19:02 <popey> #startmeeting ubuntu touch music app meeting
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19:02 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-music-development
19:02 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app
19:02 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews
19:02 <popey> status: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/
19:02 <popey> Hows you?
19:03 <danielholm> I'm good thanks, and you?
19:04 <popey> Great!
19:04 <danielholm> :)
19:04 <danielholm> so just you and me
19:04 <popey> looks that way.
19:05 <popey> So, we're migrating all the core apps to be click packages
19:05 <danielholm> okay
19:05 <popey> you might see a bit of breakage over the next day or so
19:05 <danielholm> even music?
19:05 <danielholm> okay
19:05 <popey> everything
19:05 <popey> this way we can deploy updates post-release
19:05 <popey> We don't yet have a plan for which updates to do
19:06 <danielholm> cool
19:06 <popey> I mean, we're not immediately expecting you guys to continue working on the app after 13.10.
19:06 <danielholm> okay. but it sounds like a good idea
19:06 <popey> I anticipate you guys will want a break ㋛
19:06 <danielholm> hehe, good. I have so work and school to finish up then
19:06 <popey> We will look at deploying updates through the store.
19:06 <danielholm> yeah, but just a little one ;)
19:06 <danielholm> okay
19:06 <popey> And I expect we'll get some bug fixes in at some point
19:07 <popey> but like I say, no formal plan yet
19:07 <popey> just bear it in mind.
19:07 <danielholm> but some parts of Music still needed other backend stuff, right? will this be any issue for us?
19:07 <popey> How do you mean?
19:08 <danielholm> luic talked about two kinds of click packages
19:08 <ahayzen> popey, o/
19:08 <danielholm> welocome mate
19:09 <popey> Yeah, that's right
19:09 <danielholm> will that be some kind of issue for us+
19:09 <ahayzen> danielholm, o/ whts going on?
19:09 <danielholm> click packages
19:10 <popey> I don't think so.
19:10 <popey> loic and the platform guys are dealing with that
19:10 <ahayzen> danielholm, ah
19:10 <popey> music will be an exception
19:10 <popey> different from other apps
19:10 <danielholm> yeah, but we wont need to do anything about it ourselves?
19:10 <popey> I don't _think_ so
19:10 <danielholm> ok
19:11 <danielholm> keep us updated ;)
19:11 <popey> will do!
19:11 <popey> so my questions for you guys.
19:11 <popey> ahayzen: hows the custom toolbar work going?
19:11 <popey> and..
19:11 <popey> danielholm: how are we looking with expandible items in library view?
19:12 <ahayzen> popey, to be blunt, it works like this https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/toolbar-rewrite-1/+merge/188917 :) hehe
19:13 <danielholm> popey: I have figured out a way of implementing them, I just had a n issue with album art wanting to follow the expanded items, which I now believe I have resolved. also there are transitions I have to add.
19:13 <ahayzen> popey, basically a rectangle (with other rectangles inside) at the bottom with a mousearea tht is dragged up/down... then just some hooks so it knows wht page it is in to display the correct content/back behaviour
19:13 <ahayzen> popey, it is all working perfectly just need to finish off some of the design parts (as detailed in the branch)
19:13 <danielholm> popey, and the expandable items are also a rectangular with stuff in it that gets shown/hidden depending on user clisk
19:14 <popey> ahayzen: \o/
19:14 <popey> danielholm: \o/
19:14 <popey> Suh-weet!
19:14 <ahayzen> popey, only issue i'm having is autopilot...https://code.launchpad.net/~andrew-hayzen/music-app/toolbar-rewrite-1/+merge/188917/comments/433748
19:15 * popey invokes a spell.. balloons?
19:15 <danielholm> I wish Victor was here so he could help with the the meta data I need, since he is the most experianced with that. but I'll send him a amail instead
19:15 <danielholm> it really feels that we can do this!
19:16 <danielholm> ahayzen, got any plans for tomorrow?
19:16 <balloons> ui changes landing?
19:16 <ahayzen> danielholm, as i said recovering :) but i should be free most of the day
19:16 <balloons> ohh indeed ;-)
19:17 <popey> ahayzen: you been unwell?
19:17 <danielholm> ahayzen: I was talking about the night ;)
19:17 <ahayzen> balloons, yep, as i said i managed to get it to drag the toolbar up but then got stuck trying to then click on the button
19:17 <danielholm> he is being a young graduate ;)
19:17 <ahayzen> popey, i'm a university student :)
19:17 <popey> ☻
19:17 <danielholm> says it all
19:17 <popey> *that* kind of recovery.
19:18 <ahayzen> yh
19:18 <popey> Make the most of it.
19:18 <balloons> ahayzen, ok, should be simple enough to change things around. We just got the tests passing again, so let's not regress :-)
19:18 <ahayzen> balloons, yep
19:18 <danielholm> :)
19:18 <balloons> the emulator has functions to click buttons and open toolbars
19:18 <ahayzen> balloons, popey although the next button isn't in the toolbar anymore just in the now playing page?
19:19 <ahayzen> popey, in the music player spec they did show the play controls in an older version which showed this but they have now removed all images of this component so i don't know wht they want it to look like :/
19:20 <danielholm> ahayzen: I've ssen images, but they have not shared them in either of our doecs yet
19:20 <popey> gah
19:20 <ahayzen> danielholm, they were there but they got removed when it got updated... u can partially see it at the bottom on the first slide on the left phone
19:20 <danielholm> oh, wait, ahayzen, have you got acess to the latest doc?
