19:03 <popey> #startmeeting ubuntu touch music app meeting 19:03 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri Aug 16 19:03:36 2013 UTC. The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. 19:03 <meetingology> 19:03 <meetingology> Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired 19:03 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-music-development 19:04 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0 19:04 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews 19:04 <popey> https://code.launchpad.net/music-app/+activereviews 19:04 <popey> bah 19:04 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ 19:05 <popey> so the first thing to mention is the fact that we're at the end of month-4 milestone 19:05 <ahayzen> I see we have our own burndown now :) http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/music-app-dev.html 19:05 <popey> so we need to assign work items for month-5 which ends mid-september 19:06 <popey> ooh! didnt know that 19:06 <popey> thats a shallow line! 19:07 <ahayzen> so we need to move the work items in the blueprint to month-5? 19:07 <popey> yes 19:07 <popey> those that are blocked, inprogress and todo 19:07 <popey> and review them to make sure they're accurate 19:07 <ahayzen> ok, yeah need to talk with Victor and Daniel about them 19:08 <popey> yeah 19:08 <ahayzen> what happened with the autopilot? were we in a state where desktop was passing but phone wasn't? 19:09 <popey> it passes here 19:09 <popey> well, let me check the log 19:09 <popey> ooh, 2 fails 19:10 <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5993856/ 19:10 <popey> thats running on a nexus 4 19:10 <ahayzen> i added a patch which fixed the initial issues of it not running... but it was failing on phone for some reason 19:10 * popey waves to balloons 19:11 <ahayzen> oh yeah and we were discussing about how to get multiple tracks so that next/pre/shuffle can be tested 19:11 <ahayzen> as there is only one in the example-content 19:11 <popey> hm 19:12 <balloons> yay, music app! 19:12 <popey> hey balloons 19:12 <popey> see above 19:14 <ahayzen> seems to all pass when i run locally http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/5993867/ 19:14 <balloons> atm, it's running the lab just fine 19:14 <popey> i ran it on a phone running the read-only image 19:14 <popey> so that may be a factor 19:15 <balloons> have a look: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/3564/music-app-autopilot/ 19:15 <popey> i believe you ☻ 19:15 <balloons> lol, well we need to expand the tests, and I too have had trouble getting it to run on my desktop and device at times 19:15 <balloons> normally the lab is more finicky, but :-) 19:15 <ahayzen> :) ... is there a summary page I can use to see the tests from the lab? 19:15 <balloons> ahayzen, yes: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/ 19:16 <balloons> I've got a post I'll share today with everyone spreading around this link and talking about it 19:16 <balloons> so it'll hit the list and g+, in case you lose it 19:16 <ahayzen> awesome :) 19:17 <balloons> yes.. so good work on having the tests work and be stable.. I'd like to convert them to the sdk, and add more tests onto them.. but that of course is pending development of new features, etc 19:17 <ahayzen> yeah, we need tests for next/previous/shuffle... but the issue is there is only 1 song in the example-content 19:18 <balloons> ahayzen, I thought we solved that issue by using the public domain music 19:18 <balloons> ? 19:18 <balloons> well, I should say planned to solve it 19:18 <ahayzen> i think it was discussed... maybe not implemented yet? 19:19 <ahayzen> I'll have a chat with Victor and see if he has done anything about tht 19:22 <ahayzen> popey, anything else we need to discuss? I guess start doing some of the things we talked about earlier? 19:22 <popey> not from me 19:22 <popey> basically, yeah, lets get cracking! 19:22 <popey> ☻ 19:22 <ahayzen> hehe 19:22 <popey> anything from your side? 19:23 <ahayzen> erm all i'm worried about was the issue of the binding loops, but I haven't checked if they still exist recently 19:23 <popey> whats the issue? 