12:02 <popey> #startmeeting Music App meeting
12:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Feb 13 12:02:04 2014 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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12:02 <ahayzen> popey, o/
12:02 <popey> Music App links:-
12:02 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs
12:02 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews
12:02 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-music-dev
12:02 <popey> General Links:-
12:02 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones
12:02 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/
12:02 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers
12:02 <popey> how's it going?
12:03 <ahayzen> popey, think we've had a slow week really
12:03 <ahayzen> Daniel's search thing is nearly there just going through final reviews
12:03 <popey> Excellent.
12:04 <ahayzen> an autopilot fix i needed got reverted so i've gotta think how to work around tht :/
12:05 <ahayzen> and i've gotta figure out how to build an autopilot test to check if an animation is run in the UITK so i can get some patches landed, to then *finally* get rid of our custom swipe delete component
12:05 <ahayzen> looks like balloons just landed cmake support \o/
12:05 <popey> nice one.
12:06 <ahayzen> i've also been investigating that header issue
12:06 <popey> the one where the header disappears?
12:06 <ahayzen> but i feel it would be more beneficial if there was a way to lock the header in a shown/hidden state ...but i need to discuss this with someone
12:06 <ahayzen> popey, the one where it blocks the back button on the play queue
12:09 <ahayzen> ...i think tht is all tht has happened this week
12:09 <ahayzen> popey, how was the sprint?
12:09 <popey> great!
12:09 <popey> There's an interesting outcome from it.
12:09 <popey> Which i wanted to share with you.
12:09 <popey> We're bootstrapping a community design team.
12:09 <ahayzen> Awesome!
12:09 <popey> Who we're seeding with people who have been doing awesome work already
12:10 <popey> but we'll certainly invite others later.
12:10 <popey> We want to give them some specific requests to work on.
12:10 <ahayzen> tht is great news :)
12:10 <popey> Ya!
12:11 <popey> And the people we have asked have all said yes ☻
12:11 <popey> so that's a good start
12:11 <ahayzen> even better :)
12:11 <popey> we're prepping some docs for them to look at, things we need
12:11 <ahayzen> i guess we would want convergence designs?
12:11 <popey> will post them on the wiki and mail them, and will mail all of you once we have it started
12:11 <popey> yes
12:11 <popey> exactly
12:11 <ahayzen> cool
12:13 <popey> I've been fighting with a tablet all morning to get ubuntu on it to test out the music app experience on tablet
12:13 <ahayzen> popey, tht would be interesting, i've never seen it on the tablet
12:13 <popey> me either!
12:13 <popey> I only got handed it today, am in the london office trying to flash it ☻
12:13 <ahayzen> popey, i guess it would appear like the desktop?
12:13 <popey> similar, yeah
12:13 <popey> very much
12:14 <ahayzen> popey, how wide in GU are the tablets?
12:14 <popey> good question ☻
12:14 <popey> I don't know actually.
12:14 <popey> ask me again when I've beaten this thing into submission
12:14 <ahayzen> popey, will do ;)
12:15 <dpm> hey all, just got out of another meeting
12:15 <ahayzen> dpm, o/
12:15 <popey> So once I put the detail on the wiki, if there's anything - use cases etc - I have missed - feel free to add to it
12:15 <dpm> hey ahayzen :)
12:15 <popey> will probably be under Touch/Music/Design or thereabouts
12:15 <ahayzen> cool
12:16 <ahayzen> popey, was there anything else we needed to do regarding the mediascanner?
12:16 <dpm> I think you replied on the mailing list, right?
12:16 <popey> and on the bug
12:17 <dpm> ah, great
12:17 <ahayzen> dpm, i had replied to the mailing list before but i updated the use cases in the bug report
12:18 * popey pokes thostr
12:18 <ahayzen> popey, you wanted to remove Grilo from the image i guess we would need to migrate the app to the new API in order for this to happen?
12:18 <dpm> ahayzen, we'll ping jamesh to give him a heads up, but I think that's probably all what he needs
12:18 <popey> right.
12:18 <dpm> thanks a lot for looking int this
12:18 <ahayzen> np
12:19 <popey> 12:18:57 < thostr_> popey: yes, looks good
12:19 <dpm> excellent :)
12:19 <ahayzen> cool
12:19 <dpm> also, I'm not sure if you guys have seen this: https://plus.google.com/110986007444194079352/posts/6F5FZ5ikUtW
12:19 <ahayzen> haha i was just about to ask how it was coming on
12:19 <dpm> so in the next few days we're getting the media hub \o/
12:20 <ahayzen> we had an email to us a few weeks ago asking us some Gst questions/use cases so should be good :)
12:20 <dpm> we'll need to drop the powerd plugin and switch to media hub, but from my understanding that shouldn't be too much work
12:20 <ahayzen> dpm, popey, is the media-hub expected to be transparent to us or will the APIs also change?
