12:01 <popey> #Startmeeting shorts meeting
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12:02 <JoeyChan> Roman found a serious problem
12:02 <JoeyChan> https://developers.google.com/feed/terms
12:02 <JoeyChan> Deprecation Policy
12:02 <popey> let me see
12:03 <popey> I dont understand the issue?
12:03 <popey> they're not deprecating it?
12:04 <JoeyChan> Google gonna shut the feed api,  or not ?
12:05 <popey> thats not how i read it
12:05 <popey> how i read it is "we will announce if we shut it down"
12:05 <popey> not "we are going to shut it down"
12:06 <JoeyChan> OK ..  seems both Roman & I hava a bad English reading ability   :P
12:07 <popey> hehe
12:07 <JoeyChan> we almost spent a week to search a replacement of google api
12:07 <popey> well, it's not _that_ clear!
12:09 <JoeyChan> OK  :P   we can continue working on Shorts
12:09 <JoeyChan> wasted lots of time
12:09 <popey> let me get another en_GB person to read it, to confirm
12:09 <popey> maybe I'm being dumb
12:10 <JoeyChan> I think a lawyer, is better to read it
12:10 <popey> ☻
12:10 <JoeyChan> :P
12:12 <popey> I uploaded a newer shorts to the store recently.
12:12 <JoeyChan> I installed r119
12:13 <popey> Ok, had someone else check out that google announcement, they're not shutting down.
12:13 <JoeyChan> now shorts flicks more smooth than before  :)
12:13 <JoeyChan> sounds cool
12:14 <popey> well, at least not until next year
12:14 <JoeyChan> lol
12:15 <popey> ☻
12:15 <JoeyChan> Ok  moving to next question
12:16 <JoeyChan> I think c++ code is inevitable
12:16 <JoeyChan> sooner or later
12:16 <popey> ok.
12:16 <popey> So timescales...
12:16 <JoeyChan> I tried QWidget in my nexus recently
12:17 <popey> Do you think it will make a significant difference to performance?
12:17 <JoeyChan> it will block all touch events
12:17 <popey> Which parts would you move to C++?
12:17 <JoeyChan> I just tried C++ in my own app
12:17 <JoeyChan> not Shorts
12:18 <JoeyChan> the QtWidget module has a good class called "QSplashScreen"
12:18 <JoeyChan> it shows a loading screen when loading the whole app
12:19 <popey> ah okay
12:19 <JoeyChan> someone in G+ said maybe Mir not support QtWidget very well
12:21 <popey> Oh, I'd not seen that, do you have a link?
12:21 <JoeyChan> QtWidget still have some good features that qml doesn't have
12:21 <JoeyChan> I posted to the group "ubuntu app developer"
12:23 <popey> ok, i'll take a look
12:23 <JoeyChan> in "discussion" section
12:24 <JoeyChan> I suspect QSplashScreen might not work well with Mir, as they are positioned shaped windows, while Mir is all about full screen apps on the phone.
12:24 <JoeyChan> from Rodney
12:24 <JoeyChan> Rodney Dawes
12:25 <popey> ah, interesting
12:26 <popey> In terms of timelines, end of august is the date we're handing images over to the handset manufacturer
12:26 <popey> between now and then we can of course fix bugs
12:26 <popey> (not that shorts has many)
12:26 <popey> and we may get more bugs filed after tat date
12:26 <popey> *that date
12:26 <popey> as the manufacturer tests the apps.
12:27 <JoeyChan> i c
12:28 <popey> Any thing else to discuss?
12:28 <JoeyChan> so the opml support not gonna landed for RTM version ?
12:29 <popey> I think we should aim for after RTM
12:29 <popey> But if you think we can get it in before, we have over a month ☻
12:30 <JoeyChan> to get it done is easy,  but I can't guarantee stable  :P
12:30 <popey> so we can test separately and then land it once fully tested and stable
12:31 <JoeyChan> sure
12:31 <JoeyChan> no more questions         so far so good   :)
12:32 <popey> Super!
12:32 <popey> Thanks JoeyChan, let me know if you need any opml testing ☻
12:32 <JoeyChan> popey:   will !
12:32 <JoeyChan> enjoy the weekend and the aircraft show  :P
12:32 <popey> hehe, will do!
12:32 <popey> have a great weekend
12:33 <popey> #endmeeting