17:01:54 <popey> #startmeeting Ubuntu Touch Calculator app meeting
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17:02:10 <popey> welcome!
17:02:13 <daliusd> Hi
17:02:22 <rferrazz> hi dalius
17:02:22 <WebbyIT> Hello
17:02:30 <popey> some good news for you.. we're looking to put the calculator app in the Ubuntu Touch preview image today
17:02:39 <popey> so it should be in the automatic builds which get made overnight
17:02:46 <rferrazz> nice!
17:02:49 <popey> this should get it a lot more testing
17:02:54 <popey> (and possibly bug reports) :D
17:02:56 <daliusd> Great :)
17:03:06 <WebbyIT> Good news :)
17:04:00 <popey> also, mhall119 has some information for you..
17:05:16 <mhall119> right, just hit publish actually
17:05:17 <mhall119> http://mhall119.com/2013/04/core-apps-road-to-october/
17:05:32 <mhall119> we now have progress tracking on status.ubuntu.com for all of the core apps
17:05:41 <mhall119> the charts are built based on your work items in the blueprints
17:06:25 <rferrazz> good!
17:06:29 <mhall119> so as you start a work item, mark it as INPROGRESS, and when you finish it mark it as DONE, and the chart will automatically update
17:06:46 <mhall119> the black line shows what the average progress should be in order to reach out goal
17:07:17 <mhall119> ideally, everything above that line will be green, showing that we're finishing enough work items that we can get them done by October
17:07:44 <mhall119> read the rest of the blog post for more information about the different charts available
17:08:03 <mhall119> but again, make sure to keep the BP updated, so we can all see your progress
17:08:04 <popey> great, thanks mhall119, any questions about that?
17:08:59 * daliusd has no questions
17:09:06 <mhall119> so, for calculator app, month-0 milestone, this is what we have: http://status.ubuntu.com/coreapps-13.10/ubuntu-calculator-dev-coreapps-13.10-month-0.html
17:09:33 <boiko> hi guys, sorry I'm late
17:09:52 <daliusd> hi boiko
17:09:55 <mhall119> hi boiko
17:10:20 <popey> np boiko the meeting is logged so you can catch up after
17:10:33 <boiko> is it finished already? :-O
17:10:51 <popey> not yet
17:11:08 <boiko> popey: ah ok, good, sorry to interrupt :)
17:11:13 <popey> np :D
17:11:21 <popey> Do you guys have any blocking issues or problems we can help with in general?
17:11:46 <rferrazz> i don't think
17:11:46 * mhall119 had 2 bugs to track down
17:11:57 <daliusd> I just noticed I have TODO item: fix animation
17:12:02 <daliusd> what's idea behind that?
17:12:17 <daliusd> [dalius-sandbox] Fix "pull to start new calculation" animation: TODO
17:12:50 <mhall119> daliusd: last meeting you (or somebody) brought up that there was some finishing work to do on making the animation look good and match design
17:13:10 <rferrazz> dalius, the animations are not playing well with the tearing formula i think
17:13:20 <daliusd> OK got it
17:13:27 <daliusd> I will look what could be done
17:13:35 <rferrazz> thanks!
17:15:24 <mhall119> so we had a call with the design team earlier today, and we should start getting visual designs next week, which will include colors and textures for the various widgets
17:15:42 <daliusd> Very good :)
17:15:43 <mhall119> but hopefully few or no layout changes, and there should be no functionality changes
17:18:50 <boiko> so, is there any specific area or topic you guys think I could help as a mentor?
17:19:39 <daliusd> boiko, I think you should look what's done and say to us what looks wrong
17:20:11 <daliusd> you can review bugs we have or have fixed - maybe that will give ideas
17:20:31 <boiko> daliusd: yep, I'll be pointing some things that could be improved, indeed, but nothing really wrong in the code so far
17:20:43 <popey> thats good to hear
17:21:05 <boiko> yes, code reviewing is something I can definitely help with
17:22:56 <WebbyIT> I've a question: for internalization, how we understand if users wants AM/PM or 24h in date-time? Are there a super-setting or similar?
17:23:31 <boiko> WebbyIT: I think in general you just use Qt.formatDate and it will take care of that
17:24:15 <boiko> err, Qt.formatDateTime actually
17:24:24 <WebbyIT> boiko: ok, thanks
17:25:01 <daliusd> boiko, I guess that does not really answer our question
17:25:33 <daliusd> I look at documentation now
17:25:52 <daliusd> We use custom format
17:26:06 <daliusd> and I'm not sure if that respects user settings by default
17:26:17 <popey> boiko: i think the question is more, how do we know if the user (in a separate settings app) has changed the date format
17:26:45 <boiko> daliusd: yes, that's something I saw in the code: the custom date formatting, but I don't think it is necessary (apart from the "Today" and this kind of stuff)
17:26:50 <boiko> popey: yep, looking it up
17:28:45 <boiko> daliusd: WebbyIT: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qlocale.html#dateFormat
17:29:02 <boiko> that's C++ though, not sure there is a QML function for that, let me see
17:29:16 <popey> we're running low on time, it's only a 30 min meeting..
17:29:49 <popey> this is an important topic though.. "Settings" in general is not solved yet I believe
17:30:10 <boiko> indeed, I don't think settings is something sorted out at system level yet
17:30:18 <daliusd> What calendar team is doing with that?
17:30:36 <rferrazz> http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qml-qtquick2-locale.html#dateFormat-method
17:31:10 <boiko> rferrazz: nice! exactly that
17:31:57 <boiko> guys, maybe we can continue the discussion on another channel? (as the meeting is time is already over)
17:32:09 <popey> #ubuntu-touch would be good
17:32:13 <rferrazz> ok!
17:32:20 <daliusd> ok
17:32:24 <boiko> popey: yep
17:32:25 <WebbyIT> ok
17:32:26 <popey> thanks boiko
17:32:47 <popey> we'll mail the list once we have a build of the phone which incorporates the calculator app as it is
17:32:59 <popey> anything else before i wrap up?
17:33:24 <boiko> nope, nothing from my side
17:33:31 <rferrazz> nothing
17:33:54 <daliusd> nothing
17:34:00 <popey> great, thanks guys!
17:34:02 <WebbyIT> nothing
17:34:11 <boiko> thanks popey!
17:34:14 <rferrazz> thank anyone!
17:34:16 <popey> keep up the great work, and keep an eye on the burndown chart! :D
17:34:20 <popey> #endmeeting