19:32 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch Clock app meeting
19:32 <meetingology> Meeting started Fri May 31 19:32:34 2013 UTC.  The chair is popey. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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19:32 <popey> yeah, nice to be back
19:32 <popey> (am away again next week though) ☻
19:32 <nik90> oh
19:32 <popey> blueprint: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-commons/+spec/initial-clock-development
19:33 <popey> bugs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bugs
19:33 <popey> reviews: https://code.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+activereviews
19:33 <popey> how are things?
19:33 <nik90> I wanted to ask..do you face the performance issues on the nexus 4 or 7 with the latest build?
19:33 <popey> both
19:33 <mhall119> month-2 burndown: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-clock-dev-coreapps-13.10-month-2.html
19:33 <popey> to a greater degree on the nexus 7
19:34 <popey> did you see the video?
19:34 <nik90> which video?
19:34 <popey> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuE9R81ex-Q
19:34 <mhall119> nik90: it ticks off about 45 seconds in each actual minute
19:35 <nik90> ok
19:35 <mhall119> like each second tick takes about 1.25 seconds
19:36 <nik90> me and renato_ have been cleaning up code before we start working on the performance improvement.
19:36 <nik90> to be honest, I might need someone to review the code to see where the bottleneck is
19:37 <nik90> We have disabled some animations and hoping to see an improvement but from the video doesnt seem to have improved it at all..
19:37 <mhall119> nik90: is it just updating itself once a second, or is it calculating the time-since-start once a second?
19:38 <mhall119> looks like it's incrementing on a timer
19:38 * nik90 looks at code
19:38 <mhall119> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-clock-dev/ubuntu-clock-app/trunk/view/head:/stopwatch/AnalogStopwatch.qml#L76
19:39 <mhall119> so instead of incrementing decimalsTotal when the Timer is triggered, it should be calculating currentTime - startTime to see how many seconds *actually* passed
19:39 <nik90> ok basically it keeps track of a variable called decimalsTotal which is updated 100 ms
19:39 <mhall119> since the timer doesn't guarantee accuracy
19:39 <nik90> yeah
19:39 <mhall119> so it may be 100ms, or it may be 120ms
19:40 <nik90> mhall119: I can try that approach this weekend to see if it improves the situation
19:40 <mhall119> nik90: cool, it should work better
19:41 <nik90> mhall119, popey: Do you test the timer on the devices?
19:41 <nik90> since it uses a similar code logic
19:41 <popey> nope, but I can ☻
19:41 <nik90> popey: please do. Then it might part of a bigger problem which needs to be addressed asap
19:41 <nik90> a timer which cant keep time is useless
19:42 <popey> doing it now
19:42 <mhall119> agreed
19:42 <popey> heh, stopwatch on my iphone was still running
19:42 <nik90> hehe
19:42 <popey> 52:42:42:50
19:42 <mhall119> lol
19:42 <mhall119> nik90: I ran the timer for 30 seconds, it took about 36 seconds to complete
19:43 <mhall119> so looks like the same problem
19:43 <nik90> mhall119: ok..so issue confirmed
19:43 <nik90> will definitely look to solving it this weekend
19:43 <popey> found another bug in timer
19:44 <popey> grab the hand and pull round to 59
19:44 <popey> when you go past 59 it changes from 00:59 to 59:59
19:44 <popey> sometimes
19:45 <nik90> popey: I will try to reproduce it later. I couldnt trigger the bug now
19:46 <nik90> popey, mhall119: Do you know how to use the QtMobility package? I finally figured how to get the current location however,
19:46 <nik90> import QtMobility 2.0 gives an error
19:46 <popey> also, spin hand round fast and you have to spin multiple times to get minutes to clock over
19:46 <popey> lemme do it on video
19:46 <popey> ahem
19:47 <mhall119> yeah, I don't think it's called QtMobility anymore, they split it up in Qt5
19:47 <mhall119> nik90: did you try import QtLocation?
19:48 <nik90> popey: yeah moving the hand too fast sometimes doesnt increment the minutes. I think that is because your hand probably leaves the circle at which it doesnt accept input
19:48 <popey> not sure, possibly
19:48 <nik90> mhall119: tried import QtLocation 2.0
19:48 <nik90> doesnt work
19:48 <popey> the n7 is painfully slow
19:49 <popey> on the n4 the start button is off screen
19:49 <popey> i cant start the timer
19:50 <mhall119> nik90: do you have qtdeclarative5-qtlocation-plugin installed?
