13:01 <popey> #startmeeting Calendar app meeting 13:01 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Oct 2 13:01:57 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:01 <meetingology> 13:01 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:02 <popey> How we doing? 13:02 <mihir> we , ehehe..doing great :D 13:03 <kunal> doing fine, how about you> 13:04 <popey> Not bad! 13:04 <popey> So, mihir you spoke to renatu earlier in the week about the blocking bugs, right? 13:04 <mihir> popey, yes 13:05 <mihir> popey, already updated on appropriate bug 13:05 <popey> Ok. 13:05 <mihir> popey, but i guess we have to wait till post rtm for those bugs 13:06 <popey> yes. We can beat renatu up at the sprint ☻ 13:06 <mihir> heheheh 13:06 <renatu> hey, I am in another meeting but I am reading that :D 13:06 <popey> :D 13:06 <mihir> renatu, :D 13:07 <popey> he knows we love him 13:07 <popey> we have a few merges at http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/ outstanding 13:07 <popey> shall we go through them? 13:07 <mihir> sure 13:07 <kunal> yes, I just updated my branches 13:07 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/YearView-curmonth-scroll/+merge/230781 ready to land? 13:07 <popey> sweet! 13:07 <kunal> it should be ready to land 13:08 <popey> balloons: you had it needs fixing, you happy now? 13:08 <mihir> popey, i have three branches almost ready to land :) 13:08 <popey> "almost" ☻ 13:09 <mihir> nik90, will be doing testing for one, i am working on other one to fix 13:09 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/RemoveGuest/+merge/235393 is the next one on the list... 13:09 <mihir> this requires review , https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni/ubuntu-calendar-app/1373201/+merge/236260 13:09 <balloons> popey, yes for kunal's branch 13:09 <popey> balloons: thanks! 13:09 * popey top approves 13:10 <balloons> ohh. I just approved. Make sure you timedate it after me 13:11 <kunal> this is also ready to approve 13:11 <kunal> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/MonthComp-Events/+merge/235974 13:11 <mihir> kunal, you did merge trunk ? 13:11 <kunal> yes 13:11 <mihir> ahh done thanks :) 13:11 <popey> excellent 13:11 <mihir> top approved :) 13:12 <kunal> popey, 13:12 <kunal> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1339020 13:12 * popey clicks 13:12 <kunal> so you think its only UI issue ? 13:13 <popey> yes 13:13 <kunal> so you want to launch dayview on click ? 13:13 <kunal> or we can also show dialog box with event list ? 13:14 <popey> hmmm 13:14 <popey> that does make sense. 13:15 <popey> oof, i have an event which has the date "DD-99-YYYY" is that a translation error? 13:15 <kunal> popey, where ? 13:15 <popey> in event details 13:15 <kunal> seems like 13:15 <mihir> opps, popey for all the events ? 13:15 <popey> yes 13:16 <kunal> popey, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1371871 13:16 <kunal> Do you have some idea, how we can get account owner ? 13:17 <popey> can we get that from online-accounts? 13:18 <popey> http://imgur.com/MG3HfdE do you guys not see that on the event page? 13:19 <kunal> this seems old branch ? 13:19 <popey> you have the email address at the top of the event... 13:19 * mihir looks 13:19 <kunal> current design looks different 13:19 <popey> could be, maybe we haven't updated in the store recently? 13:19 <mihir> popey, it is up-to date in store 13:20 <popey> trunk is r486 13:20 <kunal> popey, email ? you are talking about calendar name ? 13:20 <popey> store is r484 13:20 <popey> yes 13:20 <popey> after the date/time 13:20 <kunal> I guess, we can use that, if EDS will use that for all account 13:20 <kunal> what if someone changes calendar name, then 13:20 <popey> yeah, might not be reliable. 13:20 <kunal> it won't be email address 13:21 <popey> hmm, we must have some way to figure out which attendee is "me"? 13:22 <kunal> popey, which API actually sync events from google 13:22 <kunal> not EDS plugin right > 13:22 <kunal> ? 13:22 <kunal> sync-evolution ? 13:22 <popey> yes. 13:23 <kunal> I think sync-evolution or EDS plug-in should be able to insert some meta data into "Collection"(Calendar) which we can use from calendar 13:24 <kunal> metadata, I mean owner of account 13:24 <popey> hmmm 13:24 <kunal> as I think it know which account it uses, it must be using online account and have access to its property ? 