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15:03 <bdmurray> #topic Status Updates
15:03 <bdmurray> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-08-01/46683
15:03 <bdmurray> Let's take a few minutes to review the status updates
15:05 <bdmurray> vowpal-wabbit sounds like something petname would produce
15:06 <waveform> it's a killllerrrr!
15:06 <bdrung> ogra_, regarding argcomplete - does that have autopkgtests that would detect those incompatibilities?
15:07 <mateus-morais> TIL petname
15:08 <bdrung> sorry, i meant ogayot (not ogra_)
15:08 <ogayot> bdrung: checking
15:08 * bdrung I am too tired.
15:09 <bdmurray> Has everybody finished reading?
15:09 <bdrung> no
15:10 <ogayot> argcomplete has an autopkgtest test suite and it's red on all arches/versions
15:10 <ogayot> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/python-argcomplete
15:11 <ogayot> except armhf for some reason
15:11 <bdrung> so that should be fixed in oracular and inclueded in the SRU
15:11 <bdrung> waveform, what is "FIT"?
15:12 <waveform> Flat Image Tree
15:12 <waveform> https://docs.u-boot.org/en/latest/usage/fit/index.html
15:12 <ogayot> bdrung: good point, I'll give it a close look
15:13 <bdmurray> Okay, whose ready to look at bugs!
15:14 <bdmurray> #topic Release incoming bugs
15:14 <bdmurray> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-oo-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:14 <bdmurray> and its empty \o/
15:15 <bdmurray> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:15 <bdmurray> bug 2074302
15:16 <bdmurray> Is systemd the right package for this?
15:16 <enr0n> Based on a quick look, I don't think so
15:17 <bdmurray> What do you think would be more appropriate?
15:19 <bdrung> dmesg has: [  248.323880] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bus: MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 6013d4 [ PRIVRING ]
15:20 <bdmurray> We think it's likely kernel related but they are running an older kernel so should update first.
15:20 <bdmurray> bug 2073372
15:21 <bdmurray> well let's foundations-todo that bug and import it to jira
15:22 <bdmurray> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs
15:22 <bdmurray> nothing for us there
15:23 <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report
15:23 <bdmurray> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs
15:23 <dviererbe> Wait I would like to talk about bug 1474519
15:24 <dviererbe> can I set it to Won't fix for trusty
15:25 <enr0n> ravikant_: didn't you tag a u-r-u bug for rls-incoming:
15:25 <enr0n> ?
15:26 <ravikant_> I did https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/2058648
15:26 <ravikant_> I think we forgot to tag this fundations-todo
15:27 <enr0n> So I am unsure how big the impact is here
15:27 <enr0n> I tested a bionic -> focal -> jammy upgrade, and I got usrmerge installed
15:29 <bdmurray> let's save this for when julian returns so we can get his input
15:30 <enr0n> sounds good to me
15:30 <bdmurray> mwhudson: had pyopenssl but maybe somebody else is interested?
15:31 <bdmurray> cpete: has apport
15:32 <bdmurray> andersson123: pyopenssl
15:34 <bdmurray> dviererbe: rust-defaults
15:34 <dviererbe> okay
15:35 <bdmurray> uralt has bpftrace iirc
15:35 <bdmurray> doko: python3.12
15:35 <bdmurray> bdrung: initramfs-tools
15:36 <bdrung> ack
15:36 <bdmurray> pkgconf looks like the baseline was reset
15:37 <bdmurray> or it might be with ahasenack
15:38 <bdmurray> bdmurray: has python3-defaults
15:38 <ahasenack> I was working on a pkgconf fix yesterday
15:38 <ahasenack> (today sru shift)
15:38 <ahasenack> went as far as creating ppas with the builds and was about to test dep8
15:39 <ahasenack> https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/pkgconf/+git/pkgconf/+ref/oracular-pkgconf-gcc14 is what I ahve
15:39 <ahasenack> https://git.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/pkgconf/commit/?id=9716483fa3fffad8b789124e98dd6064d12bd929 being the patch I was about to test
15:39 <bdmurray> ahasenack: do you plan on returing to it tomorrow?
15:39 <ahasenack> yes
15:40 <bdmurray> okay, we'll leave it with you then
15:40 <ahasenack> k
15:40 <bdmurray> cpete: boost and cmake
15:41 <bdmurray> vpa1977: boost and cmake as cpete has apport
15:42 <bdmurray> I retried the nvme-cli build
15:42 <bdmurray> waveform: libxs-parse-keyword-perl
15:43 <bdmurray> xypron: livecd-rootfs
15:43 <bdmurray> ravikant_: sbuild
15:44 <ravikant_> ack
15:44 <bdmurray> juliank: apt
15:44 <bdmurray> I'm retrying the armhf build of libgcrypt
15:45 <bdmurray> mateus-morais: python-docutils
15:45 <mateus-morais> bdmurray ack
15:45 <bdmurray> tobhe: adduser
15:45 <tobhe> ack
15:45 <bdmurray> which is tied in with shadow
15:45 <bdmurray> and that's that
15:46 <bdmurray> #topic AOB
15:46 <enr0n> bdmurray: about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/2043820
15:46 <enr0n> The problem is that systemd-resolved is it's own binary package after Jammy
15:47 <enr0n> And while it will be installed during the upgrade, it is not yet installed at the time that the preinst runs for thunderbird et al (which have the snap store connectivity check)
15:48 <enr0n> My thought is to do quick SRUs adding Pre-Depends: systemd-resolved to the "deb to snap" transitional packages
15:48 <enr0n> E.g. firefox, thunderbird, chromium-browser (are there others?)
15:49 <enr0n> This would ensure that systemd-resolved is back at the time those packages do their connectivity check
15:49 <bdmurray> What about a PostUpgradeInstall section in distupgrade.cfg?
15:49 <enr0n> That's way too late
15:50 <enr0n> The problem is not that systemd-resolved won't get installed at all during the upgrade. It's just that the ordering is something like:
15:50 <enr0n> 1. unpack new systemd (meaning systemd-resolved goes away)
15:50 <bdmurray> The documentation says "action right after the upgrade was calculated in the cache"
15:50 <enr0n> 2. unpack e.g thunderbird.
15:51 <enr0n> (meaning snap store check)
15:51 <enr0n> 3. unpack systemd-resolved
15:51 <enr0n> bdmurray: hm, well it only *marks* for install at that stage IIUC, it does not actually perform it
15:51 <enr0n> and NB that we already have PostUpgradeInstall=systemd-resolved in place for upgrades from Jammy to Noble
15:52 <bdmurray> okay
15:54 <bdmurray> Well if its not working then lets go with the alternate solution.
15:55 <bdmurray> Anything else?
15:55 <cpete> I've started trying to get statistics on publishing delays in my PPAs after a ~3 hour cycle yesterday
15:55 <cpete> https://gist.github.com/Chris-Peterson444/a477f5b7356007caf2653079eb183635
15:57 <bdmurray> I'd look at seeded snaps via the manifests to figure out which transitional packages to update
15:57 <ravikant_> thanks cpete, I'll use the script on my next ppa build
15:58 <bdmurray> #endmeeting