19:21 <ahayzen> danielholm, tht one?
19:21 <popey> can you not look at previous versions?
19:21 <danielholm> that one, yeah ;)
19:21 <popey> ah, no.
19:21 <ahayzen> danielholm, no if u look at page 1 then look at the left phone look at tht toolbar
19:21 <danielholm> ah!
19:22 <ahayzen> danielholm, tht was detailed in the other pages but got removed :/
19:22 <danielholm> we should probably ask the design team to update the docs with only how it should look
19:22 <danielholm> hopefully they'll put the new stuff in there then
19:22 <ahayzen> danielholm, my branch looks how it did before it got removed
19:23 <ahayzen> with Play and settings in the toolbar rather than Play and Next
19:23 <danielholm> which is amazing
19:23 <ahayzen> thx
19:24 <danielholm> but the other stuff should be visible when showin the nowplaying sheet, right=
19:24 <ahayzen> yeah it is
19:24 <ahayzen> but the problem is tht autopilot was using the old one
19:24 <danielholm> awesome
19:24 <danielholm> but then that is kind of done, right?
19:25 <danielholm> aha
19:25 <ahayzen> danielholm, it should be possible but i just get tht error i detailed in the merge when i try and access the buttons/objs
19:26 <danielholm> which is most important right now: autopilot working all the time or getting stuff in to Music? honest question, really
19:26 <popey> Both ☻
19:26 <ahayzen> autopilot working tbh
19:26 <danielholm> ok
19:26 <ahayzen> we are way to close to release
19:27 <ahayzen> balloons, any idea wht the error msg i'm getting means?
19:27 <balloons> ahayzen, ohh let me look
19:27 <ahayzen> balloons, i mean its the error when i'm running locally it states 'StateNotFoundError: State not found for class 'Rectangle' and filters {'objectName': 'playshape'}.'
19:29 <ahayzen> balloons, i can push my changes to the tests up if tht is of use?
19:29 <balloons> ahayzen, ok so it's trying to find the button which no longer exists
19:30 <ahayzen> balloons, yep but i changed it locally... hang on
19:31 <ahayzen> balloons, have a look at lp:~andrew-hayzen/music-app/toolbar-rewrite-1 now it has the updated tests
19:31 <balloons> ahayzen, push up your latest version, we'll migrate to #ubuntu-app-devel and solve it
19:31 <balloons> I don't want to steal popey's meetin' time ;-)
19:31 <ahayzen> balloons, ok :)
19:31 <ahayzen> hehe
19:31 <popey> It's fine!
19:31 <popey> Use it!
19:31 <ahayzen> popey, wht should i get on with next assuming this is resolved soon?
19:32 <ahayzen> popey, wht i'm saying is wht is of the highest priority tht is left to do?
19:32 <danielholm> maybe the meta data stuff
19:32 <danielholm> and polish
19:32 <popey> Yeah, bug work basically.
19:33 <popey> throw some odd use cases at it
19:33 <ahayzen> ok cool we aren't missing any major features now?
19:33 <ahayzen> this is basically how the main workflow of the app will be for 1.0?
19:33 <popey> lots of individial tracks in separate albums for example
19:33 <danielholm> yeah, putting albums in sheets
19:33 <ahayzen> ok
19:34 <popey> Bascially see if you can break it.
19:34 <popey> (and then fix it) ☻
19:34 <ahayzen> hehe
19:34 <ahayzen> danielholm, u asked the designers about images IIRC?
19:34 <danielholm> yes
19:35 <danielholm> an icons
19:35 <ahayzen> cause with the circular buttons on the toolbar it looks quite bad until we get ones with transparent bgs
19:35 <danielholm> ÿeah
19:36 <danielholm> I hope we get them sson
19:36 <ahayzen> yh same
19:36 <danielholm> soon
19:36 <danielholm> I can send them another mail
19:37 <popey> ok.
19:37 <danielholm> but yeah, whats left are expandable items, the cover art, when pressing an artist it should dsplay albums, not tracks, albums should be in its own sheet, show genres, number of albums and number of tracks
19:39 <danielholm> also, if we somehow could speed up the upstart
19:40 <popey> Do we have a bug tracking startup time?
19:42 <danielholm> yeah
19:42 <danielholm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1234990
19:42 <ahayzen> bug tracking startup time?...oh a bug that is tracking 'startup time'
19:43 <popey> yeah ☻
19:43 <danielholm> yeah I didnt get it either firs
19:43 <popey> <- terrible at English ☻
19:43 <ahayzen> danielholm, is better than the both of us :)
19:43 <danielholm> haha, no english thats ahrd
19:44 <popey> ^proof
19:44 <danielholm> hshs
19:44 <ahayzen> exactly lol
19:44 <popey> Ok. Anything else we need to discuss?
19:44 <popey> Other than "OMG! not many days now!"
19:44 <ahayzen> not from me
19:44 <danielholm> Im good
19:45 <popey> Awesome!
19:45 <ahayzen> have a great weekend guys :)
19:45 <popey> You too.
19:46 <popey> #endmeeting