21:05 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch Docviewer app meeting
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21:05 <popey> some links!
21:06 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-docviewer-development
21:06 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-docviewer-app/+bugs?orderby=-id&start=0
21:06 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-docviewer-dev/ubuntu-docviewer-app/trunk/+activereviews
21:06 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/
21:06 <popey> how are you Chocanto ?
21:06 <Chocanto> good and you popey ? :)
21:06 <popey> Warm!
21:08 <popey> Chocanto: so how is the docviewer going?
21:08 <Chocanto> popey: Good :) Slowly but good ^^
21:10 <Chocanto> popey: I'm waiting for the poppler team to see if they can do a package. Meanwhile i'm working on the pdf viewer
21:11 <popey> ah cool
21:11 <popey> we've hit the end of month-3 milestone
21:12 <Chocanto> popey: Already ? Ouch :/
21:12 <popey> we need to bump the work items from month-3 to month-4
21:12 <popey> yeah, time flies! :D
21:13 <Chocanto> popey: Yes, not all work items :)
21:15 <popey> ok.
21:16 <Chocanto> popey: The app still should be dogfoodable for the end of july ? :)
21:17 <popey> So, about that.
21:18 <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/CoreApps/Dogfooding#Document_Viewer
21:18 <Chocanto> popey: yes :)
21:18 <popey> the key things are pdf related of course
21:19 <Chocanto> popey: Yes but... they are done. But not availlable because of the package problem ^^
21:19 <popey> indeed
21:21 <Chocanto> For the "Forward/back pages on PDF. ", for now I use a simple list so all pages can be seen without aving to use a forward/back button. It's good ?
21:21 <popey> Not sure I understand
21:22 <Chocanto> Hum yes, sorry ^^'
21:23 <Chocanto> How to explain... the work item say that we need to forward/back pages. But I do like evince do, you have to scroll to see the next/previous page
21:24 <popey> So the way I see it there's a number of ways to do this.
21:25 <popey> you can split the screen like evince does, and have a preview on the left with the main view on the right
21:25 <popey> but a phone doesn't have enough room for that
21:25 <Chocanto> popey: I want to use the pinch to display the preview
21:25 <popey> So it makes more sense to take finger swipe events up and down to scroll like a large web page would..
21:25 <popey> .. but also have the ability to flip pages in the same way a nook does, just tap a specific region of the screen
21:26 <popey> tap the bottom right corner pages down
21:26 <Chocanto> yes, that is exactly how it work right now :) Like a webpage
21:26 <popey> tap the top right, pages up
21:26 <Chocanto> Yes.. maybe we can let the user choose how to display the document ?
21:27 <popey> I am not sure there's a choice to make?
21:27 <popey> all three could would togther, swipe, tap, pinch
21:27 <popey> they all do different things, but all could work together
21:28 <Chocanto> Yes, but actually it work downward (like a web page), but maybe user want it to work left to right (like a book)
21:28 <popey> oh i see
21:28 <popey> Yes, that could be an option
21:29 <Chocanto> But you are right, all three can be implemented :)
21:30 <Chocanto> I had the idea to display all minatures of pages of the document by a pinch gesture
21:30 <Chocanto> A "zoom out" to be precise
21:31 <popey> I see
21:31 <popey> Is that something you think you're able to achieve?
21:31 <Chocanto> It will be difficult but with time yes
21:32 <popey> I'd recommend breaking up the work into some work items and adding them to the blueprint, assigning yourself
21:33 <Chocanto> popey: Yes you are right
21:34 <popey> Ok. can you update the blueprint please?
21:35 * balloons jumps in
21:35 <popey> her we go!
21:36 <popey> ☻
21:36 <Chocanto> popey: Yes ! :)
21:36 <popey> thanks Chocanto
21:37 <balloons> Chocanto, so your the last app to be featured for testing :-)
21:37 <Chocanto> balloons: Yes :/
21:38 <balloons> I wanted to get your thoughts on what could be tested now, how things are looking etc.. I've got the article written up today, but not yet published :-)
21:38 <balloons> Is it a good time to dive in?
21:39 <Chocanto> balloons: I wanted the pdf module to be tested buuuuut we are waiting the poppler package so everyone will can test it
21:40 <balloons> Chocanto, so is it fair to say we should hold off still? I know the hack day is coming up and I figured stuff will land as part of that as well
21:40 <Chocanto> balloons: Without this package people will have to compile/install the dev version of poppler, then compile/install the poppler qml plugin, and then... it will be ok ^^
21:40 <balloons> heh.. :-(
21:42 <Chocanto> balloons: yes... I'm really annoyed that again a thing like this is blocking the dev of the app...
21:42 <Chocanto> balloons: People can still test the text and the image viewer
21:42 <balloons> Chocanto, ok, so I will hold off on announcing anything surrounding testing then
21:42 <popey> who have you spoken to about poppler?
21:44 <Chocanto> popey: I spoken to the debian maintainer of the poppler package... But didn't got a good reception, so mhall will talk with tsdelios
21:44 <Chocanto> balloons: When will be the hack day ?
21:46 <popey> 22nd july
21:46 <popey> monday
21:47 <mhall119> Chocanto: the debian maintainer didn't want to make pre-release packages?
21:47 <Chocanto> *sigh* ok.. if tomorrow I don't have more news from him I'll do the package myself then send it to the ubuntu touch core apps ppa
21:48 <Chocanto> mhall119: I think not.. He said me that he is waiting for the realse of poppler and don't want to make an unstable package..
21:49 <mhall119> Chocanto: understandable, that's what they care about
21:49 <mhall119> Chocanto: I just emails tsdgeos to see if we can get a package in our PPA until then
21:49 <Chocanto> mhall119: Thank you :)
21:50 <Chocanto> Because the plugin is ready
21:51 <Chocanto> and the pdf component work
21:51 <Chocanto> it would be really nice if we can get an hackday and a test day with it !
21:53 <popey> Ok.
21:54 <popey> Anything else Chocanto ?
21:54 <Chocanto> popey: Nop :) (it was a long meeting ^^)
21:55 <popey> Ok, lets wrap up then.
21:55 <popey> #endmeeting