13:10 <popey> #startmeeting Music App meeting 13:10 <meetingology> Meeting started Mon Dec 1 13:10:25 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:10 <meetingology> 13:10 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:10 <popey> how you are you? Good weekend? 13:10 <ahayzen> yeah good weekend thanks you? 13:11 <popey> Yeah, afk most of it \o/ 13:11 <ahayzen> \o/ 13:11 <popey> First thing I wanted to mention, we plan to have hack days next week 13:12 <popey> so will set a milestone for week 50 (!) 13:12 <popey> and we can target bugs for that week 13:12 <ahayzen> yey :) are we having specific days for apps again? 13:12 <popey> We usually do, yeah. 13:12 <popey> Do you have a preference? 13:12 <ahayzen> ..is it spanning over a weekend as well? or is it midweek? 13:13 <popey> Just during the week. 13:13 <ahayzen> ah cool 13:14 <ahayzen> well i think all i have next week is java cwk for tuesday and then the exams start on saturday :/ 13:14 <ahayzen> ugh saturday exams :'( 13:14 <popey> ouch 13:14 <popey> should be laws against that 13:14 <ahayzen> +1 13:15 <ahayzen> so like wednesday would probably be cool 13:15 <popey> ok 13:17 <popey> So in terms of current development, do you already have targetted things for ota-1? 13:17 <ahayzen> yep https://blueprints.launchpad.net/music-app/+spec/music-ota-1 13:17 <ahayzen> that probably needs some of the status updating 13:18 <popey> outstanding things from jouni still... 13:18 <ahayzen> like pretty much all of them are WIP ... or as i was about to come round to.... waiting on design 13:18 <ahayzen> we don't know whether to continue waiting on design for things or just to progress on with what we have 13:19 <popey> he's afk right now 13:20 <ahayzen> but like if you look at the active reviews + wip branches they are all waiting on design 13:20 <popey> right, let me poke them after the meeting 13:20 <ahayzen> thanks 13:24 <popey> Ok. So other than what you guys have for ota, and the blockage, do we have anything else important to discuss? 13:25 <popey> Are there any mediascanner / media-hub related issues? 13:26 <ahayzen> heh i don't think any blockage but we need to have a discussion with the media-hub guys about how todo suspension+background playlists when they get around to implementing it (probably closer to '15) 13:26 <popey> '15? 13:26 <ahayzen> 2015 13:26 <popey> ah 13:27 <popey> yeah, i haven't seen that on the upcoming roadmap 13:27 <ahayzen> and then how and if we support images that don't have it etc 13:28 <popey> right 13:28 <popey> so I have had this conversation with the store guys multiple times 13:29 <popey> their opinion (as I think I've mentioned) is that we shouldn't get into a situation where we "need" to have multiple versions of apps in the store 13:29 <ahayzen> i sense we are going to be having it again at some point 13:29 <popey> well, anyone who buys a (for example) BQ phone today, would not get an update to the music app 13:29 <popey> because the new new new one needs framework 2015 or whatever 13:30 <ahayzen> yep assuming they can't update to a later framework/image 13:30 <popey> so they would just update their phone OTA to the image which has 2015 framework 13:30 <popey> well, they will be able to ☻ 13:30 <popey> thats the plan ☻ 13:30 <ahayzen> :) 13:30 <popey> Don't leave devices behind 13:30 <ahayzen> i still think the idea, which they seemed to suggest they were going todo, of having a stable and beta click in the store will cover most use cases? 13:31 <popey> that will happen anyway 13:31 <popey> but the overall goal is "don't fragment", "don't leave devices behind" 13:31 <popey> so we shouldn't get in the situation you're describing 13:31 <ahayzen> then we can patch the 'stable' if it needs fixes while working on the 'beta' with the new framework 13:31 <popey> could do, but shouldn't be necessary, we'll see ☻ 13:31 <ahayzen> Victor brought that ^^ idea up on the mailing list a while back 13:34 <popey> One for the new year I think ☻ 13:34 <ahayzen> popey, has there been any bugs/feedback from QA/product owners we need to act on? 13:34 <ahayzen> popey, yeah probably :) 13:36 <popey> Nope! 13:36 <popey> All quiet on the western front 13:36 <popey> We're getting incoming bugs from the external QA people 13:36 <popey> but I've not seen any music ones 13:36 <ahayzen> :) 13:36 <ahayzen> no news is good news :) 13:36 <popey> oh, found one 13:36 <ahayzen> uhoh lol7 13:37 <popey> only one! 13:37 <ahayzen> on too many though 13:37 <popey> play music, start making a video with camera app, music doesn't pause. 13:37 <ahayzen> no us \o/ 13:37 <popey> not a music app bug i suspect media-hub / camera-app 13:37 <popey> yeah 13:37 <ahayzen> *not 13:38 <popey> Our work here is done! :D 13:38 <ahayzen> haha exactly 13:38 <popey> i will keep an eye out for them though and forward any to the music app bug tracker 13:38 <popey> (they're private bugs at the moment) 13:39 <ahayzen> thanks :)...so the big question is should i be on ubuntu-touch/ubuntu-rtm/devel-proposed or devel-proposed ? 13:39 <popey> yes 13:39 <popey> :D 13:39 <popey> i run rtm devel-proposed 13:39 * ahayzen notes aGPS doesn't seem to appear as an option on devel-proposed only on rtm 13:40 <ahayzen> but we haven't had any exciting updates in ages on rtm :( 13:40 <popey> yeah, it's slowing down 13:40 <popey> a gold image went out last week 13:40 <popey> rate of churn is low 13:41 <ahayzen> yeah :/ 13:41 <popey> mind you, if you switch to vivid, you'll get change ☻ 13:41 <ahayzen> yeah i did....and i lost aGPS or something 13:41 <popey> ah 13:41 <ahayzen> so quickly switched back after it crashed a few times as well 13:43 <popey> Ok. Any other issues to discuss? 13:44 <ahayzen> i don't think so ... just poking design :) hehe 13:44 <popey> yeah 13:44 <popey> will do 13:45 <ahayzen> thanks :) 13:45 <popey> Have a great week! 13:45 <popey> #endmeeting