12:01 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting 12:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Apr 30 12:01:17 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 12:01 <meetingology> 12:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 12:01 <DanChapman> hello! 12:01 <popey> How are we doing chaps? 12:01 <faenil> great, as usual! \o/ 12:01 <DanChapman> Doing good thanks. Got a big update landed yesterday, so i'm happy 12:02 <JMulholland> hi all! 12:02 <JMulholland> doing well here, have some engineers over for a sprint so it’s proving to be a busy week :) 12:02 <popey> Seems more people are using dekko, I'm seeing a number of bugs coming in. 12:02 <DanChapman> Hey JMulholland 12:03 <DanChapman> popey: yeah there has been some good bugs found last couple of days 12:03 <DanChapman> Some are broken imap servers, not sure if we should workaround them or not atm 12:05 <DanChapman> Right so i'm a bit confused on how the workflow is going to work if we need to use UOA for polld notifications. As that will mean seperating SMTP accounts from IMAP 12:05 <DanChapman> How will this change our current setup wizardy steps 12:06 <popey> Hm. 12:07 <DanChapman> also migration isn't going to happen as we can't add accounts to UOA from outside the service 12:07 <popey> UOA will only be used for a limited set of accounts though? Or generic ? 12:07 <DanChapman> popey: generic 12:07 <popey> Yeah, I don't think we have enough users to make migration an important thing to do 12:07 <DanChapman> So there would be generic IMAP & SMTP providers 12:07 <popey> or try to - knowing how hard it would be 12:07 <popey> ok 12:09 <DanChapman> For gmail and outlook we would only need to use the one provider for both imap & smtp. 12:10 <popey> I think we need to bring this up with the UOA guys. 12:11 <popey> Perhaps we get some account data from UOA, and the rest we prompt for? 12:11 <DanChapman> right so would it be a case of "you need to reconfigure everything" or is it a case of don't break the existing right now and warn of deprecation in a coming update so re-configure it? 12:11 <popey> with the fields filled in? 12:11 <DanChapman> sorry mines about migration :-) 12:11 <popey> ok 12:11 <popey> I would like whatever I have to carry on working. 12:11 <popey> Don't break existing installs. 12:12 <popey> But, for new users, they can setup via UOA. 12:12 <popey> and if someone _wants_ to migrate, they need to do it manually. 12:12 <DanChapman> ok cool I agree with that. 12:14 <DanChapman> Ahh i see how this is going to work now 12:14 <DanChapman> right next... 12:14 <DanChapman> :-) 12:14 <popey> :) 12:16 <DanChapman> Do we need to start thinking about tablet layouts soon? 12:18 <JMulholland> It wouldn’t hurt to get ahead of covergence a little… 12:18 <JMulholland> never too soon to start thinking about tablets/ desktop ;) 12:20 <popey> Yes! 12:20 <popey> We are creating a converged desktop image in this cycle 12:20 <popey> based on unity8 / mir etc. 12:20 <popey> Would be great to show off dekko running in multiple form factors. 12:21 <DanChapman> JMulholland: indeed :-) The reason i ask is our 3 main views Mailbox list messgae list and message view all depend on a page being pushed for each to function properly. But in reality on a desktop they are going to lay next to each other. 12:21 <DanChapman> popey: ahh so it might be better to tackle this sooner rather than later then 12:22 <popey> indeed. 12:22 * DanChapman was trying to guage how long he could put it off 12:22 <popey> hah 12:22 <popey> well we need to figure out how much work it is 12:22 <DanChapman> ok then. Some UX designs would be good for that then :-D 12:22 <popey> and how to integrate that (and not break) the existing app 12:23 <DanChapman> that could be a good topic for UOS if i can make it 12:24 <popey> +1 12:24 <DanChapman> cool 12:25 <DanChapman> i'm not sure where boren is up to with contacts, i think he is tied up elsewhere atm 12:25 <DanChapman> popey: have you seen the contacts support UX bits from gventuri?? 12:25 <JMulholland> I’ll take a look at sketching out some wireframes ASAP Dan! 12:26 <DanChapman> :-D awesome thanks! 12:26 <popey> No. 12:26 <DanChapman> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1UGddusaEb9JRox8Lv-qa5baqs13zEq1l3g4m5qblk1M/edit#slide=id.gae74895aa_5_0 12:27 <popey> ooh! 12:28 <popey> So am I right in thinking we keep a separate address book? 12:28 <popey> but can import from contacts app? 12:30 <DanChapman> popey: yes that is the plan (short term) You will be able to mass import from contacts-app but you can manage your create/read/edit etc in dekko. 12:30 <DanChapman> manage your own* 12:31 <popey> ok 12:31 <popey> Gotcha 12:32 <DanChapman> I don't think I have anything else right now, notifications andcontacts are the two biggies. 12:32 <popey> Ok. 12:32 <DanChapman> shall we finish on time? 12:32 <DanChapman> :-D 12:33 <popey> ish 12:33 <popey> Well, let me know whether you're around for UOS next week. 12:33 <DanChapman> popey: should find out by tomorrow so will do 12:33 <popey> If not, we can schedule a meeting maybe with some additional folks outside UOS 12:33 <popey> ok. 12:33 <DanChapman> popey: cool sounds good to me 12:33 <popey> Ok, thanks guys. 12:33 <popey> #endmeeting