== Meeting information == * #ubuntu-meeting: Developer Membership Board meeting, started by rbasak, 07 Jul at 19:04 — 19:36 UTC. * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2025/ubuntu-meeting.2025-07-07-19.04.log.html == Meeting summary == * ''LINK:'' https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda (lvoytek, 19:05) === Outstanding mailing list requests to assign === Discussion started by rbasak at 19:15. * ''ACTION:'' rbasak to close Alessandro's contributor developer application on the ML, since it is superseded now (rbasak, 19:22) * ''ACTION:'' rbasak and jbicha to coordinate deleting the identified defunct packagesets (rbasak, 19:22) === Open TB bugs === Discussion started by rbasak at 19:23. * (rbasak, 19:23) * There are currently no open bugs. (rbasak, 19:23) === Select a chair for the next meeting === Discussion started by rbasak at 19:23. === AOB === Discussion started by rbasak at 19:26. * ''LINK:'' https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/community/membership/93 (juliank, 19:33) == Action items, by person == * rbasak * rbasak to close Alessandro's contributor developer application on the ML, since it is superseded now * rbasak and jbicha to coordinate deleting the identified defunct packagesets == People present (lines said) == * rbasak (45) * juliank (23) * lvoytek (9) * bdrung (9) * meetingology (4) == Full log == 19:04 #startmeeting Developer Membership Board 19:04 Meeting started at 19:04:15 UTC. The chair is rbasak. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 19:04 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 19:05 The agenda items are quite old 19:05 I'm just looking into what is still relevant/actionable 19:05 Can we link to them? 19:05 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperMembershipBoard/Agenda 19:06 Ah yes 19:06 thanks lvoytek 19:06 np already had it up 19:07 I don't think any of the three sections of previous items are actionable right now 19:07 I know utkarsh2102 had an item for meeting times to discuss last time 19:08 I might just move them to an "opportunities" section rather than action items, unless anyone has any other suggestion, or would like to take any of them? 19:08 Yes but I believe today is too late for u_tkarsh2102 19:09 rbasak: +1 19:09 That's fair 19:09 +1 from me too 19:09 The "tsimonq2 to reach out to Agathe Porte" item is obsolete IMO and can be removed 19:09 Agreed 19:10 Did we announce Mate Kukri's application success? 19:10 I found an announcement in devel-permissoins@ 19:10 It doesn't seem to have been copied to ubuntu-devel@ nor to the news team 19:10 then this one is done as well 19:10 But also, I don't see Mate announcing his own application in devel-permissions@ 19:11 So I was just going to let that one slide. 19:11 heh 19:13 bdrung: ? 19:13 bdrung: are you happy to move the rest into an "opportunities" section? 19:15 #topic Outstanding mailing list requests to assign 19:15 * bdrung checking 19:16 I see https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2025-June/002842.html 19:16 And https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/devel-permissions/2025-June/002845.html, which languished previously 19:16 rbasak, I am happy to move the rest into an "opportunities" section. 19:16 Thanks! 19:18 Alessandro's request is indeed superseded now with this addition to ~ubuntu-desktop 19:18 I guess I can just email the list to close that thread? 19:18 "Cleanup of obsolete packagesets" is outstanding 19:18 +1 on the package set cleanup 19:18 The request to cleanup of obsolete packagesets sound sensible to me. +1 19:18 These all seem like no-brainers 19:18 agreed 19:19 I think this probably requires the TB to action 19:19 So I think it'll need to be me :-/ 19:20 jbicha: around? 19:20 I mean you can file a techboard bug and let someone else deal with it :) 19:20 I wonder if we can coordinate for you to be around to help deal with any fallout when I delete these packagesets, please? 19:21 rbasak: jbicha is travelling to debconf i believe 19:21 Ah, OK. 19:21 So let's agree that we're doing this, but I'll coordinate with jbicha when he's available. 19:22 I think that's all the outstanding ML activity 19:22 cool 19:22 Does anyone see anything else? 19:22 #action rbasak to close Alessandro's contributor developer application on the ML, since it is superseded now 19:22 * meetingology rbasak to close Alessandro's contributor developer application on the ML, since it is superseded now 19:22 #action rbasak and jbicha to coordinate deleting the identified defunct packagesets 19:22 * meetingology rbasak and jbicha to coordinate deleting the identified defunct packagesets 19:23 #topic Open TB bugs 19:23 #info 19:23 There are currently no open bugs. 19:23 #info There are currently no open bugs. 19:23 #topic Select a chair for the next meeting 19:23 Any volunteers 19:24 ? 19:24 I'll likely miss at least part of next meeting due to debconf return travel, I'd be happy to do the one after though! 19:24 I'll be traveling back from DebConf on the day of the next meeting. 19:25 I don't quite know if I make it to DebConf but if I do I may be completely exhausted on Monday 19:26 I guess we can leave a chair unnominated then and see if the meeting happens at all. 19:26 #topic AOB 19:26 AOB? 19:26 o/ 19:26 I wonder if we want to move devel-permissions from a ML to discourse 19:28 Perhaps that should be unified with u_tkarsh's process ideas, I suspect you could file your application on discourse and then it's all neatly in one place 19:28 I'm OK with the idea in principle, but personally I'm not ready yet - I do not understand how to make that workflow work in Discourse - specifically to see a separated list of devel-permissions activity and separate unread state for messages such that they only get marked as read when I'm in "DMB mode". 19:28 What would be the benefit? 19:30 I deferred my own involvement in the ML to Discourse discussion - too much for me going on in the TB, DMB elections and change of appointment process, other action items, etc. 19:30 But I intend to take that up further when I can. 19:30 It would be nice to have, especially if candidates start doing their applications more in discourse too. Some aspects of the mailing list feel more mailing-listy than discoursey to me though 19:31 I think overall the fewer need for contributors to post on ML, the more approachable we become 19:31 but this can wait for a larger progress redesign; then we can have one thread per application say 19:32 one thread per application sounds appealing to me. 19:33 The Ubuntu Membership board is doing that apparently 19:33 #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/c/community/membership/93 19:33 The nice thing is you get the testimonials on there too and everything neatly tied together 19:34 And you can mark a topic as solved once decided 19:34 True, having those as comments is nice 19:35 So...no action for now? 19:35 I think not for now 19:36 I might check more closely what the UMB is doing and how we could potentially align more and what Utkarsh has in mind 19:36 OK. Thanks! 19:36 #endmeeting Generated by MeetBot 0.4.0 (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology)