12:02 <dpm> #startmeeting
12:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Mar 27 12:02:22 2014 UTC.  The chair is dpm. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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12:02 <popey> o/
12:02 <ahayzen> popey, \o
12:02 <dpm> let me pull the blueprint
12:02 <dpm> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/appdev-1403-scopes-documentation
12:03 <popey> here you go..
12:03 <popey> Music App links:-
12:03 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs
12:03 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews
12:03 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-music-dev
12:03 <popey> General Links:-
12:03 <dpm> \o/
12:03 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones
12:03 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/
12:03 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers
12:03 <popey> </spam>
12:04 <dpm> yeah, I think rather mine was spam, as I pasted the wrong BP...
12:04 <dpm> anyway, any updates from you guys on the work items from last week?
12:05 <ahayzen> don't think there is any change in the state of work items for me but I have been working on various things
12:05 <ahayzen> the Toolbar now uses the Panel component in preparation for the bottom edge
12:05 <vthompson> I think either dpm or popey needs to test my MR that drops QtPowerd
12:06 <ahayzen> vthompson, i was going to wait until the fix for the Qt events not being run with the screen off before testing?
12:06 <ahayzen> i had a discussion with t1mp and kalikiana regarding how we will do the bottom edge and there is a bug tracking a feature we'll need here https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1247865
12:07 <vthompson> ahayzen, we could. But removing us from the lifecycle should make music stop within a few seconds
12:07 <popey> vthompson: happy to, link me up!
12:07 <ahayzen> vthompson, hopefully we'll be moving to the new media-hub soon so then we definitely won't need powerd :)
12:07 <dpm> popey, ok, will add a WI for you with the link to the MP
12:07 <vthompson> popey: https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/remove-qtpowerd/+merge/210944
12:08 <popey> will test once I finish todays dogfooding
12:08 <vthompson> excellent
12:09 <dpm> vthompson, how are you getting on with the mediascanner2 migration? Are you blocked by the cover art feature in the bindings? I could not quite figure if it had landed
12:09 <dpm> I don't think it has, but I'm wondering if some other work can happen in parallel or if it's a blocker
12:09 <vthompson> ahayzen, danielholm, you guys worked the URI handler more than I did. Does it seem possible to add a URI scheme handler for playing/search for an album (album://) or artist (artist://)?
12:10 <ahayzen> vthompson, i think it should just let me check the code again...
12:10 <vthompson> dpm, I don't think I'm blocked at the moment. I need to check again to see if they have the Qt bindings landed. I'll start working that again this weekend
12:11 <ahayzen> vthompson, yep at the moment we are only accepting file:// so we can add in use cases for album:// artist:// :)
12:11 <vthompson> ahayzen, I assumed the same--that's what I told James H from the Mediascanner2.0 team
12:12 <dpm> vthompson, ok, I'll move the WI to next week, then, does that sound ok?
12:13 <vthompson> dpm, that does--but I assume it'll take awhile to get implemented and fully tested. But we can keep pushing the WI back as we go
12:13 <dpm> ack
12:14 <dpm> popey, any word from Andrea on convergent designs? Do we have a spec that we can hand over to the guys?
12:14 <vthompson> Also, I know ricmm from the media-hub team has recently started putting tracklist/playlist support into the media-hub. So we can start working that or see if ricmm will assist to help him test
12:14 <popey> he was working on them this week I believe.
12:14 * popey pings him a mail
12:15 <dpm> popey, can you CC me on that one and I'll chip in? We need to get the designs asap, otherwise there won't be time to implement them
12:15 <popey> ya
12:16 <dpm> cool, thanks
12:16 <popey> done
12:16 <vthompson> dpm, popey, So I know  Andrea had a Google doc with his original design. Maybe you could have him update that and the team can comment?
12:17 <ahayzen> +1
12:17 <dpm> yes, we'll make sure the doc is up to date
12:17 <dpm> good point
12:17 <popey> +1
12:18 <vthompson> In terms of the other MRs, this one is blocked by the Qt5.2 event swallowing bug: https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/proceeds-to-next/+merge/211851
12:19 <vthompson> ahayzen, has a MR that is very close to landing for reorder: https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/reorder-support-001/+merge/202172
12:19 <ahayzen> very close \o/
12:19 <vthompson> And this MR is free to review: https://code.launchpad.net/~vthompson/music-app/fix-console-errors/+merge/212832
12:20 <dpm> I'll take that one
12:20 <dpm> ok, the other point that I had today, and as part of the core app days, we've been running an initiative to have different tasks of categories to focus on. You already know the tag we use for 'bitesize' bugs to make it easy for new contributors to pick bugs and start coding...
12:21 <dpm> Enter bacon-dogfooding
12:21 <vthompson> IT'S BACON!!!!
12:21 <popey> sounds delicious
12:21 <vthompson> (sorry)
12:21 <ahayzen> hah lol
12:21 <dpm> We've had Jono Bacon dogfood some of the core apps and give us feedback :)
12:21 <dpm> and we've collected those as bugs
12:22 <dpm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?field.tag=bacon-dogfood
12:22 <vthompson> ooo we have 8
12:22 <dpm> these the ones for Music, there are more for other apps (mostly calendar)
12:22 <vthompson> I'll try to finish up this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1297160
12:22 <dpm> awesome
12:22 <dpm> rather than big features, they're polish and usability bugs
12:23 <vthompson> What about this one: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1297169
12:23 <dpm> that are relatively small but have a big impact
12:23 <dpm> let me have a look...
