17:29 <popey> #startmeeting Clock meeting 17:29 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jan 15 17:29:26 2015 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 17:29 <meetingology> 17:29 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 17:29 <popey> Long time no see! 17:29 <nik90_> yeah I have been moving houses and holidays on top of that 17:30 <popey> Golly! 17:30 <nik90_> how is everything going? 17:30 <popey> Great! 17:30 <popey> :) 17:30 <popey> Wanted to catch up with you on a few fronts. 17:30 <nik90_> I feel like I have missed quite a bit in the ubuntu touch land that I need to catch up on 17:30 <nik90_> go ahead 17:31 <popey> Ok, so first we need to review bugs and see if there's anything which urgently needs resolving. 17:31 <popey> The alarms bug I believe charles is on top of. 17:31 <nik90_> yeah I pinged him about that 17:31 <popey> But wanted to know if there's anything else that we should attempt to land soon. 17:31 <popey> feb 6th is when people will start getting phones in their hands 17:31 <popey> and wider a week or so after that 17:32 <nik90_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1362341 17:32 <nik90_> the above bug requires 2 fixes - one in indicator-dt and the other in clock app 17:32 <nik90_> the i-dt fix has landed 17:32 <popey> ok. 17:33 <nik90_> however the clock app fix is a bit tricky since it introduces a very minor visual flicker noticeable by the user 17:33 <popey> That's a clock issue or a toolkit one? 17:33 <nik90_> I discussed with zsombor and thinks we cant do much about it 17:33 <nik90_> toolkit one 17:34 <nik90_> related to the sdk alarms backend..its been fixed in vivid...but the patch size (~10k code change) is too big to backport at this stage 17:34 <popey> agreed 17:34 <nik90_> I rather introduce the visual flicker which is triggered only when the user switched to the clock app from another app i.e when clock app gains focus 17:35 <popey> We'll switch to vivid at some point 17:36 <nik90_> yeah 17:36 <nik90_> in vivid alarms is broken even more 17:36 <popey> was zsombor's reply "we can't fix this" or "we can't fix this right now"? 17:36 <nik90_> in rtm there is not much we can do to fix this 17:36 <nik90_> since it has been fixed in vivid, we just wait for the transition to vivid 17:37 <popey> right. 17:37 <nik90_> tbh, the flicker happens when you add a new alarm as well 17:37 <nik90_> its barely noticeable 17:38 <nik90_> I mean with the current clock app in store 17:39 <popey> at what point? 17:39 <popey> is it easy to reproduce? 17:39 <nik90_> yeah it is easy to reproduce. Ensure you have 2-3 alarms saved already and enabled. Then create a new alarm and save it. 17:40 <nik90_> at that point you will notice all the alarm switches refreshing (flickering) once 17:40 <popey> oh that 17:40 <popey> yes, i see that all over the place 17:40 <popey> not just clock 17:40 <popey> thats a really annoying UI glitch IMO 17:41 <nik90_> well it happens in the clock app since the entire alarm model is refreshed when adding a new alarm 17:41 <nik90_> zsombor fixed it to only affect the new alarm in vivid 17:41 <popey> right 17:42 <popey> So IMO I agree, I would land that fix 17:42 <nik90_> the thing is that in vivid, the alarms is broken where one cannot even edit alarms..and thereby I am not comfortable with requesting the new alarms backend to be backported to rtm just yet. 17:43 <popey> Agreed 17:43 <nik90_> ok. I will create a MP with the fix and get it approved. 17:43 <popey> Thanks. 17:43 <nik90_> and then ping you before merging to trunk 17:43 <popey> Ping me if I don't see it and I'll organise a store upload 17:43 <popey> yes. 17:43 <popey> The slight gotcha.. 17:43 <nik90_> oh also, since 3.2.165 up until now, there have only 4 commits which do code changes to clock. 17:43 <popey> we have to manually test apps with QA if they're in the default image 17:44 <nik90_> I have listed them in http://pad.ubuntu.com/kY99vztlmS 17:44 <nik90_> yeah I knew about that protocol 17:44 <popey> perfect 17:44 <popey> ok. 17:44 <popey> So I am writing a set of clock test cases which we will give to davmor2 (probably) to test clock before we land in store. 