13:25 <kunal> can we have multiple google account on phone ? 13:27 <mihir> i guess we can add multiple account 13:28 <popey> yes 13:28 <popey> I have two on mine 13:28 <popey> and in the calendar i see events from both 13:28 <kunal> ok, then I think account info should come from EDS plug-in 13:29 <popey> and obviously in the event detail display we can see who is/isnt attending by the green ticks next to them. 13:29 <kunal> right 13:32 <popey> I'm not sure I'd tag that as "high" priority bug btw, bt if there's no other priorities, then it can be ㋛ 13:33 <mihir> popey, one more question 13:33 <mihir> in weekview it is impossible to read events 13:33 <mihir> what wwould you suggest ? 13:33 <mihir> would* 13:33 <popey> hmm, yeah, it's a bit messy with lots of events 13:34 <mihir> popey, can we just remove all the stuffs inside bubble and just show bubble ? 13:35 <popey> well at the moment on my device in week view we have two issues. 1) text hard to read, and 2) blobs obscure time. 13:35 <mihir> i don't get you on 2nd , you mean the startime endTime cuts off right? 13:36 <popey> photo coming... 13:37 <popey> http://imgur.com/Gy0w68O 13:37 <popey> look at the calendar meeting... 13:37 <popey> 14:00 obscured by the blob 13:37 <nik90> popey: how are you running an older version of calenda r app? 13:37 <nik90> popey: those event bubbles are supposed to be colored 13:38 <popey> let me see if there's any updates 13:38 <popey> i did have to flash my phone into the past recently 13:38 <popey> it says up to date 13:38 <popey> wonder if click is in a mess 13:38 <mihir> popey, hmm i can see that. 13:38 <mihir> popey, i have the latest calendar from store , on RTM 13:39 <popey> balls 13:39 <popey> i have a crappy version on here 13:39 <popey> sorry ☹ 13:39 <mihir> hehehe 13:39 <popey> i have "0.4.latest" 13:40 <popey> which must have been from testing at some point 13:40 <mihir> grrr 13:40 <popey> reminds me, need to update the screenshots 13:40 <mihir> Thank you :D 13:41 <popey> omg, this is way better 13:41 <mihir> tbh, store has very crappy screenshots 13:41 <popey> yes, it does. 13:41 <mihir> \m/ , look at details too that issues should have gone i beleive 13:41 <mihir> believe* 13:41 <popey> balloons: do you have access to that? 13:41 <nik90> regardless the issue in the week view persists 13:41 <popey> OMG! this is amazing 13:41 <mihir> yes nik90 it does. 13:41 <davmor2> popey: that oggcamp looks a bit important if it takes all day ;) 13:42 <popey> i have two phones, I happened to pick up the one with a crappy build on it, sorry. 13:42 <nik90> popey, kunal: How does iOS handle events in the week view? 13:42 <nik90> I know google calendar hides the events details and show blank rectangles if it is too crowded 13:42 <nik90> curious if there are other ways to solve it 13:43 <popey> ios doesnt have a week view 13:43 <popey> year, month, day. 13:43 <mihir> ohhh 13:43 <nik90> wow that's surprising 13:43 <kunal> but BB10, shows something similar 13:44 <mihir> kunal, just bubbles right? 13:44 <balloons> popey, I can update screenshots 13:44 <popey> balloons: good. thanks. 13:44 <mihir> thanks balloons :) 13:44 <nik90> kunal: got a screenshot? 13:45 <popey> day http://imgur.com/WuV9i5m 13:45 <popey> month http://imgur.com/7W9u3z8 13:45 <popey> yeah http://imgur.com/nriJLv1 13:45 <popey> the ios day view is actually our week view, but only showing one days events at a time 13:45 <davmor2> http://berryflow.com/2014/07/visual-comparison-bb10-ios8-android-l/ number 4. 13:46 <popey> ta 13:46 <nik90> davmor2: that's month view though 13:46 <kunal> I can get screenshots 13:46 <kunal> let me cehck 13:46 <popey> http://imgur.com/WuV9i5m on ios is a hybrid of our week and day views 13:48 <kunal> BTW, I like their time picker 13:48 <kunal> http://developer.blackberry.com/design/bb10/10_3_visual_updates.html 13:48 <davmor2> nik90: http://helpblog.blackberry.com/2013/10/five-tip-friday-blackberry-10-calendar/ 13:50 <mihir> hmm also kunal what would you suggest for time in Weekview 13:50 <mihir> it hides now for only Sun, if event on that time. 13:50 <mihir> that change is too required and more IMP 13:51 <popey> i think deep down kunal just wants to build the bb calendar app ☻ 13:51 <mihir> hehehe 13:51 <kunal> right :) 13:51 <kunal> I use it lot 13:52 <nik90> :D 13:53 <popey> ok, so I think we need to come up with a solution to the day/week view issue. 