11:04 <popey> #startmeeting Music app meeting
11:04 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Jun 19 11:04:59 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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11:05 <popey> hey ahayzen
11:05 <popey> Firstly, I wanted to say thank you so much for the hard work you guys did yesterday
11:05 <ahayzen> o/
11:05 <popey> that was a full 10 hour stint!?
11:05 <vthompson> \o
11:05 <ahayzen> tht was epic :)
11:05 * ahayzen sees store update for music \o/
11:06 <vthompson> It was tiresome, but I'm very glad we got things working
11:06 <ahayzen> popey, should i propose this to merge? https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-seeds/music-app-remove-grilo
11:06 <popey> Looked like a really painful day.
11:06 <popey> ahayzen: lets get 1 or 2 images under our belt first
11:06 <popey> then remove it
11:07 <ahayzen> popey, but isn't it needed for the qt5.3 migration? or have they moved the seed in tht?
11:07 <popey> next one will have latest music
11:07 <vthompson> popey, a broken grilo on qt5.3 won't make ppl mad?
11:07 <popey> oh, good call.
11:07 <popey> yeah, go for it
11:07 <ahayzen> popey, shall i propose it ? yey
11:07 <popey> ya
11:07 <popey> ogra is out today, so it wont land till later or tomorrow anyway
11:07 <popey> so worth doing now, so it's ready
11:08 <ahayzen> popey, who can approve it? i forget the people...
11:08 <ahayzen> popey, or do i wait for ogra
11:08 <ahayzen> https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-seeds/music-app-remove-grilo/+merge/223718
11:08 <popey> I'd look for who else has contributed to the touch ubuntu-seeds and see who approved
11:08 <popey> chances are it's just ogra, which is fine
11:09 <ahayzen> i'm sure xnox or someone would like to do it as he was bugging me before
11:09 <popey> yeah, xnox is also able to. feel free to poke hi m:)
11:11 <vthompson> so beyond that we have a few MPs that we'll want to get updated with the latest and possibly merged
11:11 <ahayzen> hmm he is away i'll leave a message
11:11 <popey> thanks ahayzen
11:11 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah tonight i plan on merge conflict resolving all my other branches
11:12 <ahayzen> popey, vthompson do we want to plan out wht order to land the next branches....there are quite a few
11:12 <popey> there's a couple in the queue
11:12 <popey> http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/
11:12 <popey> and some in wip http://people.canonical.com/~dpm/core-apps-sponsoring/wip/
11:13 <vthompson> some that have design impact we'll want more input on
11:13 <ahayzen> basically we have... listitem-actions ... sheets-to-pages... now-playing-queue-split...search in toolbar...some fixes and some others
11:13 <vthompson> before merging
11:13 <popey> I had a chat with john lea in design this week
11:14 <popey> they're completely slammed for the next 2 weeks.
11:14 <ahayzen> vthompson, do all of ^^ need design input like the sheet to pages i think makes sense
11:14 <popey> then things ease off a bit, as thats their deadline for RTM
11:14 <ahayzen> vthompson, the list item actions is just a copy of their spec
11:14 <vthompson> well if they are busy I think most of these make sense
11:14 <popey> You could perhaps speak to Andrea Del Sarto?
11:15 <ahayzen> vthompson, the now playing split is probably the biggest change in the workflow but this comes from Andrea's designs/convergence ideas etc
11:15 <vthompson> for the listitems one do we know if the sdk guys are going to get the actions done by RTM?
11:15 <vthompson> ahayzen, yea, let's put the convergence one at the bottom then
11:15 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah they said in UOS
11:16 <ahayzen> vthompson, well convergence also fixes other things but yeah think it should come after...
11:16 <ahayzen> vthompson, it isn't really convergence just helps towards convergence as the queue is its own component
11:17 <ahayzen> vthompson, popey, i personally think it should go... sheets->pages... listitem actions... then search/split depending if the SDK support lands
11:17 <ahayzen> vthompson, as the listitem actions will need to be updated when the sheets to pages lands
11:17 <vthompson> I'd mostly agree with that. isn't the search one ready because it just puts the icon in the header?
11:18 <ahayzen> vthompson, no we were waiting for the new header API to do search in the tabs then i was going to use that
11:18 <ahayzen> vthompson, ^^ then removes the final sheet we have not converted in the sheets-to-pages
11:18 <vthompson> ok, mark it as WIP then
11:18 <ahayzen> vthompson, i did IIRC?
11:18 <popey> listitem actions before search/split?
11:19 <popey> oh, depending on sdk, yes
11:19 <vthompson> oh right it is on hold
11:19 <ahayzen> listitem actions yes before search button in toolbar or the now playing split
11:19 <ahayzen> but after the sheets to pages transition
11:19 <ahayzen> *in header
11:19 <vthompson> we could land the search button in the header without the sdk support for the header search though
11:20 <vthompson> we'd just use a page for search
11:20 <ahayzen> vthompson, yeah i suppose we can land what we have for now.....but i want to have the search just filter the songs page
11:20 <ahayzen> vthompson, rather than creating a separate page for it when it is just gonna be removed soon
11:20 <vthompson> true
11:21 <ahayzen> vthompson, tim said that was the next thing on his list i think
11:21 <vthompson> So I think that order makes the most sense, let's get sheets->pages and bug fixes landed
11:21 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep i'll resolve the merge conflicts tonight of those first :)
11:22 <vthompson> I think we'll also be fielding bug fixes that we may have missed from the ms2 migration
11:22 <vthompson> Or at least we should be ready to :)
11:22 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep i was gonna say do we want to move 'land mediascanner2' trello card into done... and then create a todo/WIP one tht has the unresolved items?
