12:03 <popey> #startmeeting Dekko meeting
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12:03 <popey> How are you!
12:03 <DanChapman> I'm good thanks, how are you?
12:03 <faenil> hello o/
12:04 <DanChapman> hi faenil o/
12:04 <popey> Super.
12:05 <DanChapman> So seems topic of today on g+ is notifications
12:05 <popey> Yeah, I saw.
12:06 <DanChapman> well most days it get's mentioned, so I think we need to come up with *something*. ogra suggested a snappy app for it but I really don't want to go that route.
12:06 <DanChapman> hey boren o/
12:06 <boren> hi
12:07 <DanChapman> popey: when we converge to the desktop will these lifecycle policies be relaxed?
12:07 <popey> So from our side I need to find someone who can help with this.
12:07 <popey> Almost certainly not.
12:07 <popey> Turns out the guy who was to work on it, has left :(
12:07 <popey> I'll speak to Pat and find another resource.
12:07 <popey> so it's not all on you guys.
12:08 <popey> we had the +1 to work on it, but need to find someone
12:08 <DanChapman> ok great thanks.
12:10 <DanChapman> Right so at the moment i'm working on the massive amount of new settings coming https://dekkoproject.atlassian.net/wiki/display/DEK/App+Settings+Specification gventuri is still ironing out some of the UX for it
12:11 <popey> ok
12:11 <DanChapman> The biggest feature will be per mailbox settings so you can configure certain actions to only be applied to s specific mailbox. Kind of like the old Mulberry email app used to do
12:12 <DanChapman> boren: is going to be doing something for contacts support, which is much needed
12:12 <DanChapman> But the UX of that is going to be a bit weird so it would be good to get design input on that
12:13 <DanChapman> Like importing from contacts-app, are we able to filter for contacts that have an email address. Otherwise a mass import will have contacts with no addresses
12:14 <popey> well, you could throw away the ones with no email?
12:14 <popey> not save them
12:15 <DanChapman> yeah we can do that. either way we need to import them to provide type ahead searching.
12:16 <popey> Right.
12:17 <DanChapman> And how can we view a list of imported contacts? Not including type ahead. There will be cases where you would want to go and pick multile addresses rather than type ahead search each one
12:17 <DanChapman> And how would we access that list.
12:18 <DanChapman> Where can we document these questions for UX input?
12:19 <DanChapman> gventuri isn't about as much atm, and I don't know how much time he has
12:19 <popey> Hm.
12:20 <popey> faenil: any ideas, if gventuri isn't about?
12:20 <popey> (I mean, who can we hound in design) :)
12:20 <faenil> I'd say ask Jouni, but he's not here today :/
12:22 <popey> DanChapman: you in email contact with gventuri?
12:23 <DanChapman> popey: I am yes. Do I just continue to hound him then :-D
12:24 <popey> yes :)
12:24 <popey> for now.
12:25 <popey> if it turns out he's got other commitments which preclude him being involved, then so be it
12:25 <popey> That's the same for any of our community projects.
12:25 <DanChapman> ok cool, boren i'll CC you in about the contacts stuff
12:25 <boren> Thanks
12:27 * DanChapman had something else to say but it's escaped his mind
12:28 <popey> FYI there is an update for the BQ phone being tested right now.
12:28 <popey> Based on RTM
12:28 <popey> (so not vivid)
12:28 <popey> Which will (if QA passes) go out to phones next week / week after.
12:28 <popey> We're then looking at the next update to go out to be vivid based.
12:29 <popey> So if there's anything vivid-specific you want to use then you're looking at 3-4 weeks or more before users get vivid in their purchased phones.
12:29 <DanChapman> popey: let me get this right, if the lifecycle policies are unlikely to change for the desktop then Dekko will never be able to run in the background? r have i missunderstood?
12:30 <DanChapman> ok cool so just stick with rtm target for now then
12:31 <popey> Well, the lifecycle policy is not set in stone.
12:31 <popey> If there's things that we need changing in it, then we need to lobby hard for it. Justify the change.
12:31 <DanChapman> Like an email client being allowed to stay connected to the server ;-p
12:32 <popey> indeed.
12:33 <DanChapman> on a different note, is there any update on that community fund application? I really want to get these performance problems sorted
12:33 <popey> let me ask msm.. it was +1'ed
12:34 <DanChapman> excellent, thanks alot
12:35 <DanChapman> boren, have you got any concerns/questions atm?
12:35 <boren> Anyway to send message to webview?
12:36 <DanChapman> What message do you want to send? there is the frame.sendMessage API
12:36 <faenil> I'll run to grab lunch, cya later guys o/
12:36 <boren> Like to check whether a contact is saved
12:36 <faenil> or if there's anything I can help with, shoot now :)
12:37 <faenil> or feel free to contact me privately :)
12:37 <boren> I will look into that.
12:37 <popey> thanks faenil
12:37 <DanChapman> faenil: nothing right now. But i most probably will having something at some point :-)
12:37 <DanChapman> thanks
12:37 <faenil> ok, cool :) cya o/
12:39 <DanChapman> boren, we can ask daker to figure that part out, as he's working on the messageview template atm. Could you create an issue to say what it is and how you want it to work
12:40 <boren> DanChapman: sure
12:40 <DanChapman> boren, thanks. also check out the msg-json-builder branch to see where it's up to :-) it's rather cool how he has done it
12:41 <popey> does that use oxide?
12:42 <popey> (might need extra testing as I believe a new oxide landed in the rtm image being tested now)
12:42 <DanChapman> popey: yep
12:42 <popey> ok, if you have a click, I can test on latest image on my krillin
12:42 <popey> when you need to :)
12:42 <DanChapman> oh cool, i wonder if the random crashes has been fixed. Sure i'll get one built, need lots of testing atm :-)
12:44 <popey> heh
12:44 <popey> ok, anything else?
12:45 <DanChapman> no not atm for me
12:46 <boren> I have none
12:46 <popey> \o/
12:46 <popey> Thanks chaps.
12:46 <DanChapman> Excellent, thanks guys
12:47 <popey> #endmeeting