14:02 <popey> #startmeeting Calendar app meeting 14:02 <meetingology> Meeting started Thu Dec 19 14:02:24 2013 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 14:02 <meetingology> 14:02 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 14:02 <popey> Calendar App links:- 14:02 <popey> Bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bugs 14:02 <popey> Reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+activereviews 14:02 <popey> Blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-calendar-dev 14:02 <popey> General Links:- 14:02 <popey> Milestones: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/+milestones 14:02 <popey> Burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-14.04/ 14:02 <popey> Blockers: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Blockers 14:03 <popey> a few things to mention as an agenda.. 14:03 <popey> * Deciding on features for 14.04 14:03 <popey> * Finalise work items 14:03 <popey> * Setting milestones for work items 14:03 <popey> * Bugs, merges, work items! 14:03 <popey> * Blockers 14:03 <popey> hey pkunal-parmar 14:03 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: hey 14:03 <pkunal-parmar> Hi All 14:04 <popey> pkunal-parmar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6599833/ is what I said just before you arrived, just so you don't miss anything ☻ 14:04 <popey> For 14.04 I pulled over the existing POSTPONED items from the previous blueprint 14:04 <popey> as a starting point. 14:04 <popey> and wanted to talk to you guys about what would be fun to do for 14.04. 14:05 <popey> The two main things that I had in mind for calendar app were 1) convergence - making the UK fit well on a tablet sized device, and b) syncing 14:05 <Mihir> syncing with Google calendar? 14:05 <popey> By syncing I mean synchronising calendar content to a provider of some kind 14:05 <popey> that could be google, yes. 14:06 <Mihir> Okay that's sounds great :) 14:06 <popey> I think that would make the app 10x more useful to everyone. 14:06 <popey> What do you guys think? 14:06 <pkunal-parmar> Popey, somehow google cal is synced with calendar for desktop at least 14:07 <pkunal-parmar> so may be is mostly is EDS work on Calendar work 14:07 <pkunal-parmar> *not 14:07 <popey> oh? 14:07 <popey> I hadn't seen it working on desktop. 14:07 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: still we are left with the reminder and completing all the task of EDS , am I correct ? 14:07 <popey> oh yes, reminders too! good call! 14:08 <pkunal-parmar> and may be online account needs to provide some support for google login 14:08 <popey> We have google account login in online accounts already 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> yes many fields are still not supported by EDS, 14:09 <pkunal-parmar> I seen mhall was able to sync with google cal 14:09 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: yeah we haven't completed that in our first release I guess... 14:09 <popey> yes, I think he had to jump through some hoops to make the google calendar sync work 14:10 <popey> https://plus.google.com/u/0/109919666334513536939/posts/hpn9o1ztkYN 14:10 <popey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SyncEvolution/synchronize-multiple-google-calendars-with-evolution-calendars 14:10 <pkunal-parmar> so mostly, I would like to complete all missing field support first, I was trying with recurrence already, but EDS is needs to support it 14:11 <pkunal-parmar> may be same with other fields as well 14:11 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: agreed..that needs to supported first and pushed into EDS 14:12 <popey> I sense some work items forming ㋛ 14:12 <Mihir> popey: what are the timelines for next release ? 14:12 <popey> I'm glad you asked that! 14:12 <popey> 14.04 releases at end of april 14:13 <Mihir> and phone release must be in May correct? 14:13 <popey> However we also have a deal with a handset manufacturer in the works. 14:13 <popey> I don't have a timeline for when that handset will be available 14:13 <popey> It seems some of this (non convergence work) could be ready fairly soon? 14:13 <pkunal-parmar> that release support tablet as well 14:14 <popey> i theory, yes. 14:14 <Mihir> popey: okay 14:14 <popey> *in 14:14 <popey> But I think we need more design input for how to show the calendar on tablet form factor first 14:14 <pkunal-parmar> I realized now we dont have UI designer for calendar team ? 