12:01 <popey> #startmeeting dekko 12:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu May 21 12:01:07 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 12:01 <meetingology> 12:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 12:01 <popey> Hows it going chaps? 12:01 <DanChapman> Going good thanks, yourself? 12:01 <popey> ( JMulholland I am in the london office but couldn't find you, and now I'm on wired ethernet, can't move) :D 12:01 <popey> tickety boo 12:01 <JMulholland> :) 12:02 <JMulholland> Was just out inhaling a sandwhich for lunch before the meetings got started ;) 12:02 <popey> hah 12:02 <DanChapman> haha 12:02 <popey> aaaaanyway :) 12:02 <popey> I haven't found someone who can help with background notifications, but I have people I can ask in the office, which i will do this afternoon DanChapman 12:03 <JMulholland> DanChapman what’s your email address Dan? 12:03 <faenil> o/ 12:04 <JMulholland> hi faenil 12:04 <DanChapman> yay! well the service I'm writing at the moment to use unsespended will be able to be called as a hook for polld or whatever service does it. (that's if it is even done like that in the end) 12:04 <faenil> just out of another meeting :D 12:04 <DanChapman> JMulholland: dpniel@ubuntu.com 12:04 <DanChapman> hey faenil 12:06 <JMulholland> cool, sharing some first-draft sketches I’ve been working on for convergent Dekko with you, popey & DanChapman :) 12:06 <JMulholland> check your inboxes! 12:06 * DanChapman just refreshes his brain of revent bugs 12:06 <DanChapman> ooooh! 12:06 <popey> ooh 12:06 * DanChapman looks at that first 12:09 <faenil> hey where are my sketches? :D 12:10 <JMulholland> Just the first few sketches that conver the ‘heart’ of the experience (+ a ‘reply inline’ feature I was asked to consider by design management here) 12:10 <JMulholland> sorry faenil ! whats your email address? 12:10 <faenil> andrea.bernabei@canonical.com 12:10 <faenil> I shouldn't have done that 12:10 <faenil> f***... 12:10 <faenil> well, too late 12:10 <faenil> spammers, I don't fear you 12:11 <JMulholland> haha 12:11 * popey signs faenil up for special deals 12:11 <faenil> :D 12:11 <faenil> I am already receiving a lot of surprisingly targeted UK-related spam on gmail since I moved to London.. 12:12 <faenil> which is quite worrying in the first place...but anyway... 12:12 <DanChapman> There's quite alot here, so the reply inline might be the tricky one. AS we currently use a fullscreen webview for that. 12:12 <popey> brb 12:13 <JMulholland> fair enough DanChapman, I thought it was likely to be one of the ‘bigger asks’ coming out f this design work 12:13 <JMulholland> which is why I started there, so we could talk about it ;) 12:15 <popey> ..back. 12:17 <DanChapman> Sure, so the reason we have to go the with a full screen webview at the moment is not being able to resize a webview to the size of the message. Oxide to dies, so we can't place anything below it at the moment 12:17 <popey> oxide dies? 12:18 <JMulholland> ah 12:18 <DanChapman> popey: yeah I previously spoke to osomon about it and he said we are trying to use oxide in a way it wasn't designed to. 12:19 <popey> ugh 12:19 <DanChapman> webkit could handle it semi ok but it was still hacky working around the double flickable 12:23 <DanChapman> I wonder if we could do it with a custom c++ component. I'll have a think about it 12:23 <popey> Might be better than trying to twist oxide or webkit to the needs.. 12:25 <DanChapman> JMulholland: regards to moving the settings will that be in the header of all views or just specific ones? 12:25 <JMulholland> My intention was to have it available in the inbox (for phones) 12:26 <JMulholland> with the convergent combination view, it would be there whenever the inbox list is visible too 12:28 <DanChapman> ok cool 12:29 <DanChapman> are we losing the blue header aswell? personally i like both so i'm not fussed which it is 12:29 <JMulholland> Yea, that reflects the current direction the visual designers are header with the style 12:30 <JMulholland> so we’ll end up with Dekko looking like part of the ‘ubuntu app’ family if we go this way :) 12:30 <DanChapman> Excellent! 12:31 <popey> "current direction" :) 12:31 <popey> So we can consider dekko & music as the leaders here. 12:31 <DanChapman> oh one more thing, how will settings be displayed on the wider views? We have quite alot of settings already and alot more coming 12:31 <popey> And other apps can pick up on cues from those. 12:33 <JMulholland> Still working through that DanChapman (as it will effect all of our convergent apps with settings view) 12:33 <JMulholland> Im considering constraining a ‘settings’ view to the left column/inbox list area. but need to sketch that out to see how it looks/ whether it feels weird 12:33 <DanChapman> JMulholland: ok great :) is there anywhere you would like me to leave comments/questions as I think of them? 12:34 <JMulholland> Just a sneak peek, I’ll be putting these into a delta/convergence dekko UX Spec, which I’ll be reviewing with design management next wekk 12:34 <JMulholland> *week 12:34 <JMulholland> Will be a doc, so I’ll be sure to share it with you and would welcome your input and comments! 12:35 <DanChapman> awesome, thanks for you work on this so far :-) 12:35 <popey> Yeah, great to see this moving forward! 12:35 <popey> Ok, anything else to discuss? 12:36 <DanChapman> not at the moment 12:36 <DanChapman> faenil: btw thanks for digging into that bottom edge issue, I can easily reproduce it now. 12:37 <faenil> no problem :) 12:37 <faenil> I was working on bottom-edge-related stuff, so I couldn't just close my eyes and ignore it :) 12:37 <popey> right, thanks then everyone. 12:38 <JMulholland> cheers all! 12:38 <popey> #endmeeting