12:21 <dpm> ahayzen, from the conversations with jhodapp, it will be transparent for all apps using Qt Multimedia
12:21 <dpm> ahayzen, we're not using Gstreamer directly, are we?
12:21 <ahayzen> dpm, cool, and hopefully with some extra features at some point :)
12:22 <dpm> yeah, although I'm afraid we'll lose the "feature" whereby music keeps playing during a call :)
12:22 <ahayzen> dpm, nope...but he asked if there were any use cases where we would need to or missing from the current MediaPlayer....which we replied with Gst plugins (eg Equaliser, compressors etc) could be useful to us and other apps
12:22 <ahayzen> dpm, haha lol
12:22 <dpm> :)
12:22 <popey> oh man
12:23 <popey> We were in a bar last week, Bill phoned Jono while Jono was playing some hideous metal
12:23 <ahayzen> lol
12:23 <popey> Jono seemed delighted that the metal carried on in his ear
12:23 <popey> but yeah, that needs fixing
12:24 <ahayzen> will the media-hub handle a list of tracks?
12:24 <ahayzen> and then be able to shuffle/repeat over them?
12:24 <ahayzen> or does it only take one track for now?
12:24 <dpm> ahayzen, I'm not familiar with that part. I think there is a Qt playlist api but we're not using it because of some limitations?
12:25 <dpm> I think Victor mentioned something along those lines, but I'm not sure
12:25 <popey> I don't know. We need to find the spec from jim
12:25 <ahayzen> dpm, probably no QML plugin? or was that the Eq
12:25 <dpm> ah, that could have been it, it cannot be used from QML
12:25 <ahayzen> because if it does i think we were hoping it would fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1251624
12:26 <dpm> ah, I see
12:27 <ahayzen> dpm, i guess it would have to have a list of the songs to continue playing, if we now don't have the powerd exception?
12:27 <ahayzen> dpm, otherwise how would it know wht is next if our app has been put to sleep?
12:27 <dpm> yeah, this is something we definitely need to check with Jim Hodapp
12:28 <dpm> popey or ahayzen, do you think you could follow up with him to see how multiple tracks/playlists are going to be handled with media hub for QML apps?
12:29 <ahayzen> dpm, i'll try and have a chat with him at some point in the week :)
12:29 <dpm> excellent, thanks!
12:29 <ahayzen> dpm, jhodapp right?
12:29 <dpm> yeah, he's in US timezone, but there should be some overlap
12:30 <ahayzen> dpm, i'm up at silly times so we'll figure it out :)
12:30 <dpm> :)
12:30 <dpm> he seems to be in #ubuntu-touch now, but marked as afk
12:30 <popey> yeah
12:30 <popey> i poked him earlier
12:31 <popey> will get back to you
12:31 <popey> but feel free to poke him yourself ahayzen ☻
12:32 <popey> Ok. Anything else?
12:32 <ahayzen> cool, popey he is in #ubuntu-touch-music as well :)
12:32 <ahayzen> popey, don't think so just need to try and land things :)
12:33 <popey> ah one other thing
12:33 <popey> balloons and I have taken over from sergio for building and landing clicks in the store
12:33 <popey> so when you're ready to do a release, contact either of us and we'll get it done
12:34 <ahayzen> understood
12:34 <popey> be good to get a new release out soon. We haven't updated in a while.
12:34 <ahayzen> popey, when was the last update?
12:35 <popey> 2 weeks
12:35 <popey> rev 329
12:35 <ahayzen> popey, well this search stuff is likely the land over the next few days
12:35 <ahayzen> popey, so after tht?
12:35 <popey> search would be good to have for mwc
12:35 <popey> then dpm can show it off there ☻
12:35 <ahayzen> yep :)
12:35 <dpm> \o/
12:36 <ahayzen> popey, still trying to squash the horrible header covering back button :(
12:36 <popey> then he can easily find all his fave Abba songs
12:36 <ahayzen> dpm, if u get tht ^^ then use the HUD to go back ;)
12:36 <popey> oh good tip!
12:36 <popey> I didn't know that workaround
12:36 <ahayzen> everyone loves abba :)
12:36 <popey> ended up killing the app
12:36 <popey> AHA!
12:37 <ahayzen> popey, yep i think Esc on the desktop will work as well
12:37 <popey> k
12:37 <dpm> ahayzen, ah, nice. I've not had it that often, but good to know the workaround!
12:37 <popey> Ok, anything else?
12:37 <ahayzen> dpm, a good chance to demo the HUD as well ;)
12:37 <ahayzen> not from me
12:38 <popey> dpm: ?
12:38 <dpm> I'm all set too
12:39 <popey> Sweet!
12:39 <ahayzen> popey, dpm, have a good weekend and happy hacking :)
12:39 <popey> you too
12:39 <popey> #endmeeting