19:02 <popey> #startmeeting Weather app meeting 19:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Feb 6 19:02:01 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 19:02 <meetingology> 19:02 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 19:02 <popey> Weather App links:- 19:02 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+bugs 19:02 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-weather-app/+activereviews 19:02 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-weather-dev 19:02 <popey> General Links:- 19:02 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones 19:02 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/ 19:02 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers 19:02 <popey> hi neokore 19:02 <neokore> Hi guys 19:02 <m-b-o> Hi 19:04 <dpm> hey all 19:04 <m-b-o> I've played a little bit with haptic effects and added one to hourly scrolling. Made a merge proposal some minutes ago 19:04 <m-b-o> hi dpm 19:05 <neokore> I'm downloading your branch to test 19:06 <popey> Seems we have no updates regarding the TWC API documentation? 19:07 <dpm> Same status as what I mentioned on the e-mail, I'll keep everyone on the loop when TWC come back to us 19:07 <popey> ok, thanks 19:08 <m-b-o> are keyboard shortcuts possible or are we waiting on sdk changes? 19:09 <popey> they should be possible, other apps have added them 19:09 <m-b-o> ok. ok. which one for example? 19:09 <m-b-o> oh, ok 19:10 <popey> clock is a good example 19:10 <dpm> m-b-o, neokore, looking at https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-weather-dev is there any work item that we need to update? I'll mark the TWC ones as BLOCKED 19:10 <popey> CTRL+TAB to switch tabs 19:10 <popey> ctrl+n for new.. 19:11 <m-b-o> dpm: I wll implement keyborad shortcuts on the weekend 19:11 <popey> great. 19:11 <dpm> sounds good 19:12 <dpm> have you guys got any experience with layouts to make apps convergent? 19:12 <m-b-o> not yet :) 19:12 <neokore> the animations need some improvements, they are aren't too fluid on my N4 19:13 <neokore> I'll work on them before setting the work item done 19:13 <neokore> dpm: no experience, no 19:13 <dpm> m-b-o, neokore, if we get some community designs for a convergent layout, would you be interested in looking at implementing them? I think having weather working on tablet mode would be really cool 19:13 <m-b-o> dpm: sorry, changed blueprints reverted. will fix it 19:13 <dpm> this might be more fun than waiting on TWC feedback 19:14 <neokore> dpm: truly 19:14 <dpm> m-b-o, no worries 19:14 <m-b-o> dpm: yes 19:14 <dpm> awesome 19:14 <popey> \o/ 19:15 <dpm> m-b-o, neokore, I think I'll put together a document and will ask for some community designs for different views. If I share it with you guys and as soon as we start getting designs, could you help with some feedback? You are the ones who have got the most knowledge on the app, and your views would be really useful for designers 19:16 <m-b-o> yes! 19:16 <neokore> dpm: of course! 19:16 <dpm> ok, great, let me put a work item for me to do this 19:18 <dpm> ok, blueprint updated 19:19 <dpm> I think popey e-mailed you about it, but we've got the Mobile World Congress (MWC) coming up 19:19 <neokore> Guys, could you tell me how do you feel the animations on your devices? 19:20 <m-b-o> nekore: I feel like you, could be more fluid 19:20 <dpm> neokore, yeah, same here, but they are good! 19:20 <neokore> are all of you using a nexus 4? 19:20 <m-b-o> yes 19:20 <popey> yes 19:21 <neokore> ok, I'll improve them 19:21 <dpm> thanks neokore 19:21 <neokore> np 19:22 <neokore> dpm, sorry, what about WMC? 19:22 <m-b-o> try it on gnexus now 19:23 <dpm> MWC will be a great oportunity to showcase the Weather app (and all other core apps!) Having the TWC backend will be a great feature to show the interest for big names on a free OS, with open source apps 19:23 <m-b-o> dpm: sounds good! 19:23 <dpm> indeed :) 19:24 <neokore> dpm: really good 19:24 <dpm> I know there is only 3 weeks to go, but another feature that would be great would be to have some convergent views to show on the tablet. That's why I'd like to go this extra mile to get community designs and see if we can get at least a few views that are tablet-specific 19:24 <m-b-o> neokore: it's ok on galaxy nexus, not as fluid like on n4. but ok 19:24 <dpm> what do you think? 19:25 <neokore> dpm I think we could make it 19:25 <m-b-o> we can try :) 19:25 <neokore> I MUST spend more time on Weather App, so, I'm your man 19:26 <popey> awesome 19:26 <dpm> \o/ 19:26 <popey> i am getting a tablet next week so will do some more testing 19:26 <m-b-o> neokore :) ! 19:26 <neokore> hehe 19:26 <m-b-o> dpm, popey: can we perhaps change the phone design, to make it easier perhaps for converged views? 19:26 <dpm> we've got some mockups already for Calendar, and I'd like to put them in a separate document as the clock guys did https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Convergence 19:27 <neokore> will tablet version be the same for maximized window on desktop? 19:27 <dpm> the clock app community designers did an awesome job at it: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GVDuiTD7F5K3vL_IYets_8SsqTS3PebCNArqvEuvaME/edit 19:27 <dpm> m-b-o, yeah, we can, although my suggestion would be not to do too radical changes to minimize the amount of work 19:29 <dpm> neokore, there needs to be some work done in the platform for true convergence, so that an app can query whether it's running on phone, tablet or desktop. But right now, you can think of the desktop maximized version as "tablet mode" for testing 19:29 <m-b-o> dpm yes, of course. But sometimes the squares are a little bit limiting sometimes, to show data and so on 19:29 <neokore> dpm: ok 19:29 <dpm> m-b-o, ah, I see what you mean 19:30 <m-b-o> putting the houzrly data in something like a table on tablet would be cool 19:31 <m-b-o> and perhaps something like a naviagtion bar for days too 19:34 <dpm> m-b-o, yeah, that's great feedback, indeed 19:35 <dpm> m-b-o, I'll put together the doc, and feel free to put any feedback or mockups yourselves if you've got any ideas 19:35 <m-b-o> dpm ok! 19:35 <neokore> dpm: great 19:36 <dpm> awesome 19:36 <dpm> so shall we wrap it up here? Anything else you guys wanted to discuss? 19:36 <m-b-o> no, nothin on my side 19:36 <neokore> I think no 19:37 <popey> I just wanted to mention that I'm super excited about upcoming announcements, and look forward to seeing people using your app at MWC 19:37 <dpm> \o/ 19:37 <popey> Thanks so much for your hard work guys, it's really appreciated! 19:37 <m-b-o> yeah! :) 19:37 <m-b-o> thank you! 19:37 <neokore> thank you! 19:37 <dpm> I'll be at MWC, and I'll be showing off some community power with core apps :) 19:38 <dpm> Talk to you soon, and hopefully the next time to bring some good news to unblock the TWC backend :) 19:38 <m-b-o> dpm that would be great! :) 19:38 <dpm> #endmeeting 19:38 <dpm> :-) 19:39 <popey> #endmeeting