== Meeting information ==

 * #ubuntu-meeting: Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status meeting, started by cpaelzer, 03 Sep at 14:31 — 15:03 UTC.
 * Full logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2024/ubuntu-meeting.2024-09-03-14.31.log.html



== Meeting summary ==

=== current component mismatches ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:32.

 * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg   (cpaelzer, 14:32)
 * ''LINK:'' https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg   (cpaelzer, 14:32)
 * ''LINK:'' https://launchpadlibrarian.net/746621535/buildlog_ubuntu-oracular-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+7_BUILDING.txt.gz   (cpaelzer, 14:33)
 * ''LINK:'' https://launchpadlibrarian.net/722263410/buildlog_ubuntu-noble-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+6build2_BUILDING.txt.gz   (cpaelzer, 14:34)
 * ''LINK:'' https://launchpadlibrarian.net/592958282/buildlog_ubuntu-jammy-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+5build2_BUILDING.txt.gz   (cpaelzer, 14:34)

=== New MIRs ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:43.

 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:43)

=== Incomplete bugs / questions ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:43.

 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:43)

=== Process/Documentation improvements ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:44.

 * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls   (cpaelzer, 14:44)
 * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues   (cpaelzer, 14:44)
 * ''LINK:'' https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/66 is kind of the same for rust  (cpaelzer, 14:44)

=== MIR related Security Review Queue ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:50.

 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:50)
 * ''LINK:'' https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir   (cpaelzer, 14:50)
 * ''LINK:'' https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594   (cpaelzer, 14:50)

=== Any other business? ===

Discussion started by cpaelzer at 14:59.




== People present (lines said) ==

 * cpaelzer (101)
 * sarnold (14)
 * slyon (13)
 * jamespage (6)
 * meetingology (2)
 * jbicha (1)
 * doko (1)



== Full log ==


 14:31 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status

 14:31 <meetingology> Meeting started at 14:31:54 UTC.  The chair is cpaelzer.  Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology

 14:31 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick

 14:31 <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )

 14:32 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches

 14:32 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams

 14:32 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg

 14:32 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg

 14:32 <jamespage> o/

 14:32 <sarnold> good morning

 14:32 <cpaelzer> I've seen them a few times in recent days should be rather small

 14:32 <cpaelzer> ok, one by one

 14:32 <cpaelzer> x11-utils -> luit

 14:33 <cpaelzer> this isn't new was around for a while

 14:33 <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/746621535/buildlog_ubuntu-oracular-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+7_BUILDING.txt.gz

 14:33 <cpaelzer> Recommends: luit

 14:33 <slyon> wasn't this a split out from x11-utils? and jbicha wanted to create some papertrail to get it promoted

 14:33 <cpaelzer> Someone said so, but even the old one looks like it

 14:34 <cpaelzer> here it is from noble

 14:34 <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/722263410/buildlog_ubuntu-noble-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+6build2_BUILDING.txt.gz

 14:34 <cpaelzer> Recommends: luit

 14:34 <cpaelzer> And I do not remember it showing up that long

 14:34 <cpaelzer> Jammy had it

 14:34 <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/592958282/buildlog_ubuntu-jammy-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+5build2_BUILDING.txt.gz

 14:34 <cpaelzer> contains the luit things

 14:34 <cpaelzer> so it really is the papertrail we need

 14:35 <cpaelzer> let me spawn a stub with jbicha assigned, so we avoid rediscussing it

 14:35 <slyon> x11-utils 7.7+6 d/changelog states: "Removed luit, which is now packaged separately with a different"

 14:36 <slyon> *different upstream

 14:36 <sarnold> how did the Recommends: not show up on our radar for noble?

 14:36 <cpaelzer> That is what I wondered above

 14:37 <jbicha> luit doesn't actually exist in noble. So the recommends is ignored

 14:37 <sarnold> ahhhhhhh

 14:38 <sarnold> I wonder how many more Recommends: we've got listed that don't exist

 14:38 <cpaelzer> thanks

 14:38 <cpaelzer> many any time we do removals but decide not to adapt the recommends

 14:39 <cpaelzer> until then, here a stub https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/luit/+bug/2078827

 14:39 <cpaelzer> dkms -> gcc-13

 14:39 <cpaelzer> Noble had both in main

 14:40 <cpaelzer> oracular is gcc-14 only

 14:40 <cpaelzer> probably for doko and or foundations?

 14:40 <slyon> solved in dkms 3.0.11-1ubuntu14 (in -proposed)

 14:40 <cpaelzer> or does anyone think this has a strong dkms background that is needed?