13:53 <mihir> popey, isn't that just Weekview ? 13:53 <popey> yes, but look at the ios one 13:54 <popey> they don't have a "week view" as such 13:54 <popey> well, they do, you can see the week along the top, but only one days events 13:54 <mihir> popey, yeah , if we think in other way 13:54 <popey> my point was do we smoosh the two views together, or have some other solution 13:54 <popey> or just drop the week view? 13:54 <mihir> popey, yes i saw that. 13:54 <mihir> got it :) 13:54 <popey> dropping a view should not be considered a bad thing. 13:55 <mihir> hmm 13:55 <kunal> I got this 13:55 <kunal> http://forums.crackberry.com/bb10-leaked-beta-os-f395/10-3-0-700-screenshot-thread-941062/ 13:56 <popey> thats the same as ios 13:56 <popey> show one day with the day numbers along the top 13:56 <popey> http://forums.crackberry.com/attachments/bb10-leaked-beta-os-f395/279958d1403569960t-10-3-0-700-screenshot-thread-img_20140624_022746.png 13:57 <mihir> popey, what actually happens on iOS when you move to next day 13:57 <popey> the day slides across 13:57 <mihir> it increment a day in header or it change week after it ends 13:57 <popey> like on our day view when you slide 13:57 <popey> and you can jump from one day to another with the numbers at the top 13:58 <mihir> okay 13:58 <popey> so the quick-and-easy solution for us, is 1) drop week view, 2) add day numbers to day view. 13:58 <popey> (just an option) 13:58 <mihir> Hmmm 14:02 <popey> Have a think. 14:02 <kunal> BTW 14:02 <kunal> http://imgur.com/vTuhuna,8DUyYQC#1 14:02 <kunal> this is how week view looks on bb10 14:02 <popey> thats interesting 14:03 <popey> so just blocks with no titles 14:03 <popey> certainly an option 14:03 <kunal> http://imgur.com/vTuhuna,8DUyYQC#0 14:03 <mihir> yup , google does the same 14:03 <popey> good for an overview of the week 14:03 <mihir> popey, i gave that as first solution heheh 14:03 <popey> you did ☻ 14:03 <popey> I'm happy to try either/both 14:03 <mihir> <mihir> popey, can we just remove all the stuffs inside bubble and just show bubble ? 14:03 <mihir> \m/ 14:03 <popey> look at all the time we'd save if we just listened to mihir ! :D 14:04 <mihir> hehehe :D 14:04 <popey> seriously though, it's a good idea, clearly. 14:04 <popey> ok. anything else to discuss? 14:04 <mihir> popey, lets do that , rather than dropping whole weekview 14:04 <popey> ya 14:04 <popey> +1 14:04 <mihir> nope nothing from my side :) 14:04 <popey> note bb has no times in the block either 14:05 <mihir> yes, we are blocking time for first day of week as of now due to sapce issues i guess 14:05 <nik90> yeah I like the bb 10 weekview 14:05 <nik90> much cleaner 14:06 <mihir> nik90, it is same as google calendar I guess 14:06 <nik90> almost 14:06 <popey> also, one tiny thing 14:07 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-10-02-150701.png 14:07 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-10-02-150709.png 14:07 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-10-02-150716.png 14:07 <popey> thats me scrolling up 14:07 <popey> note the 2 all day events obscure the text briefly when it's at the top 14:07 <popey> only a minor thing 14:08 <mihir> :) 14:09 <kunal> I tink that's flaoting above the timeline? 14:09 <popey> yes 14:09 <nik90> I don't think it should float 14:09 <nik90> it should be above the timeline 14:09 <kunal> ok 14:10 <nik90> like before 14:10 <nik90> agree? 14:10 <kunal> I had another screenshot :) http://imgur.com/kswykz7 14:10 <kunal> for all day events 14:10 <popey> oh nice! 14:11 <nik90> cool 14:12 <nik90> with a nice slide in animation 14:12 <kunal> right :) 14:12 <nik90> btw we need vertical dividers in the week view 14:12 <nik90> there's already a bug about it 14:13 <mihir> yes we have bug for that 14:14 <popey> Ok. Anything else? 14:14 <mihir> nope , that was long meeting though :D 14:14 <kunal> no, nothing from me 14:15 <popey> Thanks chaps! Really great work as always! 14:16 <popey> #endmeeting