14:14 <popey> correct 14:14 <Mihir> popey: why so ? 14:14 <popey> We put a call out for some designers to get involved 14:14 <popey> The Canonical design team are stretched to capacity 14:14 <Mihir> okay :) 14:15 <popey> However we can try and get some community people involved 14:15 <popey> I'll take an action to put a call out to help with the convergence designs 14:15 <Mihir> Okay that sounds great :) I have friend as well i can ask them if they are really interested :) 14:16 <popey> ok, added a work item to https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/coreapps-1404-calendar-dev 14:16 <popey> notice I have added it under a milestone for week 51 (this week) 14:16 <popey> we have milestones setup for the next few weeks. 14:16 <Mihir> okay 14:16 <popey> I think we'll have a presence at MWC (February) - Mobile World Congress 14:17 <popey> be good to have something cool (like sync) to show off there? 14:17 <Mihir> popey: where is it happening ? 14:17 <pkunal-parmar> [popey] - Put out the call for more converged music app designs: TODO 14:17 <popey> barcelona iirc 14:17 <popey> doh 14:17 <popey> copy/paste error 14:17 <pkunal-parmar> ok :) 14:17 <Mihir> ohhh okay 14:17 <popey> thanks 14:17 <popey> fixed 14:18 <pkunal-parmar> iCalendar import / export: POSTPONED 14:18 <pkunal-parmar> we can target this as well 14:18 <popey> that would be good 14:18 <popey> we have week milestones setup through to end of feb iirc 14:18 <pkunal-parmar> I would add reminder and other missing fields support also 14:19 <popey> feel free to add work items as appropriate of course 14:19 <pkunal-parmar> and for google cal sync, I think we need to discuss with renato first 14:19 <pkunal-parmar> how EDS is going to handle that and what can calendar do for it 14:19 <popey> renato: you about? 14:20 <renato> guys the google sync will be done on online accounts 14:20 <renato> mardy is working on that 14:20 <Mihir> okay that's great, so there is nothing that needs to be done on application side ?? 14:20 <renato> linke in android you will be able to select which information you want to sync 14:20 <pkunal-parmar> ok 14:21 <popey> great. 14:21 <renato> nothing need to be done on app sinde 14:21 <renato> side 14:21 <pkunal-parmar> ranato, I tried your recurrence branch but i faced some issue, I send mail as well 14:21 <renato> pkunal-parmar, I saw that, could you send me a example, or how to reproduce that 14:21 <Mihir> popey: you'll put a design call on ubuntu developer website ? 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> sure 14:22 <popey> Mihir: not sure exactly where and how.. I'll discuss with dpm and mhall119 and come up with something 14:22 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: for MR :- https://code.launchpad.net/~mihirsoni-123/ubuntu-calendar-app/editEvent/+merge/190106 everything is okay right ?? i don't know why it is failing in Jenkins, 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> may be it just my setup issue, I just tried adding event as usual 14:22 <pkunal-parmar> now it should pass 14:22 <Mihir> popey: okay :) 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> try triggering test again 14:23 <pkunal-parmar> popey, do you know if I need to do anything special to make autopilot work on 13.10 ? 14:24 <popey> pass. balloons ? 14:24 <pkunal-parmar> currently its hanging on my pc 14:24 <pkunal-parmar> so stuck with one MR 14:26 <pkunal-parmar> renato, I am also facing issue while deleting event, EDS is not giving any notification for data change event 14:27 <pkunal-parmar> so not able to update UI after deleting event 14:27 <renato> pkunal-parmar, please report bugs about that with examples 14:27 <pkunal-parmar> sure 14:28 <pkunal-parmar> BTW where should I report bug for EDS 14:28 <popey> renato: will the eds work support multiple accounts? 