14:31 <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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14:31 <cpaelzer> Ping for MIR meeting - didrocks joalif slyon sarnold cpaelzer jamespage ( eslerm dviererbe )
14:32 <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
14:32 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
14:32 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
14:32 <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
14:32 <jamespage> o/
14:32 <sarnold> good morning
14:32 <cpaelzer> I've seen them a few times in recent days should be rather small
14:32 <cpaelzer> ok, one by one
14:32 <cpaelzer> x11-utils -> luit
14:33 <cpaelzer> this isn't new was around for a while
14:33 <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/746621535/buildlog_ubuntu-oracular-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+7_BUILDING.txt.gz
14:33 <cpaelzer> Recommends: luit
14:33 <slyon> wasn't this a split out from x11-utils? and jbicha wanted to create some papertrail to get it promoted
14:33 <cpaelzer> Someone said so, but even the old one looks like it
14:34 <cpaelzer> here it is from noble
14:34 <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/722263410/buildlog_ubuntu-noble-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+6build2_BUILDING.txt.gz
14:34 <cpaelzer> Recommends: luit
14:34 <cpaelzer> And I do not remember it showing up that long
14:34 <cpaelzer> Jammy had it
14:34 <cpaelzer> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/592958282/buildlog_ubuntu-jammy-amd64.x11-utils_7.7+5build2_BUILDING.txt.gz
14:34 <cpaelzer> contains the luit things
14:34 <cpaelzer> so it really is the papertrail we need
14:35 <cpaelzer> let me spawn a stub with jbicha assigned, so we avoid rediscussing it
14:35 <slyon> x11-utils 7.7+6 d/changelog states: "Removed luit, which is now packaged separately with a different"
14:36 <slyon> *different upstream
14:36 <sarnold> how did the Recommends: not show up on our radar for noble?
14:36 <cpaelzer> That is what I wondered above
14:37 <jbicha> luit doesn't actually exist in noble. So the recommends is ignored
14:37 <sarnold> ahhhhhhh
14:38 <sarnold> I wonder how many more Recommends: we've got listed that don't exist
14:38 <cpaelzer> thanks
14:38 <cpaelzer> many any time we do removals but decide not to adapt the recommends
14:39 <cpaelzer> until then, here a stub https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/luit/+bug/2078827
14:39 <cpaelzer> dkms -> gcc-13
14:39 <cpaelzer> Noble had both in main
14:40 <cpaelzer> oracular is gcc-14 only
14:40 <cpaelzer> probably for doko and or foundations?
14:40 <slyon> solved in dkms 3.0.11-1ubuntu14 (in -proposed)
14:40 <cpaelzer> or does anyone think this has a strong dkms background that is needed?
14:40 <slyon> it still needs to migrate, though
14:40 <cpaelzer> I see
14:40 <cpaelzer> thanks
14:40 <cpaelzer> referencin -> rpds-py
14:41 <cpaelzer> that is related to the many python dependencies jamespage resolved
14:41 <cpaelzer> a few comments were in #ubuntu-release
14:41 <cpaelzer> is on security AFAICS in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rpds-py/+bug/2072621
14:41 <jamespage> thanks slyon for the extra review
14:41 <cpaelzer> the needs of slyon were addressed
14:42 <slyon> yes, pending security review. (mostly due to tracking the vendored Rust dependencies). otherwise MIR ACK
14:42 <cpaelzer> we'll get to ask about the state of the sec queue later in  the agenda
14:42 <cpaelzer> and last https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/retry/+bug/2076381 being assigned to joalif already
14:42 <cpaelzer> done with this section
14:42 <cpaelzer> that was more than I expected
14:42 <cpaelzer> but mostly clarifying things already in motion
14:43 <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
14:43 <cpaelzer> Mission: ensure to assign all incoming reviews for fast processing
14:43 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:43 <cpaelzer> this is a good list of TODOs - none
14:43 <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
14:43 <cpaelzer> Mission: Identify required actions and spread the load among the teams
14:43 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:43 <cpaelzer> now luit is there due to my stub
14:44 <cpaelzer> all others are much older
14:44 <cpaelzer> or resolved already
14:44 <cpaelzer> going on ...
14:44 <cpaelzer> #topic Process/Documentation improvements
14:44 <cpaelzer> Mission: Review pending process/documentation pull-requests or issues
14:44 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pulls
14:44 <cpaelzer> #link https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/issues
14:44 <cpaelzer> FYI I've landed the one that was discussed and acked last time
14:44 <cpaelzer> https://github.com/canonical/ubuntu-mir/pull/66 is kind of the same for rust
14:45 <cpaelzer> BTW on the old wiki page we pulled in last time I made it an auto-referral to the new page
14:45 <slyon> thanks, I saw that!
