19:01 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch RSS Reader app meeting
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19:01 <popey> Some links...
19:01 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-rssreader-development
19:01 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+bugs
19:01 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-rssreader-app/+activereviews
19:02 <popey> burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/
19:02 <popey> how are you mrqtros ?
19:02 <dragly> hi
19:02 <mrqtros> Michael, I was busy all this week
19:02 <mrqtros> I am finishing my university
19:03 <popey> Summer holidays coming ☻
19:03 <mrqtros> Tomorrow last student day :)
19:03 <popey> yay!
19:03 <dragly> :)
19:03 <mrqtros> So after this weekend I am planning to work hard on our project
19:03 <dragly> great!
19:04 <popey> Excellent news!
19:04 <popey> Did you guys get a mail from jono?
19:04 <popey> about dogfooding?
19:04 <mrqtros> Lisette shown good mockups, exactly what I wanted all the time
19:04 <mrqtros> Concrete actions with UI controls from toolkit
19:04 <dragly> I started working on the shorts view. not much yet, but its a start.
19:04 <popey> Yeah. Lisette has been working hard
19:05 <dragly> Absolutely! The desighn is coming along great.
19:05 <mrqtros> Somebody can explain, what "dogfooding" means? )
19:05 <popey> Sure
19:05 <popey> There's a wikipedia page about it, it has a history.
19:05 <popey> It basically means using the device for real as your main phone
19:05 <dragly> I dont think I'll make tomorrow's meeting, though
19:05 <popey> no worries dragly
19:06 <mrqtros> I am too :((( I will receive my diploma tomorrow exactly same time as meeting
19:06 <dragly> Congratulations on your diploma!
19:06 <mrqtros> but Joey always come on meeting, am I right?
19:06 <mrqtros> Thanks!
19:06 <popey> Oh congratulations.
19:06 <popey> Yes, Joey will probably be there.
19:06 <mrqtros> ;)
19:07 <popey> Excellent news, and a good excuse for not being at the meeting ☻
19:08 <mrqtros> :) It's just tradition, but very ... how to say in English ... memorable day :)
19:08 <popey> yes.
19:08 <popey> So really we need to be looking to make the RSS reader usable on a daily basis.
19:08 <dragly> I wish I had a device I could use for dog food. I'm thinking about flashing my tablet, but i need it for Android development too. there's no dual boot yet, right?
19:08 <mrqtros> What a lyric meeting! :)))
19:08 <popey> dragly: which tablet?
19:08 <dragly> Transformer TF300T
19:08 <dragly> Asus
19:08 <popey> Ah, I don't know about that device.
19:08 <popey> I wish we could ship devices to everyone, sadly we can't
19:09 <popey> However we are looking to have some "hackdays" coming up
19:09 <dragly> it's not supported, but someone seems to have been able to flash it. don't know about dual boot though.
19:09 <popey> to try and get more people involved.
19:09 <dragly> cool
19:10 <popey> So my question for you guys.. is the blueprint accurate?
19:10 <popey> Are there any tasks which we don't have listed which you're thinking of working on?
19:11 <mrqtros> I think last record is bad, about OPML
19:11 <dragly> Have we assigned anyone to do the implementation of the new design features, or are we just doing that as we go?
19:11 <popey> not yet dragly, and we will need to break that down I think, once we have them all.
19:11 <dragly> Sounds like a good idea.
19:11 <popey> we need separate items for each part.
19:11 <mrqtros> Of course)
19:12 <popey> So can you guys take look at the blueprint and review the items please.
19:12 <mrqtros> Give me some time - I will review new features at the beginning of next week and will take some of them as concrete tasks :)
19:13 <popey> Great!
19:14 <mrqtros> And let me clear some facts - do we have only three active members in developer team? Without mentors of course?
19:15 <dragly> I'm currently on my mobile, so I have to look at them later too. sorry about that.
19:15 <popey> 3 active members, yes.
19:15 <mrqtros> Are fcrochik and nejc-pintar out of business?
19:16 <popey> they've not been active, no
19:17 <mrqtros> Ok
19:17 <popey> Some team have one person ☻
19:17 <mrqtros> =)
19:18 <popey> Any questions or issues?
19:18 <mrqtros> So our plan is focusing on new features, develop UI for them, while our database part already supports all operations?
19:18 <popey> oh, you mentioned OPML..
19:19 <popey> Not sure how we do that, perhaps there's some code we can borrow from somewhere to do the OPML import/export?
19:20 <mrqtros> let's think about it later, not critical task :)
19:20 <popey> it's simple xml I believe?
19:20 <popey> indeed
19:20 <mrqtros> Yep, XML that contains some data about feeds
19:20 <popey> just looking forward to the day I can import this bad boy...
19:20 <popey> -rw-rw-r-- 1 alan alan 51462 Jun 24 10:33 subscriptions.opml
19:21 <mrqtros> For cross reader's communications or something like that
19:21 <popey> for people coming from an existing reader
19:21 <popey> I imagine there's a fair few people who exported their OPML from Google Reader for example
19:21 <popey> but yes, that's a "nice to have" in the future.
19:22 <popey> Ok, so lets see what we get from design tomorrow, and we should take another look at the work items afterwards.
19:22 <popey> if there's nothing else lets wrap up
19:22 <mrqtros> Ok, sounds tactically :)
19:22 <popey> I'm really looking forward to reading my news on the phone!
19:23 <dragly> me too
19:24 <mrqtros> Cool :) But WebView is bad for looking content :(
19:24 <popey> I'm sure we can make it look awesome, i have faith
19:24 <mrqtros> Qt 5.1 fixes bug in Text, anybody know?
19:24 <popey> sorry, I don't understand?
19:24 <dragly> yeah, I'll try to experiment some more with webview and see if anything changed in 5.1
19:25 <popey> add a task ☻
19:25 <mrqtros> QML Text item can't display html
19:25 <mrqtros> correctly
19:25 <mrqtros> Images are broken
19:25 <dragly> there's a bug that makes the qml t text element fail to render img tags correctly
19:28 <dragly> i have to go now, but i think we can manage to make web view behave somehow
19:28 <mrqtros> Guys :) Last question - in short dogfooding means that we must test our product in our everyday life? :)
19:29 <mrqtros> dragly ok, we will find some solution, of course ;)
19:29 <popey> Well, it's not that _we_ have to
19:29 <popey> _someone_ should.
19:30 <popey> So the goal is to have it ready for dogfooding by the end of the month
19:30 <popey> so _anyone_ could install the app on their device and use it day to day.
19:30 <dragly> alright guys, thanks for now. bye
19:30 <popey> ok. Thanks
19:31 <mrqtros> Good bye! :)
19:31 <popey> ok, good luck tomorror mrqtros
19:31 <popey> *tomorrow
19:31 <popey> hope it goes well ☻
19:31 <mrqtros> Big thanks! ;)
19:31 <popey> see you next week
19:31 <popey> #endmeeting