17:44 <nik90_> all of 4 commits are minor and approved by ppl like zsombor, leo, dpm etc 17:44 <nik90_> ack. 17:45 <nik90_> do also send me a copy, and I can add them to the clock app manual test suite if they aren't there already 17:45 <popey> do you already have manual tests ? 17:45 <nik90_> yeah..I have been running them before every store upload (last 2-3 ones atleast) 17:46 <popey> I will put them http://pad.ubuntu.com/ClockAppManualTesting 17:46 <popey> when I write them 17:46 <nik90_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/tests/manual/2014.com.ubuntu.clock:clock-tests/jobs/alarms.pxu 17:46 <nik90_> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/utopic-3.0/view/head:/tests/manual/2014.com.ubuntu.clock:clock-tests/jobs/setting.pxu 17:46 <nik90_> ok 17:47 <popey> Do you have a rough ETA ? 17:47 <nik90_> for the MP? 17:47 <popey> yes 17:47 <popey> so I can prioritise and get davmor2 lined up 17:47 <nik90_> tomorrow for sure 17:47 <nik90_> its a 5 lines patch 17:48 <popey> oh great. 17:48 <popey> I'll look out for it. 17:48 <nik90_> ok 17:49 <popey> Any other bugs we should discuss? 17:49 <nik90_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ux/+bug/1354370 17:50 <nik90_> this required the designers to come with a more bolder default alarm sound 17:50 <popey> hah 17:50 <nik90_> once they do, I need to set it as default in the clock app 17:50 <popey> ok. 17:50 <popey> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2VhB7vaZI0 17:50 <popey> that will do 17:50 <nik90_> yeah mzanetti's bugs are always practical ones 17:50 <davmor2> I don't want lining up :P 17:50 <nik90_> lol 17:51 <nik90_> popey: btw would the patch for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-geonames/+bug/1359206 be merged by IS? 17:52 <popey> ooh, good call 17:52 <popey> I need to chase that up. 17:52 <popey> thanks 17:52 <nik90_> we could then remove the dependence on an external service 17:52 <nik90_> I am basically listing the bugs from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+milestone/ota-1 17:53 <nik90_> I need to move many of them to later milestones 17:53 <popey> ok. 17:53 <nik90_> since they are frozen due to design queries 17:53 <popey> Have you had any conversations with design about stop watch and timer? 17:53 <nik90_> no 17:53 <popey> ok 17:55 <popey> Any other bugs you won't be bumping but feel we need to address sooner? 17:55 <nik90_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1354466 17:56 <nik90_> I dont have the expertise to handle this one ^^ 17:56 <nik90_> its a more complex one, not sure if we can make time for this one 17:57 <popey> it references https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1354522 ? 17:57 <popey> which is fixed? 17:57 <nik90_> yes the other one is fixed 17:57 <popey> ok 17:57 <nik90_> the issue is that the clock app stores a default city list in xml file 17:58 <nik90_> xml files are not ready by the translation framework 17:58 <nik90_> and is the hard part 17:58 <popey> ah 17:58 <popey> so you'd need multiple xml files perhaps, one per lang? 17:59 <nik90_> yeah 17:59 <nik90_> and a code change in clock app to use the right file 18:00 <popey> hmm 18:02 <popey> ~277 entries in there 18:02 <popey> for launch I don't think we need to translate all of them to every language 18:02 <popey> (also, this must already be done, surely)? 18:02 <nik90_> I was told by Albert that city and country names are already translated in other projects 18:02 <nik90_> so it would be just recommended by the launchpad webui 18:03 <nik90_> which we can just choose 18:06 <popey> ok. 18:06 <popey> is that something you'd have time to look at? 18:07 <nik90_> I don't know how to fix this bug since I am not familiar with the translation stuff..I did try finding out how to fix it, but couldn't understand the solution. 18:08 <popey> ah okay. 18:08 <popey> I'll poke dpm in the morning and see what sagely advice he has 18:08 <nik90_> :D 18:09 * popey adds a to-do 18:09 <popey> Ok, anything else? :) 18:10 <nik90_> nothing for now :) 18:12 <popey> ok. 18:12 <popey> Lets wrap... 18:12 <popey> #endmeeting