13:11 <popey> #startmeeting Weather 13:11 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Apr 24 13:11:34 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:11 <meetingology> 13:11 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:11 <popey> so i guess JMulholland introduced himself to you m-b-o :) 13:12 <m-b-o> so it is! 13:12 <JMulholland> :D 13:13 <popey> So, I wanted to catch up with you guys about the weather reboot and see how it's going 13:13 <popey> couple of links.. 13:13 <popey> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+spec/weather-reboot 13:14 <popey> hmm, can't find the link to the google doc with the designs 13:14 <m-b-o> https://docs.google.com/presentation/d/1tXcyMBvJAYvwFvUAmTTYzmBP2NFQgbG_Gy8e2gv91kU/edit#slide=id.p 13:14 <popey> https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1qJ4wzwHsHGNb7GDVjrarMUj4lyro-dLR2_4Xu1b5vQU/edit#slide=id.p 13:14 <JMulholland> ta 13:14 <popey> hah, you beat me 13:14 * popey adds that to the blueprint so he doesn't lose it again 13:16 <m-b-o> one thing we noticed, is that there's no design for the weather data of the current day 13:16 <m-b-o> wind, humidity and so 13:17 <JMulholland> aha 13:17 <m-b-o> and/or how to reach it then... :) 13:18 <JMulholland> I know that giorgio and kerry were going for a very minimalist style in how the app looks 13:18 <JMulholland> but if nothing else, we could do it on the hourly forcast screen? 13:19 <JMulholland> under ‘chance of rain’ and next to the temp/high/low there’s space on the right 13:19 <JMulholland> might be able to place the info there 13:19 <JMulholland> that way the initial ‘today’ screen is still clean and minimal as girogio/kerry propossed 13:19 <m-b-o> yes, that's good. this way it would be seen immediately 13:22 <m-b-o> next thing is "pull to refresh" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1429484 13:22 <m-b-o> we've already implemented a pull to refresh in reboot now, by dragging the whole screen from the top 13:22 <JMulholland> Ah, yes, 13:23 <JMulholland> I was asked to comment on this some time ago, but only had the bug sharred with me yesterday :) 13:23 <JMulholland> personally I am a fan of pull to refresh, and the pattern is used elsewhere (e.g. scopes) 13:23 <JMulholland> so we dont have to worry about introducing hints ot anything to the design 13:24 <m-b-o> so you think, it's okay in the current form in reboot? (besides the background color) 13:25 <popey> JMulholland: i have a click package of the current version of the app 13:25 <popey> i can provide you details of how to install 13:25 <popey> and you can test it. 13:25 <JMulholland> I do, but I want to give rae a chance to explain her side. She’s out of office today, but i’ve made a note to have a quick catch up with her about it on monday before i comment on the bug 13:25 <JMulholland> that would be great, thanks alan! 13:26 <JMulholland> as for a refreshing/ loading animation Rae mentioned, I’d recommend placing it at the bottom of the screen ‘behind’ the bottom-edge hint 13:26 <JMulholland> consistant with other apps/scopes and we dont have to worry about the lack of a title bar to position it under that rae mentiones 13:27 <m-b-o> sounds good, I'll mak e a blueprint for this 13:28 <popey> JMulholland: http://people.canonical.com/~alan/clicks/com.ubuntu.weather_3.0._armhf.click 13:28 <popey> JMulholland: adb push com.ubuntu.weather_3.0._armhf.click /tmp 13:28 <popey> JMulholland: adb shell 13:29 <popey> JMulholland: pkcon install-local --allow-untrusted /tmp/com.ubuntu.weather_3.0._armhf.click 13:29 <popey> ^ make a note of that :) 13:29 <JMulholland> already ctrl+c/v’ed into a text file ;) 13:29 <JMulholland> thanks a mill alan! 13:31 <m-b-o> One question left from my side about the "current location" and how to handle it? 13:32 <m-b-o> respectively what to do, if now location is known... 13:32 <m-b-o> "no" 13:32 <popey> So, user first turns on phone, opens weather app, hasn't connected to wifi, and hasn't accepted the Nokia HERE agreement. 13:32 <popey> We have no way to know where they are. 13:33 <popey> On iOS you just get told "enable location" basically 13:33 <JMulholland> well we have location picking from lists, so we could go one better and say ‘enable location OR pick from lists’? 13:35 <m-b-o> Guess this is the corresponding bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bug/1432263 13:36 <JMulholland> assigned it to myself 13:37 <JMulholland> will follow up once I’ve thought through our options a little 13:37 <m-b-o> thanks! 13:38 <m-b-o> popey I'll have a look on GPS over the course of next week 13:38 <popey> Excellent, thanks. 13:40 <popey> Are there any other things you're blocking on? 13:41 <m-b-o> oh yes 13:41 <m-b-o> https://code.launchpad.net/~ahayzen/ubuntu-weather-app/reboot-day-delegate-expand/+merge/255264 13:41 <m-b-o> homw many days in the daily forecast should/can be expanded? 13:42 <popey> one makes sense to me 13:42 <JMulholland> agree 13:43 <m-b-o> and when location is changed, the leaved view is "resetted"? Expanded forecasts closed and view back to the top? 13:44 <m-b-o> or should the state of a location view be preserved? 13:46 <popey> Hmm. 13:47 <popey> Not sure, I can see why it might make sense to reset on switching view. 13:48 <m-b-o> i for myself lose orientation thn, when the location name is not shown (when scrolled down before) 13:48 <popey> right, yes. 13:49 <JMulholland> If ive understood correctly; 13:50 <JMulholland> Im always reluctant to force changes in the UI automatically/ without user input… 13:51 <JMulholland> So i’d say the current page is preserved even if location changes, until the user navigates away from that view or restarts the app? 13:51 <m-b-o> ok 13:51 <JMulholland> that’s my instinct at least 13:52 <popey> ok 13:52 <m-b-o> as it is in reboot now. Let us stay with the current way and revisit it later on, if it doesn't work? 13:52 <JMulholland> sounds good to me 13:52 <m-b-o> alright, will comment on the MP 13:56 <popey> Ok, anything else? 13:58 <m-b-o> nope 13:58 <JMulholland> ok, good meeting you martin :) 13:58 <m-b-o> dito! :) 13:59 <popey> \o/ 13:59 <popey> Thanks m-b-o JMulholland 13:59 <popey> Have a great weekend. 13:59 <JMulholland> You too popey! 13:59 <m-b-o> thank you all, have a nice weekend too! 14:00 <popey> #endmeeting