13:14 <popey> #startmeeting Trojita
13:14 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 15 13:14:38 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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13:14 <DanChapman> popey, only just seen your emal :-/ I'll have to try and find a quiet spot in the house for a hangout after this meeting :-D gotta love toddlers
13:14 <popey> well, we can discuss here too ☻
13:15 <popey> So last week jkt brought up the concern that development on trojita has slowed.
13:15 <popey> Would you say that's a fair comment?
13:15 <DanChapman> popey yep I would agree
13:15 <popey> hi jkt
13:15 <jkt> hi there
13:16 <popey> So clearly you guys working on dekko means you can iterate very quickly, and not have to 'worry' about integrating with upstream, right?
13:18 <popey> but with the side effect that things aren't flowing upstream?
13:18 <DanChapman> sorry was relocating.
13:18 <DanChapman> hey jkt
13:20 <DanChapman> yes so dekko has been iterating quickly but as I said from the start it's more of a learning/testing/ideas place. And not submit patches to upstream that would be a waste of time. Maybe my lack of c++ skills has caused me to be hesitant of what I push upstream so I should address that really
13:20 <popey> Ok, so we're on the same page that these things need to go upstream, right?
13:21 <popey> There's a hesitancy on your part because you don't want to push something that breaks other things, or that is otherwise 'wrong' ?
13:21 <DanChapman> both :-D
13:23 <popey> Ok.
13:24 <popey> So do you have some possibly-broken branches that we can ask for help with?
13:24 <popey> jkt: would you, or someone else on the project be able to mentor DanChapman through these choppy waters?
13:24 <jkt> starting on September 8th, yep
13:25 <jkt> before that, nope
13:25 <popey> Ok.
13:25 <DanChapman> jkt, that's not so far away :-D That would be great/appreciated if you could
13:25 <popey> Ok, so that gives DanChapman some time to prepare patches, and clearly articulate where gaps in his knowledge are.
13:26 <popey> DanChapman: shall we work together up until then to prepare and document where you need assistance?
13:26 <DanChapman> popey, sure :-)
13:26 <popey> Brilliant.
13:27 <popey> Sept 8th is after our release to manufacturer date so we should have more availability too
13:27 <popey> (lol - don't believe that)
13:27 <DanChapman> popey what's the "official date" for RTM 2nd?
13:28 <popey> 28th
13:29 <popey> So DanChapman boren_ will you have some time next week for us to build up a document listing what needs to go upstream and what gaps we have?
13:31 <DanChapman> wow even closer. Yep next week sounds good all though not Monday & Tuesday mornings but any other time should be fine
13:31 <popey> Wednesday is good for me. boren_ you around on wednesday?
13:32 <boren_> popey, Yes
13:32 <popey> It's a date!
13:32 <DanChapman> I''l bring the beer
13:32 <popey> \o/
13:33 <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
13:33 <DanChapman> heh :-D
13:33 <popey> jkt: are there any specific concerns, or things that need attention from your perspective?
13:34 <jkt> well, I respect your decision to play in a playground, so I'm not poking my nose in that playground, so there's nothing to report from my side
13:34 <jkt> if you wanted my perspective, you would have sent patches my way
13:34 <popey> Well, that's what we're aiming to fix.
13:35 <boren_> popey, What's wrong with submitting patches from now? or we need to prioritize them in meeting.
13:35 <popey> boren_: no reason at all, please do!
13:36 <popey> I understood they were held back due to lack of confidence from DanChapman
13:36 <popey> but if you have some ready to go then please do.
13:36 <jkt> I'll be offline between 23rd of August and September 7th, another vacation time
13:37 <popey> Nice!
13:38 <popey> So with that in mind it would be great to submit this/next week.
13:39 <popey> boren_: DanChapman do you have any ready to go already?
13:40 <DanChapman> I have a couple I can tidy up and get them moving. I'll push to get them up for review over the weekend
13:40 <boren_> Not really, I have only a few changes in dekko that I plans to implement in trojita later.
13:43 <popey> Thanks DanChapman
13:44 <popey> Are there any other things you guys need to discuss today?
13:45 <DanChapman> popey, no not at the moment, i think once we have a list together on wednesday we should know better where we stand :-)
13:45 <jkt> none from me, either
13:45 <boren_> no from me
13:45 <popey> Ok guys. Thank you!
13:46 <popey> Have a great weekend.
13:46 <popey> #endmeeting