19:23 <ahayzen> turn shuffle on... hit next a few times and it'll freeze for ~10secs 19:24 <ahayzen> and ur get loads of binding loops in the terminal 19:24 <popey> oh, not seen that 19:24 <ahayzen> it seems to be related to when the header is being shown/hidden when the highlight is moving rapidly up/down the list 19:25 <popey> hey daniel-holm 19:25 <ahayzen> and if IIRC there was something about polish() 19:25 <ahayzen> daniel-holm, o/ 19:25 <daniel-holm> Sorry. I always forget its 19.00 and not 19.30 19:25 <popey> you need a calendar app! :D 19:26 <ahayzen> yep lol 19:26 <daniel-holm> I have one... 19:26 <daniel-holm> It doesnt always help :-P 19:27 <popey> is there anything specific you need to raise daniel-holm ? 19:27 <daniel-holm> Nope. Only that im excited to get started with new stuff 19:28 <ahayzen> popey, u get QQuickWindow: possible QQuickItem::polish() loop.... when it freezes 19:28 <daniel-holm> I'll read the log later 19:28 <ahayzen> popey, and before/after u get QML Page: Binding loop detected for property "height" 19:28 <popey> oof. is there a bug filed for it? 19:28 <ahayzen> erm don't think so... 19:28 <ahayzen> i'll add one if there isn't 19:29 <ahayzen> it was in the comment of a merge proposal i think 19:29 <ahayzen> but was found to be in the main branch before the merge 19:29 <popey> feel free to ping me the bug and I'll try and reproduce it on the device here 19:30 <ahayzen> me and Victor have both looked at it and can't figure it out.... we both came to the conclusion it is SDK related 19:30 <ahayzen> (although we could be wrong) 19:30 <popey> sooner we get a bug the sooner we can poke the sdk guys with it ☻ 19:31 <ahayzen> ok i'll add a bug and ping it over to u ;) 19:31 <popey> yay 19:31 <popey> thanks 19:32 <popey> cant wait to see some of the awesome design stuff turned into reality! 19:32 <popey> anything else to discuss? 19:32 <daniel-holm> Same here! 19:32 <ahayzen> same :) 19:33 <ahayzen> do we have an ETA for the announcement? or we not allowed to say? 19:33 <popey> hmm, good question, i don't know actually 19:34 <popey> i dont think the lack of announcement should block you though 19:34 <ahayzen> cause we can only do so much without pushing to LP 19:34 <popey> feel free to push! 19:34 <daniel-holm> Really? 19:34 <popey> yup 19:34 <ahayzen> i thought we were supposed to hold off before the design post? 19:35 <popey> hm 19:35 <popey> did i misunderstand that then? 19:35 <daniel-holm> Alright then. I've been waiting on ann befire start pushing 19:35 <ahayzen> (thts wht we were previously told) 19:35 <popey> i dont think that was said today in the design meeting 19:35 <ahayzen> they said 'prototypes' ? 19:35 <ahayzen> which we could then show to them/each other i guess? 19:35 <popey> hmm 19:35 <daniel-holm> No, but in the first showoff of the new stuff, right? 19:36 <popey> its going to be difficult building this without you guys being able to push 19:36 <popey> mhall119: opinions sought! 19:36 <ahayzen> it said 'Strictly confidential' in the video 19:36 <popey> oh sure, don't show the video or doc, or screenshots 19:36 <popey> problem is as soon as you push, various blogs will pick it up 19:37 <daniel-holm> Precisely 19:37 <ahayzen> hehe ... did i tell u they have bots? 19:37 <ahayzen> (or heard tht they do) 19:37 <daniel-holm> What? 19:37 <popey> launchpad has rss feeds, its not hard to find this stuff ☻ 19:37 <ahayzen> they watch the bzr commits... and then have keywords etc tht rank them 19:38 <popey> ok, well, given it's friday night I can't get a definitive answer until monday 19:38 <popey> so hold off until I get that 19:38 <ahayzen> ok np 19:38 <popey> sorry guys 19:38 <ahayzen> i think we need to have a technical meeting anyways 19:38 <ahayzen> we need to choose who it doing wht and how it is going to work etc 19:38 <popey> well, you could certainly discuss that over private mail 19:39 <popey> or maybe setup #ubuntu-touch-music or something, and discuss there 19:39 <ahayzen> yeah we talk in GTalk sometimes :) 19:39 <popey> sweet 19:39 <popey> whatever works best for you 19:39 <ahayzen> (or hangouts or whtever its called these days) 19:39 <daniel-holm> Haha 19:39 <daniel-holm> We fix :-) 19:40 <popey> sweet 19:40 <ahayzen> popey, i think thts all from me :) ... i send u the bug # when i've done it 19:40 <popey> great, thanks 19:40 <popey> ok, lets wrap 19:40 <popey> have a great weekend chaps! 19:41 <daniel-holm> Take care 19:41 <popey> #endmeeting