12:59 <popey> #startmeeting RSS Reader App meeting 12:59 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Jan 3 12:59:57 2014 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 12:59 <meetingology> 12:59 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 12:59 <JoeyChan> good to c u again 13:00 <popey> Boilerplate.. 13:00 <popey> RSS Reader App links:- 13:00 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bugs 13:00 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+activereviews 13:00 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-rssreader-dev 13:00 <popey> General Links:- 13:00 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones 13:00 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/ 13:00 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers 13:00 <popey> you too.. how was the holiday for you? 13:00 <JoeyChan> well xmas is not an official holiday :P 13:01 <JoeyChan> in China 13:01 <popey> Aw, shame. 13:01 <JoeyChan> ok, when shall we begin development ? 13:02 <popey> Now! :D 13:02 <JoeyChan> I saw the blueprint 13:02 <JoeyChan> haha 13:02 <popey> So the priority for this cycle is convergence.. 13:02 <popey> making sure the app works well on phone, tablet, desktop 13:03 <popey> Making sure it's possible to operate the app on the desktop with a keyboard and mouse.. just like you can on the phone/tablet with touch. 13:03 <popey> Mouse scrolling for example. 13:03 <JoeyChan> i c 13:03 <popey> Redrawing the application when the window resizes 13:03 <JoeyChan> so.. does the design start yet ? 13:04 <popey> We haven't received any designs, but we'll put the call out for them 13:04 <JoeyChan> ok 13:04 <popey> As I mentioned at the end of last year, the canonical design team may not have time to help us 13:04 <popey> but we can try and get community designs and pass them to the design team for review if they can. 13:04 <JoeyChan> oh.. 13:05 <JoeyChan> I remember there is a design team in G+ 13:06 <JoeyChan> will them help ? 13:06 <popey> We can ask 13:06 <popey> Most of Canonical is still on holiday 13:06 <popey> On monday I'll speak to the guys and we'll put a call out 13:06 <JoeyChan> ok 13:07 <popey> I'll convert the goals into some work items in the blueprint 13:07 <popey> and file a couple of bugs for the desktop navigation things 13:08 <JoeyChan> yep, agree 13:09 <popey> The only other (lower priority) feature that might be nice, would be to allow subscriptions from the browser 13:09 <popey> So if a user clicks on an RSS feed in the web browser, it could trigger a subscription in Shorts.. 13:09 <popey> but I think that would need some further discussion 13:09 <popey> and isn't a high priority given we have a search function which works well in shorts 13:10 <JoeyChan> i c 13:10 <JoeyChan> designs first :) 13:10 <popey> Yes! :D 13:11 <popey> Other than that I didn't have anything else to discuss, do you? 13:11 <JoeyChan> i do have a question 13:12 <JoeyChan> about the SDK 13:12 <popey> ok. 13:12 <JoeyChan> the default template is pure qml 13:12 <JoeyChan> but if I want to use c++ 13:13 <JoeyChan> that will be hard to develop 13:13 <popey> We have other apps which have qml and C++ 13:13 <popey> Music App, File Manager, Terminal. 13:14 <JoeyChan> yep I know 13:15 <JoeyChan> some process needs manual operate 13:15 <JoeyChan> like deploy on phone 13:15 <popey> yes. 13:15 <JoeyChan> run on phone etc.. 13:16 <JoeyChan> and can't debug :( 13:16 <popey> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~reminders-app-dev/reminders-app/trunk/view/head:/run_on_ubuntu_touch.sh 13:16 <popey> might be useful 13:16 <popey> for running on device 13:17 <JoeyChan> wow, didn't know that 13:17 <popey> needs a little tweaking to work with other apps, but that could be useful 13:17 <popey> I have used it to run reminders-app on the phone, from my pc 13:17 <popey> debug output appears in the shell on the pc, or also worth looking in /home/phablet/.cache/upstart 13:18 <JoeyChan> so.. just run this script under the source code folder ? 13:19 <popey> yes 13:19 <JoeyChan> cool :D 13:20 <popey> yeah, it's very handy 13:20 <popey> I think mzanetti who wrote it, uses it in all his apps 13:21 <JoeyChan> will the SDK integrate this script ? 13:22 <popey> I think the SDk are working on a different solution 13:22 <popey> one which does cross-compiling on your pc 13:22 <popey> then builds a click package for deployment to the device 13:22 <JoeyChan> I am quite miss the time I developed Nokia Meego app :P 13:23 <JoeyChan> it's SDK can run apps via WIFI 13:23 <popey> nice. 13:24 <popey> technically you can run apps via wifi on ubuntu touch 13:24 <popey> if you "adb shell sshd start" 13:24 <popey> er, "adb shell start sshd" i think 13:24 <JoeyChan> :P 13:24 <popey> alan@deep-thought:~$ adb shell start ssh 13:24 <popey> ssh start/running, process 8360 13:24 <popey> close ☻ 13:24 <popey> and then modify that script to do it over wifi rather than adb push 13:24 <JoeyChan> I mean run from SDK directly :) 13:24 <popey> but yes, the SDK *should* do this 13:24 <popey> yeah, I agree 13:25 <popey> Ok. Anything else? 13:25 <JoeyChan> nope, I think that's all so far 13:25 <JoeyChan> :D 13:26 <JoeyChan> thanks for the script 13:26 <popey> No probs 13:26 <popey> ok, have a great weekend 13:26 <JoeyChan> :) 13:26 <JoeyChan> u 2 13:26 <popey> We'll get the design call out next week.. 13:26 <popey> see you 13:26 <popey> #endmeeting