12:01 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting
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12:01 <popey> Hows it going chaps?
12:01 <DanChapman> It's going great thanks.
12:02 <DanChapman> Yourself?
12:02 <popey> super
12:03 <DanChapman> I'm just looking through the new specJMulholland shared this morning di you get a link?
12:03 <DanChapman> oh he's not here
12:05 <popey> I _think_ he's on vacation isn't he faenil ?
12:05 <DanChapman> i thought that was next week?
12:05 <faenil> nope
12:05 <faenil> he should be here, afaik
12:05 <popey> ah okay
12:05 <popey> faenil: is he near you? can you poke him with a stick?
12:05 <faenil> popey: I don't see him atm :)
12:06 <popey> ok.
12:06 <popey> so we can leave comments in the doc if needed
12:06 <DanChapman> Sounds like a plan.
12:07 <DanChapman> Is there any prototypes or apps that switch between single-focus & split view?
12:07 <faenil> James is having troubles connecting to IRC it seems
12:07 <popey> ahh, okay
12:08 <faenil> DanChapman: nope, it's all design atm, afaik
12:08 <DanChapman> meh
12:08 <DanChapman> :)
12:08 <faenil> right? :D :P
12:08 <faenil> that's what you get when you pioneer stuff :D
12:09 <James_Temp> Hi all!
12:09 <DanChapman> Hey!
12:09 <James_Temp> No idea whats going on with my IRC client, am having to join via a browser based alternative
12:09 <James_Temp> sorry for being late
12:09 <faenil> here come a temporary james :D
12:10 <James_Temp> dan just suggested I try this in an email too, seems he and google are in agreement :D
12:10 <James_Temp> Er, Alen suggested, even
12:11 <popey> :D
12:11 <popey> So, thanks for sending the doc James_Temp
12:11 <DanChapman> Yes indeed, thanks
12:11 * DanChapman is just absorbing it atm
12:11 <popey> me too
12:11 <James_Temp> Np, popet, i'll be fleshing out the notes today/tomorrow before i go off on holiday next week
12:11 <faenil> :)
12:11 <popey> awwww
12:12 <popey> poppet, i like that
12:12 <faenil> haha
12:12 <DanChapman> hah
12:12 <James_Temp> Ooops, inadvertent over familiarity there. I haven't even bought you a drink yet!
12:12 <popey> :)
12:13 <popey> So, DanChapman any immediate feedback for James_Temp ?
12:13 <popey> I realise you haven't had the doc long
12:13 <James_Temp> FYI: I need to check in with visual design on the Header section (they're having a design sprint this week)
12:13 <James_Temp> I have wireframes ready, but need to make sure I'm going for the right version
12:14 <James_Temp> Headers, Bottom edge & List components are first up for inclusion in the SDK
12:14 <DanChapman> I havn't got anything immediate atm. They look great! it's more implmentation questions going on in my head atm
12:14 <James_Temp> convergent versions of them, that is
12:15 <DanChapman> although for in line reply I could probably do it for just plaintext messages as a first run? (i don't need a webview for that) html messages is going to be a headache
12:15 <James_Temp> DanChapman take a look and please do let me know if you think there's anything missing or need any more design support for!
12:16 <DanChapman> James_Temp: I will do. I'll add comments to the doc throughout the day
12:16 <James_Temp> DanChapman great
12:16 <faenil> even the bottom edge is still wip isn't it
12:17 <James_Temp> faenil Yes, but unlike header I've not been told of any other approach seriously being considered
12:17 <faenil> (the convergent one, that is)
12:17 <faenil> mm ok
12:17 <James_Temp> faenil last I heard the plan is to support a single bottom edge interaction regardless of panels as well as multiple bottom edge interactions per panel
12:18 <faenil> I think things are moving quite a lot there as well
12:18 <James_Temp> (the later being whats in the first draft of the Convergent Dekko UX spec)
12:18 <DanChapman> so will these new header/bottom edge only be in components 1.3 and up?
12:18 <James_Temp> presumably. do you know faenil?
12:20 <DanChapman> right so it would have to be custom ones until they are available then.
12:20 <faenil> DanChapman: not sure
12:21 <faenil> the bottom edge is quite insecure as well
12:22 <faenil> I had a quick chat with other designers, we should wait for next week (or the next one?) to make sure we have taken some decisions about those things (header, but bottom edge as well, multi panels, etc)
12:22 <faenil> because everything is still moving atm
12:23 <popey> Ok.
12:24 <popey> Makes life a little difficult to move forward on those items for now
12:24 <DanChapman> OK well I am some way off needing them atm anyway. The form factor converging is going to be fiddly with how dekko's event's drive the views
12:24 <popey> Yeah, the good news is you have other things to do :)
12:24 <DanChapman> The never ending list :-)
12:24 <popey> heh
12:25 <popey> So design sprint this week, review/followup next week?
12:25 <popey> Expect final the week after?
12:26 <DanChapman> Who's that question for?
12:26 <DanChapman> :)
12:27 <James_Temp> I don't know for certain popey
12:27 <James_Temp> I do know I'll be back in two weeks (16th June) and will update with the very latest ASAP
12:27 <faenil> I don't know more than what I've said already :/ I just know there are no decisions taken about those elements yet :/
12:28 <popey> Ok.
12:28 <popey> We'll have to wait and see then.
12:28 <popey> No worries.
12:29 <popey> Anything else specific to discuss?
12:30 <DanChapman> Not at the moment
12:30 <popey> Ok, lets wrap then.
12:30 <popey> Thanks guys.
12:30 <James_Temp> Cool, let me know if there's anything else I can do to help between today and tomorrow DanChapman!
12:31 <DanChapman> Thanks everyone
12:31 <popey> #endmeeting