19:50 <nik90> mhall119: yes
19:50 <nik90> popey: will take a look at the positioning logic
19:51 <popey> will file a bug
19:51 <nik90> popey: awesome
19:52 <nik90> mhall119: I tried pinging florian but I think I missed the timing since it is already friday evening. Will try again on Monday.
19:52 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1186395
19:52 <mhall119> nik90: try import QtLocation 5.0
19:52 <popey> nik90: he's in brazil, so not his evening yet
19:53 <mhall119> that's what /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/qt5/qml/QtLocation/plugins.qmltypes shows
19:53 <nik90> popey: oh
19:53 <nik90> mhall119: that works :)
19:54 <mhall119> \o/
19:54 <mhall119> ok, almost out of time here
19:54 <mhall119> the month-2 burndown shows all TODO: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-clock-dev-coreapps-13.10-month-2.html
19:54 <mhall119> are any of those inprogress yet?
19:54 <mhall119> also, did you ever find where calum send the visual design?
19:54 <nik90> alrite, so 4 bugs to sort out..(lags in timer ansd stopwatch, start timer button positioning, 00:59 t0 59:59 issue)
19:55 <nik90> mhall119: I have sent the email..so waiting on the reply
19:55 <mhall119> popey: do you happen to know where he sent them?
19:55 <popey> ?
19:55 <popey> oh, yes, mail sent today
19:56 <mhall119> popey: but did he say where the designs are?
19:56 <popey> Jouni sent them via email
19:56 <nik90> popey: you might want to see the email sent by Jouni
19:56 <popey> "I've pushed the designs to ubuntu-clock-app/design."
19:56 <nik90> popey: didnt see the assets in the email nor in ubuntu-clock-app/design
19:56 <popey> hmm
19:57 <nik90> david suggested that he commited but probably forgot to push it
19:57 <popey> wonder where that went
19:58 <popey> i dont know, sorry
19:58 <nik90> no worries, I already sent a mail to jouni.
19:58 <mhall119> so we're still technically blocked on visual design
19:58 <mhall119> nik90: how about the other work items?
19:59 <nik90> I am a bit overwhelmed at the moment. I will be postponing the autopilot tests to next month
19:59 <nik90> need to first address the critical bug and also implement the visual designs
19:59 <mhall119> ok
19:59 <popey> thats fine ☻
19:59 <mhall119> nik90: FYI, found these qtlocation docs: http://qt.developpez.com/doc/5.0-snapshot/index-qtlocation-module/
19:59 <mhall119> might be helpful
19:59 <nik90> thnx
19:59 <mhall119> nik90: how is the rest of the dev team doing?
20:00 <nik90> well technically it is me, alessandro and renato
20:00 <nik90> alessandro was working on the world clock, but I havent heard much from the work done on it
20:01 <nik90> renato and me have been spending the past 2 weeks cleaning and organiszing the code base
20:01 <mhall119> ok
20:01 <nik90> renato is occupied at the moment, so I am trying to get fixes done when I can
20:02 <mhall119> that's fine, you guys are already ahead of schedule on this app
20:02 <nik90> true, but we need to meet the beta milestone
20:02 <mhall119> I expect that we'll run into some questions or blockers while implementing the visual design,but that will hopefully make it easier for the other dev teams when it's their turn
20:03 <nik90> true :-)
20:03 <nik90> anything else?
20:04 <mhall119> not from me, popey ?
20:05 <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1186396
20:05 <popey> sorry, new bug
20:05 <popey> but new blurry video which is good
20:05 <nik90> ok
20:05 <popey> nothing else
20:06 <popey> Thanks for coming to the hangout yesterday, realise it was difficult as you were at Uni
20:06 <popey> much appreciated
20:06 <nik90> was awkward but couldnt miss the visual designs :)
20:06 <popey> ☻
20:07 <popey> did you get them via the dropbox links?
20:07 <nik90> I got 1 video and 4 pics
20:07 <nik90> I missed the other video link.
20:07 <popey> well, we can wait for the reply to your mail for the "official" ones
20:07 <nik90> yeah exactly
20:07 <popey> ok, nothing more from me..
20:07 <nik90> alrite then
20:07 <nik90> bye mhall119, popey
20:07 <popey> i was waiting for mhall119 to endmeeting then realised I started it
20:07 <popey> #endmeeting