15:02 <bdmurray> #startmeeting 15:02 <meetingology> Meeting started at 15:02:12 UTC. The chair is bdmurray. Information about MeetBot at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology 15:02 <meetingology> Available commands: action, commands, idea, info, link, nick 15:03 <bdmurray> #topic Status Updates 15:03 <bdmurray> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/foundations-team-updates-thursday-2024-08-01/46683 15:03 <bdmurray> Let's take a few minutes to review the status updates 15:05 <bdmurray> vowpal-wabbit sounds like something petname would produce 15:06 <waveform> it's a killllerrrr! 15:06 <bdrung> ogra_, regarding argcomplete - does that have autopkgtests that would detect those incompatibilities? 15:07 <mateus-morais> TIL petname 15:08 <bdrung> sorry, i meant ogayot (not ogra_) 15:08 <ogayot> bdrung: checking 15:08 * bdrung I am too tired. 15:09 <bdmurray> Has everybody finished reading? 15:09 <bdrung> no 15:10 <ogayot> argcomplete has an autopkgtest test suite and it's red on all arches/versions 15:10 <ogayot> https://autopkgtest.ubuntu.com/packages/python-argcomplete 15:11 <ogayot> except armhf for some reason 15:11 <bdrung> so that should be fixed in oracular and inclueded in the SRU 15:11 <bdrung> waveform, what is "FIT"? 15:12 <waveform> Flat Image Tree 15:12 <waveform> https://docs.u-boot.org/en/latest/usage/fit/index.html 15:12 <ogayot> bdrung: good point, I'll give it a close look 15:13 <bdmurray> Okay, whose ready to look at bugs! 15:14 <bdmurray> #topic Release incoming bugs 15:14 <bdmurray> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-oo-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:14 <bdmurray> and its empty \o/ 15:15 <bdmurray> #link http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-nn-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:15 <bdmurray> bug 2074302 15:16 <bdmurray> Is systemd the right package for this? 15:16 <enr0n> Based on a quick look, I don't think so 15:17 <bdmurray> What do you think would be more appropriate? 15:19 <bdrung> dmesg has: [ 248.323880] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bus: MMIO read of 00000000 FAULT at 6013d4 [ PRIVRING ] 15:20 <bdmurray> We think it's likely kernel related but they are running an older kernel so should update first. 15:20 <bdmurray> bug 2073372 15:21 <bdmurray> well let's foundations-todo that bug and import it to jira 15:22 <bdmurray> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-jj-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs 15:22 <bdmurray> nothing for us there 15:23 <bdmurray> #topic Team proposed-migration report 15:23 <bdmurray> #link https://ubuntu-archive-team.ubuntu.com/proposed-migration/update_excuses_by_team.html#foundations-bugs 15:23 <dviererbe> Wait I would like to talk about bug 1474519 15:24 <dviererbe> can I set it to Won't fix for trusty 15:25 <enr0n> ravikant_: didn't you tag a u-r-u bug for rls-incoming: 15:25 <enr0n> ? 15:26 <ravikant_> I did https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glibc/+bug/2058648 15:26 <ravikant_> I think we forgot to tag this fundations-todo 15:27 <enr0n> So I am unsure how big the impact is here 15:27 <enr0n> I tested a bionic -> focal -> jammy upgrade, and I got usrmerge installed 15:29 <bdmurray> let's save this for when julian returns so we can get his input 15:30 <enr0n> sounds good to me 15:30 <bdmurray> mwhudson: had pyopenssl but maybe somebody else is interested? 