13:02 <popey> #startmeeting Trojita meeting 13:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jul 4 13:02:17 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 13:02 <meetingology> 13:02 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 13:02 <popey> hi DanChapman boren, lovely to see you both again! 13:02 <DanChapman> popey, i can't watch it. Google banned me from youtube after uploading a video on automating ubiquity with autopilot. Go figure that one :-) 13:02 <popey> haha, seriously!? 13:02 <DanChapman> yeah and i'm the one who wrote the darn tests 13:03 <popey> awww 13:03 <DanChapman> and it was my first video i think hah 13:04 <DanChapman> anyway, onwards and upwards 13:04 <popey> Indeed. 13:04 <popey> So, first thing, thanks for uploading dekko to the store! 13:04 <popey> We should get more users that way, testing it out 13:04 <popey> I see davmor2 has already been breaking it for you. 13:05 <popey> And to be clear, for the record m'lud, this dekko app is primarily there for testing features before they land in Trojita upstream, right? 13:05 <DanChapman> popey that was my thoughts exactly. An it's useful to try out ideas on people. It's been difficult not having anyone actually testing trojita 13:05 <popey> And once trojita lands, we can remove dekko and replace it with trojita proper? 13:05 <DanChapman> that was my intention 13:05 <popey> Excellent, glad we're on the same page ☻ 13:06 <popey> Shall we look at the trello? 13:06 <popey> https://trello.com/b/73rFyG6n/ubuntu-email-client 13:06 <popey> I see a card in to-do about valgrind, whats that? 13:06 <popey> oh, i see comments in the card 13:07 <DanChapman> oops i forgot about that, is that still the case for the armhf ppa builds? 13:07 <popey> Well, the good news is I asked for valgrind to be seeded in the phone image, which hopefully will make it easier? 13:07 <popey> I don't know. Hence asking ☻ 13:07 * DanChapman goes to look 13:09 <DanChapman> popey https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers/+archive/daily/+packages?field.name_filter=trojita&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= seems they are building now 13:09 <popey> super, one card ditched, next! 13:10 <popey> How about the reply card? 13:11 <DanChapman> i'm still trying to get a unified desktop gui and qml smtp backend going it's turning into a pig of a job as it uses ALOT of non qml friendly stuff, and i keep breaking the desktop gui trying to make changes 13:12 <popey> ah 13:14 <davmor2> DanChapman, popey: I'll have a proper play with dekko over the weekend on n4 and n10. Is there somewhere you what me to file bugs? 13:14 <popey> launchpad.net/dekko 13:15 <davmor2> nice will do 13:15 <DanChapman> davmor2: thanks :-) 13:16 <DanChapman> popey: i'll keep hacking at it though. I'll get there at 'some' point :-D 13:17 <popey> Do we need more people on the job, or would more people not really help as its just a Hard Problem? 13:18 <popey> Is there something else you could work on which would be equally useful and a break from that? 13:18 <DanChapman> popey: more people would always be a good thing. :-) 13:20 <DanChapman> Well i was thinking of getting the porting to the new header completed and get the composer in place and then come back to doing the backend after that 13:20 <popey> Sounds reasonable. 13:20 <popey> Don't want you guys to all burn out 13:21 <DanChapman> :-D 13:21 <DanChapman> boren did you have any more luck with the webview? I've seen your review for the formatting i'll take a look at that after the meeting 13:22 <DanChapman> boren i basically gave up on the webview and was just dumping the message from the webview into a readonly textarea see http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~dpniel/dekko/trunk/view/head:/src/Ubuntu/qml/Pages/OneMessagePage.qml it actually works out quite nice 13:23 <boren> make sense 13:23 <boren> But wrapping in html deal with the commenting. 13:23 <boren> i mean reply 13:24 <boren> So there is a button to click that will expand history if we do it as html 13:25 <DanChapman> yeah thats the only snag, but i didn't no which was better just display a full unpretty plaintext message or go extreme lengths to find a hacky way to get a decent size webview, like my iframe hack. 13:26 <DanChapman> obviously html messages would need a webview, but that's some way off atm so I didn't really think about that 13:28 <boren> I will try something this weekend with html. We can always do plaintext if webview is too difficult. 13:28 <popey> thanks boren 13:29 <DanChapman> boren great thanks :-) 13:30 <popey> DanChapman: have you spoken to jkt about dekko? 13:31 <DanChapman> no not yet I was going to grab him when he get's back off holiday 13:31 * DanChapman is melting 13:31 <popey> when is he back? 13:32 <DanChapman> end of next week i believe 13:33 <popey> Ok. So I think it might be worth blogging about dekko 13:33 <popey> and pimping it about a bit 13:33 <popey> with all the caveats about it 13:34 <popey> couple of screenshots maybe 13:35 <DanChapman> Ok cool sounds good, I can do that. What's the best way of getting folks to see it, through planet.u.c? I think i i have a feed setup for that 13:37 <popey> yes, planet is the _best_ way 13:37 <popey> loads of people read that 13:39 <DanChapman> boren just as a note feel free to send patches or ideas you would like to try out on dekko, it's our playground :-D 13:39 <DanChapman> popey: ok great will do that then 13:40 <popey> Are you able to land patches upstream while jkt is away? 13:40 <boren> DanChapman, OK, that is exciting. 13:41 <popey> yeah, its great having what you guys have done available in the click store! 13:41 <DanChapman> If it's not 'too' much qml then yes I believe so as Thomas and Caspar aren't too familiar with it but c++/cmake they will 13:41 <popey> ah okay 13:42 <popey> do you have any ETA on when you might have a non-desktop-breaking reply patch to land? 13:45 <DanChapman> I can't put a time on it landing at the moment, but if I can figure out the sender identities model issue i'm having, then maybe have it up for review later next week. All going well that is 13:46 <popey> ok. 13:46 <popey> thanks. 13:46 <popey> Is there anything else I can help with? 13:47 <DanChapman> If you can help with an industrial sized cooling fan? then yes!! :-D otherwise i'm good for now 13:47 <popey> heh ☻ 13:50 <popey> Ok, lets wrap up and get an ice cream. 13:51 <popey> Thanks guys, have a great weekend. 13:51 <popey> #endmeeting