12:23 <vthompson> I like the idea of hiding the recent when there is no items... what about also listing the Albums on the Music start tab and allow the user to scroll vertically on that tab?
12:24 * popey hugs click-buddy
12:24 <ahayzen> that sounds like a good idea
12:24 <ahayzen> popey, is click-buddy working with the music-app again?
12:24 <popey> dunno, it built a click package
12:24 <dpm> vthompson, sounds good to me, go for it
12:24 <popey> so.. lets see
12:24 <ahayzen> hah
12:25 <vthompson> Along those same lines, do we want to try to turn the horizontal list views on the Music tab into a more "carousel" style?
12:25 <vthompson> It would save some space and might be nice visually
12:25 <ahayzen> vthompson, that would be very cool :)
12:26 <popey> ooh!
12:26 <popey> would match the scopes
12:27 <popey> how would that work on desktop though?
12:27 <dpm> vthompson, I think it would make sense, but I'd perhaps start the discussion now and defer the implementation after the release, what do you think?
12:27 <vthompson> more or less, I'm envisioning that we don't hide the titles when they aren't focused
12:27 <vthompson> dpm, either way would work. Implementation wise I think it'd be a simple pathview
12:28 <popey> hmm, tried your branch vthompson
12:28 <vthompson> popey, It'd work the same way on the desktop and might even make more sense because the 'clumsiness' of scrolling horizontally on the desktop might be forgiven if it's a carousel effect
12:28 <popey> no, click-buddy didnt work
12:28 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7162423/
12:29 <popey> i guess I need to futz the plugin in somewhere?
12:29 <ahayzen> popey, yep and sergiusens' hack doesn't appear to work anymore
12:29 <vthompson> Yea, copy the old lib folder from the previous release over
12:29 <vthompson> BUT also remove the qtpowerd lib
12:29 <dpm> vthompson, ok, in that case, from what you're saying, I'd suggest to put it in the list of post-14.04 features. Even if it's an easy implementation, convergence, mediascanner2 and polish will be big tasks enough to keep you guys busy :)
12:29 <popey> ok
12:30 * popey does that now
12:30 <ahayzen> popey, we would run this before http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162425/
12:30 <vthompson> dpm, sounds good
12:30 <dpm> ok, great
12:30 <ahayzen> this is wht i've been doing recently to test but i don't mind trashing my click stuff http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7162428/
12:31 <popey> ok
12:31 <ahayzen> but as vthompson said remove ur qtpowerd lib :)
12:31 <popey> i have, and rebooted
12:31 <popey> time passes...
12:32 <dpm> ahayzen, ah, I've done something similar to test without confinement by just pushing the source tree to the device, but I see you're more hardcore by pushing directly into the /usr location :)
12:32 <popey> oh also.. any idea why i don't see artwork in the app?
12:32 <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-03-27-123227.png
12:32 <ahayzen> dpm, yeah lol just replacing whatever the current one is
12:32 <dpm> :)
12:32 <popey> vs http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-03-27-123248.png
12:33 <popey> ok, music playing...
12:33 <ahayzen> popey, think there is a difference between what data grilo is giving us to what the music scope gets
12:33 <vthompson> popey, I've been getting the same for the last few months
12:33 <ahayzen> popey, i'm hoping it'll be resolved when we move to mediascanner?
12:33 <dpm> popey, is it not because the scope uses mediascanner2 and we use grilo?
12:33 <ahayzen> ^^
12:33 <popey> ah
12:33 <popey> okay
12:33 <dpm> i.e. mediascanner1
12:33 <vthompson> I filed a bug against mediascanner : https://bugs.launchpad.net/mediascanner/+bug/1261059
12:34 * popey adds "That'll be fixed when mediascanner2 lands" to his "shit canonical people say" tumblr ㋛
12:34 <vthompson> I assume it should be fixed by mediascanner2.0
12:34 <popey> vthompson: with your branch music is still playing when blanked
12:34 <vthompson> popey, cool I got the same results
12:35 <popey> ship it!
12:35 <dpm> let's +1 it then?
12:36 <vthompson> dpm, popey should we try to fit some of the bacon-dogfooding bugs into 14.04 as there's time?
12:36 <vthompson> Or should we wait for designs/etc
12:36 <vthompson> Maybe Andrea should try to tackle how those bugs should be fixed?
12:36 <dpm> vthompson, yes, that's what I was going to say, I'd like to tackle these bugs as soon as possible, although we'll be blocking on some of them
12:37 <popey> +1
12:37 <dpm> We'll get in touch with Andrea today and we'll get the design doc in place
12:37 <vthompson> k, and we'll move forward from there
12:37 <dpm> in any case, if you guys have been working on a particular feature for long and want a bit of a change, it'd be good if you could pick your favourite bugs from https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?field.tag=bacon-dogfood and assign them to yourselves if you're interested
12:38 <dpm> if you see they require designs, feel free to add the needs-design tag too
12:38 <vthompson> k
12:38 <ahayzen> cool
12:39 <dpm> excellent
12:39 <dpm> ok, so BP updates and bacon was all that I had from my side of things :)
12:40 <dpm> anything else you guys wanted to discuss?
12:40 <vthompson> I don't have anything
12:40 <ahayzen> nothing from me
12:40 <dpm> ok, cool, so on that note, let's wrap it up and squash some bugs ;)
12:40 <popey> \o/
12:40 <ahayzen> happy hacking guys :)
12:40 <dpm> thanks a lot guys!
12:41 <vthompson> thanks everyone, happy hacking!
12:41 <popey> (don't forget to end the meeting dpm) :D
12:41 <dpm> \m/
12:41 <dpm> #endmeeting