20:02 <popey> #startmeeting Community Design Team meeting 20:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Mar 4 20:02:13 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 20:02 <meetingology> 20:02 <meetingology> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 20:02 <popey> Ok, so looking at what we agreed last week.. 20:03 <popey> I moved all the content from docs to the wiki 20:03 <popey> e.g. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Music/Design 20:03 <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Calendar/Design 20:03 <delsa> yes ... cool 20:04 <popey> the other pages will obviously need updating as we have content for them 20:04 <delsa> ;) 20:04 <delsa> I'm working with music developers :) 20:04 <michelr> ok ! 20:05 <popey> delsa: any updates for the wiki? 20:06 <delsa> I'm working on gdocs for the developers.. with the design on...tonight something for the wiki will be ready :) 20:07 <popey> Great! 20:07 <delsa> :) 20:07 <popey> michelr: how are things going with calendar? 20:07 <delsa> I'm really excited to work with the developers :) 20:07 <popey> They're a good bunch! 20:07 <michelr> I'm working on timeline view 20:08 <delsa> good :D 20:08 <michelr> I had some technicals pbs with Pencil, so I wasted time migrated stuff to LO Draw :-( 20:08 <popey> Have you seen Lucas' GUI toolkit? 20:08 <popey> Using inkscape, it makes it easy to create UI designs. 20:09 <delsa> +1 20:09 <popey> http://lucasromerodb.blogspot.com.ar/2014/03/gui-ubuntu-wireframing-kit-v09.html 20:09 <michelr> well, not for me : I need simple tools, Inkscape is too complex for me 20:09 <popey> heh 20:09 <popey> ok 20:09 <michelr> But i reuse some parts as I need 20:10 <michelr> I thought about some shorcuts between views (timeline --> day/week/month views) 20:10 <michelr> I mockup it asap ! 20:10 <popey> Thank you. 20:10 <popey> I have some good news for you guys! 20:10 <delsa> :) 20:11 <popey> http://summit.ubuntu.com/appdevweek-1403/meeting/22154/the-new-app-header-design-and-new-ux-exploration/ 20:11 <popey> I would bookmark that session for friday at 14:00 20:11 <delsa> I'm not here :( friday I'm @ work 20:11 <popey> If you aren't able to watch live as it happens, don't worry, it will be archived, and I'll send out an update to you all. 20:12 <delsa> ok..cool :) 20:12 <popey> I'll try and get some content to you early. 20:12 <delsa> :D 20:12 <delsa> can't wait 20:13 <popey> This will introduce some new concepts for the bottom edge. 20:13 <delsa> +1 20:13 <popey> It will allow you to be very creative with the bottom edge. 20:13 <michelr> yes ! 20:14 <delsa> can't really wait :D 20:14 <popey> Heh. 20:14 <popey> Me too! 20:14 <michelr> maybe it will allow powerful editors ? 20:14 <michelr> I mean with enhanced toolbars ? 20:15 <popey> I think it will allow for more dynamic ways of moving around in the app 20:15 <delsa> :) 20:15 <popey> So for example you were saying about the shortcuts between views in the calendar 20:15 <popey> I think this will make it easier to smoothly move from day -> week -> month etc 20:15 <popey> so users can focus in on the data they want quickly 20:15 <popey> and "zoom out" for a wider view easily too 20:15 <delsa> wow... that help a lot with music 20:16 <popey> Yeah, with music I can imagine going from "all my music" to "all jazz" to "one artist" to "one track" in a smooth natural movement 20:16 <delsa> you will know that this is fantastic?? :D 20:16 <popey> I hope so! 20:17 <popey> But, that's for friday and beyond. 20:17 <popey> Next week we may also learn more about the new header. 20:17 <popey> which will go along with the bottom edge changes 20:17 <delsa> ok 20:18 <delsa> sorry for the upcoming week... I go to paris with my girlfriend... so I'm really busy... 20:18 <popey> You are allowed to have a life outside Ubuntu ☻ 20:18 <delsa> yes :) 20:19 <popey> you never, know, Paris may give you some inspiration.. 20:19 <delsa> yes, I hope :) 20:20 <popey> Any questions / issues / problems from you guys? 20:20 <delsa> not by me :) 20:20 <michelr> I talked about consistency clock/weather on g+ and Nekelesh asked us to make a proposal 20:21 <michelr> about cities management 20:21 <popey> Ah excellent. 20:21 <michelr> Nekhelesh, sorry 20:21 <popey> Yes, I would like some consistency across all apps which need location data like cities. 20:22 <michelr> they currently have similar but subtle difference when user want to add a city 20:22 <popey> Yeah. 20:22 <michelr> Nekhelesh proposed that we choose one that will be implemented in the other app 20:23 <michelr> or a third one ;-) 20:23 <michelr> And it'll reduce code 20:23 <popey> I would also speak to martin (m-b-o on irc) who maintains the code in weather. 20:24 <michelr> With my new tool (!) I'll make a comparison to choose one 20:24 <popey> There will be some sticking points... for example the different backends used by each app 20:24 <michelr> Adn I thought : why not have a checbox that allows to add city on other app ? 20:25 <michelr> ex : you add a city in weather, and with a checkbox, it is also added in clock 20:27 <popey> The tricky part there is that apps can't access eachothers data 20:27 <popey> as they are confined 20:27 <popey> however, the city selection could be a re-usable sdk component 20:27 <popey> which each app can call upon 20:27 <popey> just like a button or other widget is reusable. 20:28 <michelr> Just like the time selector in clock (alarm) and calendar 20:29 <popey> Ya 20:29 <michelr> will this widget be implemented ? (https://plus.google.com/101489925843882654647/posts/KKRX9pQCinE) 20:30 <popey> which one specifically? 20:30 <popey> Oh, snapping? 20:30 <michelr> the widget that alows to define the alarm time 20:31 <delsa> I need to go.. inkscape call me... and tomorrow I must wake up really early for my work :( 20:31 <popey> That's custom to the clock app for now. 20:31 <popey> ok, thanks delsa 20:31 <michelr> bye delsa 20:31 <delsa> so, goodbye popey thanks to you, goodbye michelr 20:31 <popey> Ok. I didn't have anything else to bring up and my dinner is calling from the oven.. 20:31 <popey> Anything else? 20:32 <michelr> not really, I have to mockup my ideas and questions will follow 20:33 <popey> Ok, well. Let me know if you have any questions or problems! 20:33 <popey> Thanks michelr ! 20:33 <popey> #endmeeting