11:23 <vthompson> not sure, I've mostly stayed out of trello
11:23 <ahayzen> vthompson, i use trello all the time now...
11:23 <ahayzen> vthompson, i'll do ^^ just for my own tracking
11:23 <popey> thanks ahayzen
11:23 <ahayzen> vthompson, i used to have a massive TODO text file but i use trello now as my 'notes' page
11:24 <popey> same here
11:24 <popey> my text file became ridiculously unmanageable
11:24 <vthompson> :) then tidy up trello as you see fit
11:24 <popey> ☻
11:26 <popey> next image just started building, should have latest music on board
11:26 <popey> so we'll see what the ci dashboard looks like after that
11:26 <ahayzen> \o/
11:26 <popey> that'll be the first image with ms2 merge
11:26 <vthompson> awesome
11:26 <popey> and we can be confident about yanking qtgrillo
11:26 <ahayzen> vthompson, did option 1, 2 land in the AP tests after i went to bed @ 2am lol
11:27 <ahayzen> vthompson, as in replacing ~/music or isolation?
11:27 <vthompson> oh we're still replacing
11:27 <ahayzen> cool
11:27 * ahayzen adds item to resolve tht
11:27 <vthompson> yea, good idea
11:28 <ahayzen> vthompson, so these are the remaining issues? https://trello.com/c/UmWFAat3/263-music-resolve-remaining-mediascanner2-issues
11:29 <popey> looks reasonable.
11:29 <vthompson> ahayzen, looks complete.
11:29 <ahayzen> cool
11:30 <vthompson> I hope our masking of the dbus issues doesn't slow down James' team from fixing it
11:30 <ahayzen> vthompson, i was thinking last night of just branching our app and creating a version without the limits...so that people can easily test?
11:30 <ahayzen> vthompson, then people can build clicks etc
11:31 <vthompson> You could, but those are easy to modify as well
11:31 <popey> can you modify on device?
11:31 <vthompson> the sample application you gave them should still crash though
11:31 <ahayzen> vthompson, oh yeah the sample app
11:31 <vthompson> I meant more that the fact that it's been worked around should deter their team from fixing it
11:32 <vthompson> *shouldn't
11:32 <ahayzen> popey, you could it is just limit: 500 in lots of places if u search for that u'll find them
11:32 <popey> gotcha
11:32 <ahayzen> vthompson, ah yes
11:32 <ahayzen> vthompson, i still should be a 'critical' issue
11:33 <ahayzen> god i can't type today...
11:33 <vthompson> did too much of that yesterday...
11:34 <popey> Yeah, after yesterday I'm susprised you both turned up for this meeting!
11:34 <ahayzen> popey, i see landing are happening, would you be able to watch/poke people about that mp to remove grilo while i'm at work so it gets into #90 ? or are we just gonna wait
11:35 <popey> sure thing. I'll poke
11:35 <vthompson> ha, we can't miss a mtg with the first good news in months!
11:35 <popey> haha!
11:35 <ahayzen> popey, i had 5hrs sleep then been doing manual testing all morning :/
11:35 <ahayzen> yeah exactly!
11:35 <popey> looks like 90 or 91 will be qt53
11:35 <popey> 89 is building now, so we have some hours
11:35 <ahayzen> \o/
11:35 <vthompson> excellent
11:36 <popey> ahayzen: did you say you'd spoken to tim about new listitems? know when that lands?
11:36 <ahayzen> popey, i don't see any reason for https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/ubuntu-seeds/music-app-remove-grilo/+merge/223718 not to work/be approved should make Mirv happy
11:36 <ahayzen> popey, err in one of the SDK sessions they said about ETAs i asked about it...
11:37 <ahayzen> popey, think it was on the 14.10 list but not RTM IIRC...but i would have to check....
11:37 <ahayzen> popey, oh no i remember....
11:37 <ahayzen> popey, it is within their working to completely redo listitems
11:37 <ahayzen> *work
11:38 <ahayzen> popey, but i don't think things like reordering will land straight away so we'll still need to patch
11:38 <popey> right
11:38 <popey> i was more thinking of the swipe actions
11:38 <ahayzen> popey, basically our decision from whichever meeting it was ...was just to land our custom component until theirs lands as we don't know when theirs will land
11:39 <vthompson> that's how I remember it as well. the actions fix a few things in the queue as well
11:39 <ahayzen> yeah actions fixes loads of other bugs...due to the listitem remaining the same height etc
11:40 <ahayzen> popey, vthompson, so anything else other than ... land all the things!
11:40 <popey> Nope, I'm good.
11:40 <popey> been listening to lots of music this morning
11:40 <vthompson> Nope, that about covers it!
11:40 <ahayzen> \o/
11:40 <ahayzen> popey, hopefully most of it has cover art now? at least the same as the scopes
11:41 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-06-19-124022.png <- see
11:41 <ahayzen> :)
11:41 <popey> yes, way more cover art than before
11:41 <ahayzen> good
11:41 <popey> http://popey.mooo.com/screenshots/device-2014-06-19-124104.png
11:41 <vthompson> sometimes thumbnailing gets laggy though
11:41 <popey> most of those were blank before
11:42 <ahayzen> awesome! ... yeah we need to add an animation or something tht would be nice
11:42 <ahayzen> anyway lunch time! speak later guys o/
11:42 <popey> ok. Shall we wrap up ?
11:42 <popey> \o/ lunch
11:42 <popey> thanks again guys for the hard work!
11:42 <ahayzen> then work :( bye...
11:42 <vthompson> Yep, I think we're good
11:42 <vthompson> haha, but lunch!
11:42 <popey> mmmmm lunch
11:42 <ahayzen> nom
11:42 <popey> http://drool.popey.com/
11:42 <popey> ttfn
11:42 <popey> #endmeeting