15 <gang6> Should we modify it by ourselfs, or wait for UX?
15:15 <popey> well, the new icon hasn't landed in the store yet, so users don't have that icon
15:16 <popey> it's landed in trunk but I rip it out when I upload to the store
15:16 <popey> so that we can land all the icons together
15:16 <popey> so it's good to get this sorted before I do
15:16 <popey> one for JMulholland  :)
15:16 <JMulholland> I can see if we can get some visual design resource to do a pass at aligning calc with the newer style
15:17 <JMulholland> nothing’s changing in the ux/ functionality, so perhaps they can give us a bit of resource to align the visuals
15:17 <JMulholland> (presumably mostly colours?)
15:17 <gang6> Please make the design according to current implementation
15:18 <gang6> The previous design document is different than current implementation
15:18 <JMulholland> the icon design?
15:18 <JMulholland> I can feed that back to the iconographe, certainly
15:18 <JMulholland> *iconogrpaher
15:19 <gang6> No
15:19 <JMulholland> i.e. align the icon with the style of the calc app itself?
15:20 <gang6> The ubuntu calculator mocks from documentation are different than current Calculator implementation
15:20 <gang6> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EiIELGizPHrd0TY7JdNwULbiqPYfOyEEI5CS87n7QlY/edit?disco=AAAAAVoilNY#slide=id.g37dfaf379_113
15:21 <JMulholland> yes, just looking at them now to rfresh my memory
15:22 <gang6> In the Calc spec there are mix of different calc mockups:
15:22 <gang6> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1EiIELGizPHrd0TY7JdNwULbiqPYfOyEEI5CS87n7QlY/edit?disco=AAAAAVoilNY#slide=id.g3e79f9ef9_140
15:22 <JMulholland> the version i have on my device look similar in style, but there are some differences (e.g. “clear” (app) is backspace (spec) & backspace (app) is square root (spec). is that what you mean
15:22 <JMulholland> aha
15:23 <popey> yes
15:23 <gang6> yes
15:23 <popey> the new design came from kerry and giorgio
15:23 <popey> there were some issues with it, the button layout and some of the feature changes
15:23 <popey> if you could have a review of it, that would be super :)
15:24 <gang6> Yes
15:24 <JMulholland> well the designs in UX specs (rather than visual specs) are generally for illustrative purposes only - the functionality is what matter. So I’ll definitely try and get some time to sort out misslabelled/wrong info (like the examples I gave before)
15:25 <popey> ok
15:27 <popey> Any other issues?
15:27 <gang6> I would prefer to make same small step in the current implementation, rather than revolution
15:27 <popey> +1
15:27 <gang6> If it is possible
15:28 <gang6> It takes much effort to make this calc rock solid
15:28 <JMulholland> any work i do will be to align the spec with whats in the app, as I think everyone agrees calc is in great shape :)
15:28 <rpadovani> sounds great :-)
15:28 <gang6> :-)
15:29 <gang6> Thanks. That's all from my side. It was very nice meeting.
15:29 <JMulholland> thanks!
15:30 <popey> Thanks guys!
15:30 <gang6> @popey
15:30 <meetingology> gang6: Error: "popey" is not a valid command.
15:30 <popey> hehe
15:30 <popey> It should be!
15:30 <popey> #endmeeting