14:29 <renato> popey, yes 14:29 <renato> each account will be represented as collection on qorganizer 14:29 <popey> so in the calendar app we're going to have to deal with how we show multiple calendars and show/hide on demand 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> for show/hide, i think user needs to change setting in account setting 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> for display we will need to use different color 14:30 <pkunal-parmar> for event 14:30 <popey> right. 14:30 <popey> makes sense. 14:31 <popey> Are there any other features besides sync, reminders and convergence we'd like? 14:32 <pkunal-parmar> I can not think of anything else 14:32 <Mihir> Not from my side as well 14:32 <popey> Other than bug fixing and polish of course ☻ 14:33 <pkunal-parmar> I think for 4 month this much work items are enough :) 14:33 <popey> Indeed. Now holidays! 14:34 <popey> The only other thing I wanted to mention is that we want to try and keep on top of any blockers you have 14:34 <Mihir> ahaha yeah pkunal-parmar 14:34 <popey> so if there's anything blocking from platform, sdk or others, we want to track it so nothing gets lost 14:34 <popey> we'll review that to make sure we're making progress 14:34 <Mihir> pkunal-parmar: I'll patch you up with work :) 14:35 <pkunal-parmar> yes current blocker is autopilot for me, it does not work on my pc 14:35 <pkunal-parmar> I heard it needs new python version to make it work ? 14:35 <popey> I'm running 13.10 here.. 14:36 <popey> but I tend to use AP On the device, not on my desktop 14:36 <popey> do you have a set of steps you're running that are failing so I can try it? 14:36 <pkunal-parmar> popey, what is latest instruction to update device, I have 13.10 and did not updated it afterwards 14:37 <popey> phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel trusty 14:37 <popey> ^^ that 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> https://code.launchpad.net/~pkunal-parmar/ubuntu-calendar-app/nextYearFix/+merge/197624 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> no steps, I just used autopilot run calendar-app 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> but it hangs 14:37 <pkunal-parmar> gets darken and does nothing 14:38 <pkunal-parmar> I need to fix something to get above MR merged 14:38 <popey> I would update your phone to trusty 14:38 <popey> the latest stable image is #73 and it's pretty solid 14:38 <pkunal-parmar> I will try device then and see it that works fine 14:38 <popey> when I want to run AP tests I use this script:- 14:38 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6600028/ 14:39 <popey> ./testing.sh lp:ubuntu-calendar-app calendar_app 14:39 <popey> ^^ like that 14:39 <popey> but point it at your branch on that merge, and it will do the tests on the device 14:39 <popey> you don't need to make the phone read/write, it does it all in the home directory, works quite well 14:39 <popey> you just have to make sure the screen doesn't go to sleep when the test starts 14:39 <popey> that should be more successful. 14:40 <pkunal-parmar> ok, this sounds great, will try that 14:40 <popey> do let me know if that doesn't work and we'll get balloons on the case. 14:40 <popey> brilliant. 14:40 <popey> Anything else we need to discuss? 14:40 <pkunal-parmar> No. I am done now 14:40 <Mihir> popey: nope nothing from my side 14:41 <popey> sweet! 14:41 <Mihir> popey: are we gonna meet next week ? 14:41 <Mihir> I guess it's holidays so just asking 14:41 <popey> I think we need a break ☻ 14:41 <popey> after one busy meeting ㋛ 14:41 <popey> lets meet up again after next week. 14:41 <Mihir> hehehe okay so, and also one day earlier one day pkunal-parmar 14:41 <Mihir> ? 14:42 <Mihir> i mean wednesday will work for all ? 14:42 <popey> eh? 14:42 <Mihir> Meeting day 14:42 <popey> is thursday not good for you Mihir ? 14:42 <Mihir> actually I am travelling next week for two months 14:42 <popey> gosh. 14:42 <Mihir> for some office work :( 14:43 <Mihir> anyways we'll discuss afterwards that's fine 14:43 <popey> Ok. Lets keep in touch via email if you're not around for the irc meeting. 14:43 <popey> Or whenever you're on irc. 14:43 <popey> You know I'm around most of the time. 14:43 <Mihir> popey: sure :) 14:43 <Mihir> popey: yeah i know :) I'll send you email 14:43 <popey> Ok, lets wrap. 14:43 <popey> Thanks guys! 14:43 <popey> #endmeeting