14:32 #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status 14:32 Meeting started at 14:32:41 UTC. The chair is cpaelzer_. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 14:32 Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 14:32 Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe ) 14:33 o/ 14:33 almost everyone said hi while I was still fetchign the commands 14:33 so let us go on 14:33 #topic current component mismatches 14:33 Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams 14:33 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg 14:33 #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg 14:33 nothing entirely new 14:33 which is good given the time in the cycle 14:33 going on ... 14:34 #topic New MIRs 14:34 Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing 14:34 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:34 a few things unblocked and looked for a reviewer 14:34 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/highway/+bug/2070807 14:34 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpds-py/+bug/2072621 14:34 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linuxptp/+bug/2071717 14:34 actually 14:34 at least for the last I know this has gone back to new 14:34 due to security review being done 14:34 so let us look into what exactly those cases need 14:35 2071717 has security ack now 14:35 but I have not yet seen any response to my 2 mandatory and 5 recommended tasks 14:35 so I'd assign that to the reporter and mark incomplete 14:38 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpds-py/+bug/2072621 14:38 ack by Slyon, with conditions 14:38 security ack 14:38 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpds-py/+bug/2072621/comments/7 14:38 says 14:38 've implemented the required changes and added a bug subscriber as requested. 14:39 and exactly as james already said 14:39 slyon: would you like todo the honours from the MIR team perspective and add your final approval now that we've had a security review please! 14:39 that is the way we usually do (let the one having the request to judge) 14:39 I assigned it to slyon to represent that as he is not around today 14:40 jamespage: if that is ASAP Oracular - we might need to pick someone else to do that, let us know in that case 14:40 last 14:40 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/highway/+bug/2070807 14:40 Desktop won't be promoting jpeg-xl/highway until 25.04 cycle 14:41 thank you 14:41 I'd assign to you until all is in place then? 14:41 ok 14:42 #topic Incomplete bugs / questions 14:42 Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams 14:42 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:44 cpaelzer_: I'd like to get that in for oracular if poss - just needs someone other than me to ack the MIR :) 14:44 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lenovo-wwan-unlock/+bug/2058192 14:45 lenovo-wwan-unlock is a weird one, we don't move packages to restricted often, I'm not sure what precedents we've got to compare against 14:46 me neither 14:46 but the recent updates there are between slyon and them and I'd keep it with him for context awareness 14:46 jamespage: I've seen you , I'll have a look tomorrow 14:46 the security team really can't do much with it because it's a big binary blob, except for hoping that it's what the users would actually want. and a distro package putting things into /opt is weird, dunno about that. 14:47 architecture-properties is an ongoing discussion and was here last weeks meeting 14:47 but if that's how that hardware manufacturer has chosen to make things work, and there's no foss way to make it work, maybe it's not the end of the world to put it into restricted. 14:47 I've been part of some discusison, nothing to re-act today on architecture-properties 14:48 yes sarnold, definetly not the normal foss pockets 14:48 is there any way to at least know if they are valid 14:48 heh, as in, *test* it and see that it does what it says it does? 14:48 a blob where you at least know who it is from is a bit less evil than random-blob 14:49 no more like at least a strong chain of trust that allows e.g. the SRU team on an update to know this is not the next xz-utils but "official" 14:49 it lives on https://github.com/lenovo/lenovo-wwan-unlock -- how much do we trust that that's actually lenovo folks? 14:49 yep, questions like this is what I mean 14:50 but there are enough things open on the case that we neither can't nor should final decide right now 14:50 for progress I'd go on, ... 14:50 #topic Process/Documentation improvements 14:50 Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues 14:50 #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls 14:50 #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues 14:51 I've participated in discussions about https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues/69 14:51 the rest is even older 14:51 nothing new to act 14:51 #topic MIR related Security Review Queue 14:51 Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable? 14:51 Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place. 14:51 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:51 #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir 14:51 Internal link 14:51 - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect 14:51 - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much 14:51 #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594 14:51 I've seen things land, so thank you sarnold and friends 14:52 sarnold: linuxptp was done but stays in TODO ? 14:52 probably just an oversight 14:53 np 14:53 is the rest looking reasonable to you sarnold? 14:53 yes, the rest of it looks about like what I'd expect 14:55 great 14:55 #topic Any other business? 14:55 Would you be interested in migrating the existing MIR documentation to the newer Canonical ReadTheDocs style? 14:55 See for example, the SRU documentation (currently also gets migrated): https://canonical-sru-docs.readthedocs-hosted.com/en/latest/ 14:55 nothing from me (too busy to remember) 14:56 I'd like to kick lenovo-wwan-unlock closer to its resolution if we can 14:56 dviererbe: I was indirectly part of the SRU migration and would like that to be the same in general 14:56 dviererbe: there is a problem i see though 14:56 dviererbe: this all comes with diataxis which is nice for huge things to split by structure 14:57 dviererbe: but this will end up being a doc page looking very lonely with 2x howto (the templates) and 1x reference (the rest) 14:57 dviererbe: thereby I feel this isn't a good candidate 14:57 dviererbe: happy to be convinced, not against it just not seeing the worth in this case 14:57 dviererbe: unsure. what we've got now fits our needs nicely and I don't see a huge benefit to moving, beyond making it easier to find if that's a thing with read the docs, but it doeswn't feel like that is 14:57 dviererbe: I'd feel more like all (SRU + MIR + AA doce + ...) to converge on one "archive operations" or so 14:58 dviererbe: is that just an idea of yours or are you driving such with others? 14:58 diataxising these sounds like a lot of pain for negative gain 14:58 It's just an idea from me 14:58 in this case yes, pain no gain 14:58 I see your concers with diataxis 14:58 ok, so for now the two people speaking up say "maybe better not" 14:59 my proposal would be the mentioned level up of SRU into archive-operations docs 14:59 there it will then fit together 14:59 my intention was to bring more consistency into our documentation 14:59 a good goal :) 14:59 ack 14:59 but not at making it worse 14:59 we could write 4x more content, then it would not look awkward 14:59 but what would that be? 15:00 here is the thing 15:00 can we make it stay single-page but render in the same style? 15:00 that would work for this case 15:00 dviererbe: if you do not happen to know I can ask Sally, but you might already know 15:00 I think the idea of a combined SRU/MIR/AA doc is interesting 15:01 single page is probably okay for the TA's, but they are instructed to enforce diataxis, so they probably will say no 15:01 I'll chase that down dviererbe 15:01 ack 15:01 sarnold: you wanted to talk about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lenovo-wwan-unlock/+bug/2058192 15:01 do we have time for that? 15:02 dunno :/ 15:02 but a nudge even towards resolutions feels like it'd be nice 15:03 that is too much for me to handle right now 15:03 ack 15:03 should we try to use next meeting for just that to ahve a better chance at progress? 15:04 ah sorry, I really would want to get this closer - but I fel unable right now and so might others who have likely dropped off since we are after time :-/ 15:04 closing with a sad face instead of nice numbers 15:04 #endmeeting 15:04 aww 15:04 Thank you everyone! 15:04 thanks cpaelzer, dviererbe, all :) 15:05 #endmeeting