 14:40 <slyon> it still needs to migrate, though

 14:40 <cpaelzer> I see

 14:40 <cpaelzer> thanks

 14:40 <cpaelzer> referencin -> rpds-py

 14:41 <cpaelzer> that is related to the many python dependencies jamespage resolved

 14:41 <cpaelzer> a few comments were in #ubuntu-release

 14:41 <cpaelzer> is on security AFAICS in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpds-py/+bug/2072621

 14:41 <jamespage> thanks slyon for the extra review

 14:41 <cpaelzer> the needs of slyon were addressed

 14:42 <slyon> yes, pending security review. (mostly due to tracking the vendored Rust dependencies). otherwise MIR ACK

 14:42 <cpaelzer> we'll get to ask about the state of the sec queue later in  the agenda

 14:42 <cpaelzer> and last https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/retry/+bug/2076381 being assigned to joalif already

 14:42 <cpaelzer> done with this section

 14:42 <cpaelzer> that was more than I expected

 14:42 <cpaelzer> but mostly clarifying things already in motion

 14:43 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs

 14:43 <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing

 14:43 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:43 <cpaelzer> this is a good list of TODOs - none

 14:43 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions

 14:43 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams

 14:43 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:43 <cpaelzer> now luit is there due to my stub

 14:44 <cpaelzer> all others are much older

 14:44 <cpaelzer> or resolved already

 14:44 <cpaelzer> going on ...

 14:44 <cpaelzer> #topic Process/Documentation improvements

 14:44 <cpaelzer> Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues

 14:44 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls

 14:44 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues

 14:44 <cpaelzer> FYI I've landed the one that was discussed and acked last time

 14:44 <cpaelzer> https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/66 is kind of the same for rust

 14:45 <cpaelzer> BTW on the old wiki page we pulled in last time I made it an auto-referral to the new page

 14:45 <slyon> thanks, I saw that!

 14:45 <sarnold> oo nice

 14:45 <cpaelzer> The PR is still waiting on the rusty people to like it

 14:46 <doko> dkms probably needs active pings to the kernel team to address the autopkg test failures

 14:46 <slyon> Yeah, it's not urgent. I guess we can just let it sit there and people can give their comments/reviews on GitHub asynchronously.

 14:46 <cpaelzer> ack to what slyon said for that PR

 14:46 <cpaelzer> thank doko

 14:47 <cpaelzer> since https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/3.0.11-1ubuntu14 is uploaded by timo let us ping him, but TBH IIRC kernel says dkms always is slow due to the tests

 14:47 <cpaelzer> so this might be normal

 14:47 <cpaelzer> yet for awareness I'll ping

 14:49 <cpaelzer> done in #ubuntu-release

 14:50 <cpaelzer> nothing else in this category

 14:50 <cpaelzer> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue

 14:50 <cpaelzer> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?

 14:50 <cpaelzer> Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.

 14:50 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:50 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir

 14:50 <cpaelzer> Internal link

 14:50 <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect

 14:50 <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much

 14:50 <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594

 14:51 <cpaelzer> sarnold: now it is the time to talk about rpds-py and others in there

 14:51 <sarnold> onboarding some help has started, but not much velocity on anything yet

 14:51 <cpaelzer> how are thing going, you mentioned you had some to train about the process

 14:52 <cpaelzer> 13 days to beta freeze

 14:52 <sarnold> thanks to the tyranny of timezones i don' thave much overlap with the new folks

 14:52 <sarnold> zounds

 14:52 <cpaelzer> which of your board entries do you think will complete in time for that

 14:53 <cpaelzer> sarnold: ^^

 14:54 <sarnold> xdg-terminal-exec has started, that one feels likely to finish; fdk-aac-free was pretty far along near the end of the last cycle, probably we can come to a conclusion on that one, too

 14:55 <sarnold> (we wanted to discuss an issue with upstream, i'm not sure how far along that one has gone)

 14:56 <sarnold> everything else is at risk, I think

 14:56 <cpaelzer> :-/

 14:56 <cpaelzer> jamespage: if your new case is very asap I think you need to coordinate with sarnold how to escalate

 14:57 <cpaelzer> just saying as I assume this might be part of that whole transition you worked on

 14:58 <jamespage> oddly they are not directly linked

 14:58 <cpaelzer> wow

 14:58 <jamespage> rpds-py does replace a pydantic dep

 14:58 <cpaelzer> then sorry for connecting the wrong dots

 14:59 <cpaelzer> thanks, good to know

 14:59 <jamespage> but the release of pydantic was due to inflect dropping it

 14:59 <jamespage> I had it in my head that was as well but digging about today its not

 14:59 <cpaelzer> ok

 14:59 <cpaelzer> welll

 14:59 <cpaelzer> that means it is time for

 14:59 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?

 15:00 <sarnold> none here

 15:00 <cpaelzer> neither from me other than time pressure

 15:00 <cpaelzer> :-)

 15:00 <slyon> cpaelzer: wrt rustc-1.76: rmadison tells me:

 15:00 <slyon> rustc-1.76 | 1.76.0+dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1            | oracular                | source

 15:00 <slyon> rustc-1.76 | 1.76.0+dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1            | oracular/universe       | amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x

 15:00 <sarnold> 360s oy vey

 15:00 <slyon> source still seems to be in main, can you do something about it?

 15:00 <cpaelzer> I can slyon

 15:00 <slyon> thx, nothing else from my side :)

 15:03 <cpaelzer> done slyon

 15:03 <cpaelzer> ok that is all

 15:03 <cpaelzer> see you all

 15:03 <cpaelzer> thanks!

 15:03 <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)

 15:03 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting



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