06:21 #startmeeting Ubuntu Developer Membership Board 06:21 Meeting started at 06:21:40 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 06:21 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 06:22 We are in a time of change, no more using IRC but matrix for the channal, preferring a video call over chat and much more 06:22 But until we have a proper replacement we still want to have the content in IRC logs 06:22 hence for now we are retroactively replaying the content to have logs here as well 06:22 The following is a summary of the meeting on 1st of September 06:22 #topic Review of previous action items 06:23 No open items from last meeting 06:23 #topic Application review 06:23 No application queued this week 06:23 #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign 06:23 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2025-August/thread.html 06:23 ## Desktop package set 06:23 There is an ongoing discussion [1] about adding packages to the Ubuntudesktop package set that had fallen too silentSome packages requested have wider impact, like plymouth (boot) andgeneral updates (update-manager) and so on, but the majority ofpackages requested seems fine, yet not trivial to add. 06:23 Robie Basak explained that the package set is defined by things seededby the desktopIf a package is not seeded, it is out of scopeBut there is the desktop-extra package set [2] to cover for thatYet we need a definition that makes it clear what is part of it and what not.Currently it is “Every package that is NOT in ubuntu-desktop,desktop-core or core, but needed for a vanilla GNOME.” which can meanall or nothing, what is “vanilla gnome� 06:23 which can meanall or nothing, what is “vanilla gnome” really. 06:24 Robie Basak will continue that discussion to clarify and unblock this 06:24 #action continue driving the discussion on adding packages to the Ubuntu desktop package set 06:24 * meetingology continue driving the discussion on adding packages to the Ubuntu desktop package set 06:24 ## Wiki struggles 06:24 Missed [2] that was 06:24 #link https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2025-August/002872.html 06:24 People see issues with the wiki and we would like to give people a wayto avoid them.Generally application pages are on the wiki, but that can be pain sometimes 06:25 #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/packagesets/questing/desktop-extra 06:25 We discussed and agreed that we want to allow application pages indiscourse as well.The idea is to align with how the community manages it in 06:25 #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/community/membership/93 06:25 Assuming that one day also discussions will move there, and to notpollute others, we will need an own category there 06:25 #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/project/307 06:25 We furthermore would want to have a template application, that canstart crude but evolve, so people can more easily copy and createtheirs. 06:25 #action paelzer - set up discourse category for "Ubuntu Developer Membership", create example application template there 06:25 * meetingology paelzer - set up discourse category for "Ubuntu Developer Membership", create example application template there 06:26 #topic AOB 06:26 ## Clarify expectations 06:26 We discussed the ongoing efforts to clarify our expectationsA lot was considered an improvement, but some aspects we discussed in detail.A particular topic was Expectations for MOTUs vs. Core-Devs - afterdiscussion those are actually mostly the same.This was a long discussion, but the condensed summary has been takenas a note in the PR 06:26 #link https://github.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-project-docs/pull/159#issuecomment-3242863955 06:26 #action Further Discuss and land PR to clarify expectations 06:26 * meetingology Further Discuss and land PR to clarify expectations 06:27 #topic Next Chair 06:27 Julian volunteered to drive the next session - thanks! 06:27 #endmeeting