15:31 <bdmurray> cpete: has apport 15:32 <bdmurray> andersson123: pyopenssl 15:34 <bdmurray> dviererbe: rust-defaults 15:34 <dviererbe> okay 15:35 <bdmurray> uralt has bpftrace iirc 15:35 <bdmurray> doko: python3.12 15:35 <bdmurray> bdrung: initramfs-tools 15:36 <bdrung> ack 15:36 <bdmurray> pkgconf looks like the baseline was reset 15:37 <bdmurray> or it might be with ahasenack 15:38 <bdmurray> bdmurray: has python3-defaults 15:38 <ahasenack> I was working on a pkgconf fix yesterday 15:38 <ahasenack> (today sru shift) 15:38 <ahasenack> went as far as creating ppas with the builds and was about to test dep8 15:39 <ahasenack> https://code.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/pkgconf/+git/pkgconf/+ref/oracular-pkgconf-gcc14 is what I ahve 15:39 <ahasenack> https://git.launchpad.net/~ahasenack/ubuntu/+source/pkgconf/commit/?id=9716483fa3fffad8b789124e98dd6064d12bd929 being the patch I was about to test 15:39 <bdmurray> ahasenack: do you plan on returing to it tomorrow? 15:39 <ahasenack> yes 15:40 <bdmurray> okay, we'll leave it with you then 15:40 <ahasenack> k 15:40 <bdmurray> cpete: boost and cmake 15:41 <bdmurray> vpa1977: boost and cmake as cpete has apport 15:42 <bdmurray> I retried the nvme-cli build 15:42 <bdmurray> waveform: libxs-parse-keyword-perl 15:43 <bdmurray> xypron: livecd-rootfs 15:43 <bdmurray> ravikant_: sbuild 15:44 <ravikant_> ack 15:44 <bdmurray> juliank: apt 15:44 <bdmurray> I'm retrying the armhf build of libgcrypt 15:45 <bdmurray> mateus-morais: python-docutils 15:45 <mateus-morais> bdmurray ack 15:45 <bdmurray> tobhe: adduser 15:45 <tobhe> ack 15:45 <bdmurray> which is tied in with shadow 15:45 <bdmurray> and that's that 15:46 <bdmurray> #topic AOB 15:46 <enr0n> bdmurray: about https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/snapd/+bug/2043820 15:46 <enr0n> The problem is that systemd-resolved is it's own binary package after Jammy 15:47 <enr0n> And while it will be installed during the upgrade, it is not yet installed at the time that the preinst runs for thunderbird et al (which have the snap store connectivity check) 15:48 <enr0n> My thought is to do quick SRUs adding Pre-Depends: systemd-resolved to the "deb to snap" transitional packages 15:48 <enr0n> E.g. firefox, thunderbird, chromium-browser (are there others?) 15:49 <enr0n> This would ensure that systemd-resolved is back at the time those packages do their connectivity check 15:49 <bdmurray> What about a PostUpgradeInstall section in distupgrade.cfg? 15:49 <enr0n> That's way too late 15:50 <enr0n> The problem is not that systemd-resolved won't get installed at all during the upgrade. It's just that the ordering is something like: 15:50 <enr0n> 1. unpack new systemd (meaning systemd-resolved goes away) 15:50 <bdmurray> The documentation says "action right after the upgrade was calculated in the cache" 15:50 <enr0n> 2. unpack e.g thunderbird. 15:51 <enr0n> (meaning snap store check) 15:51 <enr0n> 3. unpack systemd-resolved 15:51 <enr0n> bdmurray: hm, well it only *marks* for install at that stage IIUC, it does not actually perform it 15:51 <enr0n> and NB that we already have PostUpgradeInstall=systemd-resolved in place for upgrades from Jammy to Noble 15:52 <bdmurray> okay 15:54 <bdmurray> Well if its not working then lets go with the alternate solution. 15:55 <bdmurray> Anything else? 15:55 <cpete> I've started trying to get statistics on publishing delays in my PPAs after a ~3 hour cycle yesterday 15:55 <cpete> https://gist.github.com/Chris-Peterson444/a477f5b7356007caf2653079eb183635 15:57 <bdmurray> I'd look at seeded snaps via the manifests to figure out which transitional packages to update 15:57 <ravikant_> thanks cpete, I'll use the script on my next ppa build 15:58 <bdmurray> #endmeeting