12:00 <popey> #startmeeting Shorts meeting
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12:00 <popey> JoeyChan: how are you?
12:01 <JoeyChan> Did u see the screenshots of Shorts that I posted to G+ ?
12:01 <popey> ooh, no
12:01 <popey> lemme go see
12:01 <popey> or do you have a handy link?
12:02 <JoeyChan> Good !  :D
12:02 <JoeyChan> I've test the new header with Shorts
12:02 <JoeyChan> I've posted to G+
12:02 <JoeyChan> wait one
12:03 <popey> Got it
12:03 <popey> How do you go back from within the article view?
12:03 <popey> haha, pokemon
12:10 <JoeyChan> back ..
12:10 <JoeyChan> sth wrong with my wifi router
12:11 <popey> ☻
12:11 <popey> 13:03:36 < popey> How do you go back from within the article view?
12:11 <JoeyChan> no.. I can't
12:11 <JoeyChan> only way is restart
12:11 <popey> ouch
12:11 <JoeyChan> And...  the header only support "Action" element, but we do have many custom buttons in toolbar
12:12 <popey> did you file a bug for that, or speak to t1mp?
12:12 <JoeyChan> Does Shorts "have to" change to new header ?
12:12 <popey> yeah, everything will.
12:13 <JoeyChan> I c
12:13 <JoeyChan> Will talk to Tim after I fully test with new header
12:13 <popey> Great.
12:14 <JoeyChan> I didn't test some pages
12:15 <popey> Such as?
12:15 <JoeyChan> So.. will the bottom toolbar deprecate later ?
12:15 <popey> The bottom toolbar disappears
12:15 <JoeyChan> search page..
12:16 <popey> ok.
12:16 <JoeyChan> management page
12:16 <popey> Can you focus on that this week? We need to migrate all apps over to the new toolbar.
12:16 <popey> and you're finding some of these edge cases we may not have catered for ☻
12:16 <popey> So it's great feedback for tim!
12:17 <JoeyChan> Roger  :)
12:18 <JoeyChan> So .. all third-party apps should switch to new header ?
12:19 <popey> Yes. All apps.
12:19 <popey> In theory the transition should be smooth, as toolbar will automatically move to the top.
12:19 <popey> but you may find some issues, do report them to us when you do.
12:20 <JoeyChan> ok
12:20 <JoeyChan> And what will the bottom become ?
12:20 <JoeyChan> bottom edge
12:21 <popey> design.canonical.com/2014/03/loving-the-bottom-edge/
12:21 <JoeyChan> Oh  I remenber that
12:21 <popey> So for Shorts, I can think of two examples.
12:21 <popey> 1. for "flick" up from the bottom, that could 'move to next unread article'
12:22 <popey> (when you're viewing articles)
12:22 <popey> and when you're on the main grid or list view, it could mean "refresh"
12:22 <popey> I'm not sure how we could use the bottom edge for pulling up slowly, that needs more thought.
12:23 <JoeyChan> the bottom edge is still being designed ?
12:24 <popey> Well, each app developer can do whatever they want with the bottom edge.
12:24 <popey> It's "yours"
12:25 <popey> So each app could do something different.
12:25 <popey> calendar could use the flick up to create a quick event
12:25 <popey> weather could use flick up to show tomorrow's weather
12:25 <popey> music could use it to switch tracks
12:25 <popey> etc
12:26 <JoeyChan> any new APIs to use the bottom edge ?
12:27 <popey> Hm, not exactly. But tim is the best person to ask about that.
12:28 <JoeyChan> OK  :)
12:29 <popey> Next week I'll be in Malta with the guys. We will review each app, so you might get some bug reports / design suggestions.
12:29 <JoeyChan> lol   awesome
12:29 <popey> Ok, anything else to discuss?
12:30 <JoeyChan> ah..  No , that's all  :)
12:30 <JoeyChan> I am preparing a speech for tomorrow's release party  ")
12:30 <JoeyChan> :)
12:31 <JoeyChan> there r already 3 release parties been held in China
12:31 <popey> Gosh!
12:31 <JoeyChan> haha  :P
12:32 <popey> Hope it goes well!
12:32 <JoeyChan> thx
12:32 <JoeyChan> c u next week
12:32 <JoeyChan> have a nice weekend
12:32 <popey> See you! Have a great weekend.
12:32 <JoeyChan> :)
12:32 <popey> Don't forget to give tim your header feedback ☻
12:33 <JoeyChan> will
12:33 <popey> #endmeeting