14:45 <sarnold> oo nice
14:45 <cpaelzer> The PR is still waiting on the rusty people to like it
14:46 <doko> dkms probably needs active pings to the kernel team to address the autopkg test failures
14:46 <slyon> Yeah, it's not urgent. I guess we can just let it sit there and people can give their comments/reviews on GitHub asynchronously.
14:46 <cpaelzer> ack to what slyon said for that PR
14:46 <cpaelzer> thank doko
14:47 <cpaelzer> since https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/3.0.11-1ubuntu14 is uploaded by timo let us ping him, but TBH IIRC kernel says dkms always is slow due to the tests
14:47 <cpaelzer> so this might be normal
14:47 <cpaelzer> yet for awareness I'll ping
14:49 <cpaelzer> done in #ubuntu-release
14:50 <cpaelzer> nothing else in this category
14:50 <cpaelzer> #topic MIR related Security Review Queue
14:50 <cpaelzer> Mission: Check on progress, do deadlines seem doable?
14:50 <cpaelzer> Some clients can only work with one, some with the other escaping - the URLs point to the same place.
14:50 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=%5BMIR%5D&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:50 <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+bugs?field.searchtext=[MIR]&assignee_option=choose&field.assignee=ubuntu-security&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
14:50 <cpaelzer> Internal link
14:50 <cpaelzer> - ensure your teams items are prioritized among each other as you'd expect
14:50 <cpaelzer> - ensure community requests do not get stomped by teams calling for favors too much
14:50 <cpaelzer> #link https://warthogs.atlassian.net/jira/software/c/projects/SEC/boards/594
14:51 <cpaelzer> sarnold: now it is the time to talk about rpds-py and others in there
14:51 <sarnold> onboarding some help has started, but not much velocity on anything yet
14:51 <cpaelzer> how are thing going, you mentioned you had some to train about the process
14:52 <cpaelzer> 13 days to beta freeze
14:52 <sarnold> thanks to the tyranny of timezones i don' thave much overlap with the new folks
14:52 <sarnold> zounds
14:52 <cpaelzer> which of your board entries do you think will complete in time for that
14:53 <cpaelzer> sarnold: ^^
14:54 <sarnold> xdg-terminal-exec has started, that one feels likely to finish; fdk-aac-free was pretty far along near the end of the last cycle, probably we can come to a conclusion on that one, too
14:55 <sarnold> (we wanted to discuss an issue with upstream, i'm not sure how far along that one has gone)
14:56 <sarnold> everything else is at risk, I think
14:56 <cpaelzer> :-/
14:56 <cpaelzer> jamespage: if your new case is very asap I think you need to coordinate with sarnold how to escalate
14:57 <cpaelzer> just saying as I assume this might be part of that whole transition you worked on
14:58 <jamespage> oddly they are not directly linked
14:58 <cpaelzer> wow
14:58 <jamespage> rpds-py does replace a pydantic dep
14:58 <cpaelzer> then sorry for connecting the wrong dots
14:59 <cpaelzer> thanks, good to know
14:59 <jamespage> but the release of pydantic was due to inflect dropping it
14:59 <jamespage> I had it in my head that was as well but digging about today its not
14:59 <cpaelzer> ok
14:59 <cpaelzer> welll
14:59 <cpaelzer> that means it is time for
14:59 <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
15:00 <sarnold> none here
15:00 <cpaelzer> neither from me other than time pressure
15:00 <cpaelzer> :-)
15:00 <slyon> cpaelzer: wrt rustc-1.76: rmadison tells me:
15:00 <slyon> rustc-1.76 | 1.76.0+dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1            | oracular                | source
15:00 <slyon> rustc-1.76 | 1.76.0+dfsg0ubuntu1-0ubuntu1            | oracular/universe       | amd64, arm64, armhf, ppc64el, riscv64, s390x
15:00 <sarnold> 360s oy vey
15:00 <slyon> source still seems to be in main, can you do something about it?
15:00 <cpaelzer> I can slyon
15:00 <slyon> thx, nothing else from my side :)
15:03 <cpaelzer> done slyon
15:03 <cpaelzer> ok that is all
15:03 <cpaelzer> see you all
15:03 <cpaelzer> thanks!
15:03 <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
15:03 <cpaelzer> #endmeeting